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lies lies lies

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gutted1 · 11/04/2015 01:18

hi, Ive just stumbled across this site as I'm frantically searching for answers.
A bit of background - my husband and I have been togeteher for close to 20 years and married for 4 of these. We have 2 children, 1 together and 1 from my previous relationship. We are both 38.

Over the years I have always had an uneasy feeling that my husband hasnt always been true to me. He works for a large organisation in the city which often involves entertaining evenings and often trips away - dubai, las vegas, san francisco, amsterdam to name just a few. I never accomapny him on these trips.

About 6 years ago I came across a bank statement which showed he had spent just under £1000 in a lap dancing club. I was gutted. I did confront him and immediately got berated for 'looking through his stuff'. He said he was drunk and nothing had happened and that he had been 'conned'.
We got through this and decided to truely commit and get get married after so long together.
I'm not sure if things got better or if I was just ignorant to it!
Over the years there have been several nights out in which my husband would not return home until the next day or very late. He would get very drunk, to the point that on occasions he has passed out, fallen asllep on trains, come come with black eyes, cuts to head, lost phones/laptops etc. He will never tell me where he has been or what he has been doing. He keeps his finances seperate and I have no idea of what he spends and where. I have found out that he has continued to visit strip clubs and spend alot of money there. I dread to think what the money can buy him.
It came to heads just before christmas last year when he failed to return home after a night out. I had to lie to our son in the morning that he had stayed at a friends when I had no idea where he was and if we was even ok. When I returned from work that eveing he was home, he had cuts to his head and bruising. He said he fell asleep at the station and fell over. Again, I was gutted and just didnt know what to believe. He said he couldnt continue like this and that the drink would kill him or ruin our marraige - its true it is! He said that he jst couldnt go out any more.
Things had got better, he had gone out very rarely and not got in this state but things have still not been great between us.

We are very rarely intimate - im not sure if this is my doing or his or down to how i feel about everything. Since having our son our sex life has been a little awkward as we rarely get any privacy. I find this hard as I feel uncomfortable if our son is awake and in the room next to us. I also suffer terribly with cystitis and seem to have constant thrush. Any sexual contact results in this. This is a horrible situation for me as I have needs too, it isnt that I dont want to be with my husband, I do. I feel Im letting him down in that sense but then it does take two. Over the last 8 months on the rare occasions that we have been intimate, the way he wants to do this is different. This makes me paranoid that he has done these things with other women. I have suspected he has been unfaithful but didnt want to believe it. I fear that he has had sexual contact with strippers, random girls he has met or even prostitutes.
He has recently been to amsterdam on buisness and he lied about only going out for the work dinner as I have found reciepts showing otherwise. I feel dreadful for looking for such evidence but I just have had the most awful feeling.

It was this eveing that I discovered a card in his bag for a sexual health clinic showing that he has been tested for chlamydia, gonorrhoea, HIV and syphillis. This has made all my most dreaded fears become reality. There would be no need to be tested for these things unless he had had sexual contact with someone. I am devestated.

Im not sure what Im hoping for by posting this on here. He is away this weekend. I have kept the card. I know that he will discover it is gone. If I confront him for this I know he will blame me for 'looking through his things'. But to me, this just proves that I wasnt the one going crazy, my fears and thoughts have been valid. Im not sure what else to say right now. apart from gutted. :(

OP posts:
Stitchintime1 · 12/04/2015 22:42

Shuts? Shits. Sorry.

Good night and good luck.

tipsytrifle · 12/04/2015 22:55

The loathing in his eyes is more than likely blind rage at having been called on his dirty, nasty behaviour. It's the "how dare you" look, I think. This disgusting person never ever thought you would challenge him. That alone is a slap to his arrogant shittiness and now, darn it, he might have to cover up even more of his activities. None of which suggest a healthy attitude to women, by the way.

Cloudhowe63 · 12/04/2015 23:00

I haven't read entire thread yet - but most of. This is one of the worst.
You have not thrown your marriage away. He has and has the audacity to turn it back on you.
He is showing contempt for you and for your marriage. You love the person you thought he was. That person doesn't exist. Perhaps he never did.
Imagine the advice you would give a friend or your daughter if they found themselves in this nightmare.
He hasn't even used protection to safeguard your health!
And the cuts and bruises suggest something darker than strip clubs and prostitutes, gutted.
You are strong. You can do this. Flowers

Momagain1 · 12/04/2015 23:03

He is horrible. You know it. You can leave him. This marriage has been over a long time.

Goodbetterbest · 13/04/2015 05:05

Print this thread out. Read it, re-read it. Keep the copy. Write everything down. Go to a solicitor.

If your daughter's partner treated her like this, would it be good enough for her? Or would you be packing her bags and bringing her home?

There is nothing left for you to do but end your relationship. And it's a lot easier than you think it is going to be.

Justusemyname · 13/04/2015 07:09

I really hope you can believe the people telling you what the reality of your life is. You aren't living a good life. You're his entertainment before he gets bored and finds another woman to destroy.

Twinklestein · 13/04/2015 08:50

The loathing is for himself, for the rotten apple he knows he is underneath, he projects it onto you because refusing his lies makes him face the person he really is. It's so much easier to blame you, then he never has to confront reality.

I really hope you can get to a place where you can see everything he says is lies. If you're struggling with that, don't be afraid to get help from a third party - a therapist etc - to help you get there. It can really help gain perspective.

Uninvesting and detaching can be a gradual process. It's hard because you want to believe the person is who you once thought they were.

The fact that no-one guessed at work, shows how incredibly strong you are.
And the fact that you already work full time means you are in a very strong position to get away from this man and build an independent life free from his abuse.

chocolatefingersandtoes · 13/04/2015 09:12

What a horrible situation! I'm sure that deep down you know he's been terribly unfaithful, let alone all the other abuse you are now revealing. TBH, the hardcore binge drinking is a major, major red flag and a huge issue in its self. You may not realise it now but you and your little family would/will be much happier without this parasite. Good Luck todayFlowers

Kleptronic · 13/04/2015 10:43

Good luck for your health gutted x

gutted1 · 13/04/2015 14:50

Well I made it until lunchtime at work before I broke down. Just couldn't pretend to be normal.
I was given the number of a counsellor to arrange an appointment.
I'm currently waiting my turn at a gum clinic.
My husband didn't say a word to me this morning. Just still that look of contempt in his eye.

OP posts:
Justusemyname · 13/04/2015 15:19

Don't look at him and then you can't see anything in his eyes

CoffeeBeanie · 13/04/2015 15:29

Good luck Flowers

Hope he hasn't given you anything. I'm glad your work is supportive.

Twinklestein · 13/04/2015 15:29

I'm so sorry to hear that you broke down, I'm glad you're going to see a counsellor. You could really do with support right now.

PreemptiveSalvageEngineer · 13/04/2015 15:55

I'm sorry you're going through such a rough time right now. But I truly think the tears today will prove to be cathartic.

Hugs and strength.

ptumbi · 13/04/2015 16:03

maybe my lack of attentiveness in looking after him has driven him away. - hahahahhahahah - oh wait, you weren't joking?

No, maybe it's his complete lack of respect, his complete contempt for you that has caused this?

What a bastard - he spat at you? There is NO coming back from that

Psipsina · 13/04/2015 16:25

Good luck pet xxxx

CoveredInWit · 13/04/2015 16:32

I don't have anything useful to add Gutted but just want to tell you how sorry I am that you're in such an awful situation. You poor thing.

This is NOT your fault. You have NOTHING to feel guilty about. You are being cruelly manipulated by a masterful emotional abuser.

Your husband is an absolutely spectacular cunt.
Leave the bastard. You and your kids deserve so much more than this.

Thinking of you and wishing you strength x

gutted1 · 13/04/2015 16:39

The support you are all showing really helps so thank you.
The nurse was lovely and very thorough. I have had full screening and will get results in the next 2 weeks but she promised to call me personally once they are in. She said it may be as soon as Thursday. I have to go back for repeat swabs in 2 weeks, repeat HIV in 4 weeks and repeat blood syphilis in 3 months. She said I need to be sure. Just got to wait now..

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Psipsina · 13/04/2015 16:46

Really well done. You are so brave.

magoria · 13/04/2015 16:50

You don't have a marriage.

You have a jail sentence.

This man has nothing but contempt and dislike for you.

You deserve better.

CoffeeBeanie · 13/04/2015 16:52

Well done. You do have to be sure. I'm glad the nurse was so lovely.

AnyFucker · 13/04/2015 17:02

That took a lot of guts, OP

massively more guts than your skanky husband will ever have

now, that look on his face ? You can choose to get rid of it, or at least make it so you don't have to witness it every day

Imagine that...

Psipsina · 13/04/2015 17:04

Be prepared that if there is anything show up, he will tell you it was you that gave it to him. Obviously that's what he will say.

I would keep it to myself when the results came in, either way - he has no right to know. He lost that right a long while ago.

AnyFucker · 13/04/2015 17:27

yes, these results are for you

I wouldn't even tell him you have been tested.

Vivacia · 13/04/2015 18:54

I'd like to give him fucking contempt. Grr.