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Affair Part 5 - fab phee kicks arse wearing her skinny jeans

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OpheliaRose · 19/05/2015 21:02

Many you will have read my threads 1 2 3 4

A month ago I discovered my Husband had been having an affair with a girl from his work. I thought it was one of the most painful moments of my life but the subsequent day where far more painful when the full extent of his betrayal was exposed to me and he has shown no remorse or sorrow over the loss of our marriage in fact he has left me for the OW

I have started divorce procedures on the grounds of adultery each day is proving a struggle but I am getting through it with the help of all of you.

All I want when this is over is for me and my Twins to be happy. We all deserve so much better than him

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BathtimeFunkster · 04/06/2015 08:05

He talked about how the support she gives him is like nothing he's ever had before he said it's all selfless and she is just always happy for him.

Grin

Hahahahaha!!!

They're still dating!

They have no joint adult responsibilities and no life together.

It's pretty easy to be always happy for someone who only split up with his wife a matter of weeks ago.

Poor cow, though. He's planning to remain a selfish prick, he just thinks she will better cater to his childish selfishness than you did.

AccordingtoMe · 04/06/2015 08:08

"Wait until she is juggling twins and doing up a house while he is swanning off"

^^This

"It's easy to be wonderful and supportive and 'selfless' before real life catches up"

^^and this

Phee, she has caught her "prize" she is going to do everything in her power to maintain it right now, hence she is seemingly so bloody wonderful in his entitled opinion.

What struck me about your last post was it was all about him, she is always so happy FOR HIM, the support she GIVES HIM is like nothing he has ever had before.

She will wake up soon enough when she starts to wonder what she is getting out this. Ultimately he is not bringing much to the table is he? Especially if you get the house and ongoing maintenance, for the next 15/16 years.

He will become a cock lodger, in her house.

Dumdedumdedum · 04/06/2015 08:13

The little shit is just trying to justify his own unjustifiable behaviour by transferring the blame to you. Rather than seeking solace in a stationery cupboard with WF, he should have been discussing any concerns he had about your marriage with you, so that you could work together to make it better. Please don't take what he said about you to heart. I know it's difficult.
I am so furious on your behalf, I can't say any more.
FlowersFlowersFlowersFlowersFlowersFlowers

thornyhousewife · 04/06/2015 08:17

Phee, you're amazing and if I ever find myself in your situation I hope I have one once of the strength you have.

However, is there any possible way you can tell him to shove the house up his arse?

Rosieliveson · 04/06/2015 08:18

Ridiculous! He can't compare a 12 year marriage and partnership with it's inevitable ups and downs to a relationship that's new and only committed in so far as they're spending time together and hoping to take things further in the future.
I agree, he's justifying and normalising. He's a prize fool!
Try not to take it to heart Phee. He is on cloud cuckoo at the moment!

laurierf · 04/06/2015 08:21

is there any possible way you can tell him to shove the house up his arse?

WHY would she do that???!!!

There's only one petulant, irrational, impulsive, selfish arse in the marriage, and it's not Phee.

vertigo · 04/06/2015 08:23

It's kids bluster only Phee. Hard but do not absorb that stuff. AS put by bathtie and Ledkr.

And anyway - how can she be heard to be so selfless with a gob full of cock. There's a name for that - actually he knows it too - WF!

Take care today.

thornyhousewife · 04/06/2015 08:25

Laurierf - it was only a suggestion, fucking hell. Sorry phee.

ClareAbshire · 04/06/2015 08:38

Another one saying take everything he says about her with a huge pinch of salt. How can he even know what she's like at this point? And frankly, I'm embarrassed for him that he said out loud in front of you and the mediator that "she's just so happy for me" etc. what a childish and selfish response. Dickhead.

laurierf · 04/06/2015 08:40

thorny - I'm angry with him, not you. Phee needs security sorted for her and the children asap before he changes his mind. The way he's talking about WF shows he hasn't got a clue about reality right now and that's very likely to come crashing down - Phee needs to make sure she and the children are safe from the fallout.

SignoraStronza · 04/06/2015 08:40

What a nasty piece of work. You know full well it isn't true and that he's flailing around and lashing out in an attempt to justify his despicable behaviour. I'll second what everyone else had said. The financial agreement should be the most urgent issue to sort out. Quickly, before he's cocklodging in wf's house.

You know full well that if he moves into HER house, it will start to grate on her little by little. Another reason to get the maintenance agreement set in stone, bwfore he needs to sort himself out with another mortgage.

Shut him down every time he tries to harp on about ow this and ow that - and yibber about how selfless she is. State that you are here to discuss the practical details of the divorce and have no interest in how he feels any more.

You've done brilliantly and must feel absolutely wrung out.

Rosieliveson · 04/06/2015 09:21

Also, what on earth can she possibly be happy for him about?? They haven't actually experienced anything together other than him ending his marriage for their affair. Let's see how things pan out once actual life gets going!

Wristy · 04/06/2015 09:32

She's not selfless Phee, she's stupid or at the very best extremely naive.

She would risk her job, the job that keeps her own child housed, clothed and fed, in order to give a married colleague a blowjob at the office.

I agree with the other posters, it's easy to be supportive of a partner you don't live with. When he's swanning off to wherever and leaving her to clean up after him (that will be his expectation since it's what you did) while she tries to work too, then he'll see how supportive she really is. IMO blowjobs don't really count as 'support'.

Take the house, redecorate, make it the home you want it to be. All the things you had to compromise on you won't have to anymore. Erase him if you want, you can. Make it a haven for you and your beautiful boys.

MissPronounced · 04/06/2015 09:38

Ophelia, take the house and don't look back. You deserve that security for you and your twins.

PrimalLass · 04/06/2015 09:43

Grab the house now. He will probably back-track hugely on that one.

MerryMarigold · 04/06/2015 09:44

Yes, I think he's acting out of guilt, bit also a little bit from the 'hysteria' of his relationship with OW. Is easy to be kind and generous when you're high. That is why I agree to get it sorted ASAP. As soon as problems hit for them, I don't think he'll feel so generous. He's clearly highly motivated by feelings so best strike while the iron's hot. It's great you don't need to worry about the house and a mortgage, adhd you do definitely deserve it. Xxx

bjrce · 04/06/2015 09:48

Everything she does is fabulous, everything you did was bad.

That's the way he is rationalizing everything in his head, its that simple!
He is completely smitten with her. Its very very early days for them. Right now its all sunshine and lollipops!. No relationship can withstand this pace long term.

If there was just one word of advice I would give you, is to not discuss her in any manner with him going forward, and don't allow him to do it. It will never do you any good and will just continue to crush your self-esteem. You can't let him continue with this shit, you know he wants to be with her, you don't need to hear any more about her.
I guarantee no-one else at work has to listen to this shit.( quote that to him next time he starts up). Also, why does he have to go on about her so much to you. Tell him to change the record. Enough!

MagicalMrsMistoffelees · 04/06/2015 09:58

Your husband's delusions, revealed during mediation, have spurred me to my first ever post on Mumsnet! You must not allow his ridiculous assertions that she is so supportive and wonderful whilst you were not to get to you as they are based on a fantasy!

OF COURSE she is being everything he ever dreamed of right now - she is still competing for him and knows she needs to secure outright victory before allowing any hint of reality into their relationship. She is currently projecting the most idealised version of herself possible to make sure she keeps him. So it'll be all, 'you're amazing, you're a brilliant dad, you can do anything you want, you are never wrong,' which is almost as addictive to idiots like him as blow jobs in stationery cupboards.

This sort of heightened regard for each other is normal in the first flush of any new romantic relationship but is particularly strong here because she is working hard to get her 'prize'.

So he thinks she's the bees' knees because she is constantly and expertly massaging his ego. Compared to the real, everyday, ordinary family life (which I think is pretty awesome actually) that he's had with you, it's easy for men like him to compare and have you come up short. Arse.

But, as in any relationship, it can't last, she will not be able to keep it up. Ultimately the hoovering needs doing and bills need paying and the children get ill. Suddenly it's not all trips to the pub after work, pathetic selfies on Facebook, parading her at weddings and parties (in front of people who are actually embarrassed for them), 'ooh, you're so amazing!', 'ooh you are too kissy, kissy,' - suddenly it's REAL LIFE. The grass isn't greener. She's not giving him on-demand blow jobs. She's not telling him how fab and wonderful he is. Then he starts to think, 'shit, what have I done?! My lovely wife, all our history is destroyed. My poor children, what have I done to them. Our beautiful home- I've nowhere to live except this lonely flat. Everyone at work thinks I'm a tit. Etc. etc.'

But Phee I PROMISE - you will be so far over him by then. You will have the children, the house, a new job, perhaps even a new partner. He will be gutted when it hits him. He will realise how selfish and pathetic he's been and for what? A fantasy. Well ha bloody ha on him.

I am certain their relationship won't last because it is not based on reality. If he'd sat there in mediation and said, 'WF and I have our ups and downs and we're struggling with what we've done so we're going to live separately for as long as needed and take our time before making anything more permanent out of respect for Phee and the sake of our children,' or something like that you'd think he might have gone into it eyes wide open and they might have a chance. But everything he says and does indicates it's all one big dream fairy tale bubble that will pop at some point.

Keep going as you are; soon it will feel better, I promise.

DonkeysDontRideBicycles · 04/06/2015 10:24

Another lurking supporter here. Flowers

It would be laughable if he weren't trampling all over your heart, he is such a walking cliché. Unrepentant and trashing the past to make it sound like OW is a prize. But if they do plan to get married, well obviously that wipes the slate clean and excuses all the seedy sneaking around beforehand, (NOT).

You are doing so well, it's a lot to take in and all in a relatively short space of time.

paddymcgintysmum · 04/06/2015 10:29

He's not offering the house through guilt. I doubt that he feels any guilt.
He wants off the mortgage so he can buy jointly with WF.
Obviously speak to your solicitor but be quick, because if it turns sour between them he'll withdraw the offer as he'll want somewhere to live and alone in a flat would not be him at all.
I visualise him like a headless chicken running around trying to please her while making all sorts of promises, and that includes a big house.

Vivacia · 04/06/2015 10:35

It's the wank fodder comment that suggests to me he's re-writing history.

vertigo · 04/06/2015 10:58

Remember Phee, hers is the ONLY voice saying what he has done is OK. Ergo she is the wonderful voice of reason. NO ONE else is thinking he's done a good thing.

Have you contacted your solicitor with regard to getting house in your name? Concentrate on some immediate practicalities, if two small Dcs let you have a sec. Worth having your M or DB round to give you a couple of hours on the internet or phone.

It's my personal experience and research backs it that the "guilt" element of making financial decisions is a very small window.

Hope sunny (weather) where you are. Also, be mindful, in this horrid time, of little pleasing things with DTS especially. A smile, sniff in the top of their heads smell. That's real. And not changing.

IrianofWay · 04/06/2015 11:42

Well done ophelia xx That must have been impossibly hard but you got through it will flying colours.

BessieBumptious · 04/06/2015 12:05

If you take only ONE piece of advice from this thread, let it be 'get the house sorted now'. The heartbreak of all this aside, this 'offer' is what will give you peace of mind and security for the rest of your life.

You are still young, and you can still sort out a pension for yourself (although you can still have a go at getting half his, but that probably won't happen). Whatever you thought you could afford for a mortgage, put that into a pension - doesn't matter if it's not huge, at least it's something. And don't forget that you will be able to work full time at some point, when the DTs are older thereby enabling you even further to fill that pension pot.

OpheliaRose · 04/06/2015 12:11

I don't know if we doing it out of guilt.

He could afford to pay off the mortgage without his parents help but would wipe out all his inheritance and savings so my initial thoughts are that he plans to pay off mortgage using their help so that he is able to have money left for a deposite on a new place with OW. I know her place isn't big enough for H her and 3 kids. Obviously I don't know the ins and outs of we finances bar what H used to tell me but he's now very well paid and she's reasonably well paid and has inheritance money too ( one of her parents died recently) so I'd assume he wants all the cash he an get for a new place Sad

At the mediation he said if I wanted the house I shouldn't him know and he will start the process roiling

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