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DP- is he tight or am I just a princess?

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CotswoldQueen · 13/05/2015 12:18

I have been with my DP for 2 years, we have a great relationship, I fancy him rotten, he is kind and caring, we get on great and he DOES make me really happy. I don’t know whether I’m just being a princess, trying to self-sabotage or what but sometimes it just seems like….well I don’t really know.

I guess I could start by saying that my long term ex was fabulous, we were together for 6 years, he was everything my current DP is but also generous and I was never in any doubt that he absolutely adored me and was my no 1 fan. Unfortunately, for me, the relationship just wasn’t what I wanted, I felt like we’d become more like best friends, I just didn’t want him sexually anymore, I absolutely loved the bones of him, but I was no longer in love with him so I ended it.

When I say he was generous, he would sometimes buy me random, thoughtful presents just because he thought I’d like them. He would always insist on paying when we went out and I would literally have to put the cash for my half into his jacket pocket etc when he wasn’t looking. He would love to celebrate our anniversaries, birthdays etc and would book surprise weekends away or take me out to dinner.

Don’t get me wrong, because he was generous to me, I wanted to be generous to him too and was, I used to spoil him on his birthday and on our anniversary’s etc. It was just nice, I know it’s materialistic but we both just enjoyed treating each other.

Cut to current DP, he has a very good, professional job, earns a lot of money and has a lot of disposable income. He, however, is a saver not a spender. He kinda counts every penny and just, I don’t know, I can’t really explain it but it’s like he resents spending anything on me?

We don’t live together, he has his own (large house) and I currently rent a cottage off a family friend. After paying for my rent, bills and paying off some debts and the animals, I don’t have a vast amount left over each month, enough to have a couple of nights out a month etc but not loads.

Whenever we go out for dinner, it always has to be split, down to the last penny. If I can’t afford to pay half then we (generally, there have been a couple of exceptions) don’t go. There is hardly ever an offer of ‘let’s go out to dinner tonight, I’m paying.’

I stay at his 3, occasionally 4 nights a week, but on the majority of those evenings I bring dinner for us both and wine for myself if drinking it. I clean his house (he is generally tidy but a typical man and can be a bit messy) help to look after his 2 dogs.

The other evening he made a hinting comment about how much toilet roll is being used lately with the 2 of us there, so I said I’d bring some round next time I’m there. A few weeks ago he was going to Tesco and I asked him if he could pick me up some make up remover wipes and deodorant as I had ran out of both, he did. They came to a total of £4.90 and he reminded me about that £4.90 within about 15 mins after getting back, I was going to give him the money FGS but it’s £4, I’m sure he’s not going to go bankrupt if he doesn’t get it within the hour.

I will often pay for things if we go out and he’ll say ‘I’ll transfer you half when we get back.’ And I say ‘It’s fine, it’s only £10 FGS’ The other week we went to the cinema, there was a massive que and I said ‘I’ll get the tickets, why don’t you get in the que for the popcorn.’ He said ‘No it’s fine, the film doesn’t start for another 15 mins yet, we’ve got plenty of time’ So, we finally get to the front and it’s so awkward as before I can say anything he goes ‘Ticket for one please to see XXX.’ The cashier looked really embarrassed, looked at us both and repeated ‘Just the one ticket?’ to which I jumped in before he could say anything and said ‘YES and one for me please too after he’s paid for his.’ We then went to the que for food, I stood in front of him and said ‘I’m going to get a medium, mixed popcorn.’ He then said ‘So how much is that, £3.56, I’ll give you the £1.78 when we get home.’ I had had enough at this point as the couple stood behind us (same couple that had stood behind for the tickets too) I could tell were aghast and snapped IT’S FINE, I CAN TREAT YOU TO SOME BLUMMIN POPCORN!! He looked a bit sheepish but said no, I owe you it, I’ll pay half, which he did!

We had a talk when we got home that night as he could tell I was annoyed, I said we are in a relationship, I do not want to quibble over £1.78 etc, and count every penny, it’s ridiculous and embarrassing. He said okay, let’s take it in turns to pay for things. Fine, but it really is mostly rigid with that and he even keeps a ‘diary’ of who has paid what, it just feel so…… unromantic?? I don’t mind blummin paying for him and treating him to things because I love him, I don’t expect half back etc or for him to rigidly ensure he treats me the next time.

The thing is, although he’s careful with his money he will OCCASIONALLY be generous with me, i.e get the bill if we go out, or the cinema tickets etc but it will be only be occasionally. He is generous to other people in his life, we had his brother and his wife down a few weeks ago and when they arrived on the Friday evening, he took us all out for a 3 course dinner and paid for the lot, same when his parents and friends have visited, in fact, he is pretty generous with his family and friends? He gave his brother a cheque for £8k when they were last down, to put into his two nephew’s trust funds. I felt an enormous rush of love for him when he did this, it was such a lovely, lovely thing to do.

He also went out and spent £30k on a boat a few weeks ago, so it’s really not like he doesn’t like spending money. He definitely doesn’t mind spending on his hobbies etc, he’s just not into frivolous spending I guess but also, doesn’t yet, seem to want to be generous when it comes to me?

Despite all said above, he is unbelievably kind, caring, supportive, good and generous in bed. He looks after me when I am ill, washes and cleans my car for me randomly when I’m not expecting it, has spent all day when I was on a girls day time cocktail/shopping trip fixing my car and the sole of a boot of mine that had broken, he cooks me dinner, brings me tea and toast in the morning at the weekends, gives me lifts if I need them, supports me in my hobby, is lovely to my friends and family. He is pretty perfect, but, for some reason I just don’t feel comfortable with him re money.

I am aware this post makes me seem like a mercenary gold digger, I promise you I’m not. I really do, I think I have just been really lucky with my ex in that he was an all-round nice guy and generous to boot. I have now met another all-round nice guy but he just tirelessly counts and records every penny when it comes to us and our relationship and I am starting to wonder whether this will continue (given that he is generous with his friends and family) and if so, whether it is a deal breaker for me. He has been vocal about wanting kids and we have talked about the future, I have absolutely no doubt that he would be generous with his children and they would want for nothing…but what about the mother of his children? We haven’t moved in together yet, again he’s hinted but at the moment I am failing to see how it would work, I have cheap rent where I am at the moment, if he expected me to pay half of everything, I would have about £100 a month leftover to pay for things like haircuts, nights out, clothes etc. I would struggle. I would end up resenting him.

OP posts:
NameChange30 · 18/05/2015 12:16

Thanks for the update OP. Sounds like things might not be quite so bad as they seemed. Do talk to him about it, I'm sure being open and honest about your feelings and expectations will help.

Gralick · 18/05/2015 12:24

That sounds cautiously optimistic! I think the talk's still in order. Glad you had a good weekend :)

Jan45 · 18/05/2015 12:30

Well that's a turnaround, a good one mind you.

HelenaDove · 18/05/2015 15:46

Id still be careful OP Ive often seen posts on here from other MNers who have confronted their partners about scathing or sometimes abusive comments they have made and they have been told "oh i was only joking"

There is also the fact he is still keen to hang the "gold digger" label on a woman. That talk still needs to be had.

HelenaDove · 18/05/2015 16:14

"test"

When i click on some threads they disappear and im just seeing the word "posts" in bold. Its also just happened when i tried to post on a thread.

BuggersMuddle · 18/05/2015 16:56

I would agree that you absolutely do still need to have the conversation.

I can't quite square the sudden move to generosity & the 'just joking' with the £1.78...

If he's being clueless rather than malicious, you still need to have a chat about the way his 'counting the pennies' attitude makes you feel. He may be used to splitting everything absolutely fairly and be willing to be generous, but I would still be mortified if my DP of two years bought a single cinema ticket while I was standing next to him.

brusselsproutwarning · 18/05/2015 20:17

All sounds good, but still have that awkward chat though op.

tipsytrifle · 18/05/2015 21:03

And let's not forget the single ticket moment. He "forgot" the toilet roll saga? Never mentioned "oh you didn't bring my free dinner"?

tipsytrifle · 18/05/2015 21:06

Perhaps I'm just a tad cynical ...

dodecathlon · 18/05/2015 21:07

Sorry for the total mini-derailment, but Amelie,

Gralick - depends if OP likes Indian guys. ;)

? What has his Indian-ness got to do with his attractiveness, even if the whole exchange is tongue in cheek?

Lweji · 18/05/2015 21:18

he laughed and said he was only joking, that thanks but me providing toilet roll wasn’t necessary.

"necessary"?

He clearly realised he had gone over the top and back tracked. But I'd have been mortified if anyone had felt the need to bring toilet paper to my home at any point. He said it was not "necessary". What is "necessary", then?

The same about dinner. You have in a way confronted him, so he is offering what he can now to keep you on track. I suspect also the same about the lovely and hectic weekend. He could see the conversation coming and shut you up, even making you doubt yourself.

Gralick · 18/05/2015 21:29

Well, CotswoldQueen, I do rather suspect you're being 'hoovered'. Time will tell. But one way to handle being hoovered is to enjoy it! Have your talk; set up more senxible boundaries. I hope a reasonably long period of the relationship you hoped for follows. In fact, I hope it follows permanently! But, if it doesn't ... well, you have your thread here for grounding, should things start to feel uncomfortable.

Meanwhile, have a good time :)

AmelieinOz · 18/05/2015 22:28

dodecathion - my friend is Indian. People have different preferences. I set him up with a Polish friend once and she said she isn't attracted to Indian guys. It's just her preference.

RandomMess · 18/05/2015 22:38

I think have the chat but do it in a more "you clearly have more disposable income than me, how would you feel if we discussed having a monthly kitty for going out and it's up to you if you want to splurge on ay extras above and beyond"

I think it's bringing up the issue and offering a suggestion that could be a solution IYSWIM?

Glad you had a good weekend and that he wasn't be serious about the loo roll!

Twinklestein · 18/05/2015 22:40

I find Indian men beautiful, but I'm married...

Ime racism is more acceptable in Poland than it is here.

Which has nothing to do with the OP's predicament.

Does anyone else think he offered to take her to a restaurant because she owned him over the loo roll?

AmelieinOz · 18/05/2015 22:51

Ok dear thread -

I meant people have different preferences when it comes to whom they find attractive. I was not implying that one race is superior or inferior to another, it's just about personal preference. If that came out as racist, I apologise.

Anyway, OP - sorry again for the threadjack. He seems to be changing, which is a good thing, I hope that's permanent. But yes, you still need to have that talk. :)

katrinefedora · 18/05/2015 23:08

Yeah, I agree *Twinklestein"

a lot of passive-aggressive people do this, they push and push and then go "ha ha I was only joking what are YOU like silly I'm just Mr Normal and jovial, can't you take a joke?". It's gaslighting.

I hope I'm wrong but I suspect as soon as OP lets her guard down he'll be at it again. And who wants to be "on guard" in an intimate relationship, when you should be able to be relaxed and trust the other to have yr best interests at heart?

Twinklestein · 18/05/2015 23:20

It wasn't any reflection on you Amelie, but your friend.

If someone rules out a whole bunch of men on the basis of their ethnicity, without getting to know them as individuals - that kinda is racism.

Anyway, back to Scrooge...

HelenaDove · 18/05/2015 23:33

Random i think he WAS serious about the loo roll.

Agree with katrine. Its gaslighting.

He will probably be on "best behaviour" for a few weeks then revert back to type.
OP will be uncomfortable again ...maybe bring up the subject and he will use the same tactics.

And if the relationship ends because of this he will tell the next woman that his last TWO girlfriends were gold diggers.

AgathaChristie01 · 18/05/2015 23:51

I agree with other posters. I doubt the 'only joking'. All the best OP , hope that things work out. Please don't ignore the signs.

springydaffs · 18/05/2015 23:58

Go and get ready and we'll go?

Did you wear your short socks and hold his hand to cross the road?

You may think I'm being picky, op - maybe I am - I just can't like this £30k/1.78 bloke

katrinefedora · 19/05/2015 00:17

and "obviously", as if the OP is thick and the last two years haven't happened?

the dynamics of this relationship look very wrong to me, it's like the guy is kind of "yeah i'm top boy and what i say goes because i have a big house and a boat".

it's like he doesnt actually care what his girlfriend of two years thinks of him or how she feels (hence the cinema incident)?

HelenaDove · 19/05/2015 00:19

springy You aint picky. Can i join you on the "cant like him bench"

HelenaDove · 19/05/2015 00:24

I just told DH about this thread.

He just said to me.."hes as tight as a nats" He also said this "Why doesnt the OP clatter around on his boat in a pair of stilettos. Grin

tipsytrifle · 19/05/2015 08:54

So you've been through all this anxiety and pain, questioned the relationship and so on because YOU didn't "get" his joke?? Was he joking when he humiliated you in public too? He's a condescending liar, CotswoldQueen and I think he thinks you're not very bright.

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