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The Brave Babes Battle Bus - Shaking Off The Winter Blues And Getting Out Our Booze Free Summer Shoes!

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Mouseface · 01/04/2015 14:49

Hello, tis me, Mouse

Welcome to the Bus. It's a Bus full of drinkers, non-drinkers, occasional slurpers, sneaky sippers, we're all a very different bunch but we ALL have the same thing in common.

Alcohol.

We all have a story or two to tell, we have all been through some terrible times, some more than others and we all have our reasons for drinking or even not. Smile

The one true wonderful thing about this Bus is that we don't do judging!! We're all on a even playing field, no matter what has brought us to this thread.

So, if you'd like to talk, then talk. If you want to lurk and see how we work for a while, that's cool too :)

The Bus is never full, there's always is room for YOU.

And, if you'd like to see what started this off, amost good 5 years ago now, have a look at A TRULY AWESOME HEARTFELT THEAD HERE

And our last thread is just here too for those who would like some more history THIS IS WHERE WE'VE JUST BEEN

Hope to see you soon :) xxx

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SmallFox · 06/04/2015 10:58

Ooh, look forward to hearing about Cinderella - dc are clamouring to go. Have denied them today in favour of Improving Walk in the sun plus visit to Cultural Heritage Property. They are not happy, hee hee.

Lovely Easter weekend here, though a few pangs for wine over a very nice lunch out yesterday. We're off to the seaside at the end of the week for our hols and I am a bit nervous about how I will deal with being AF for a whole week away. But I remember the equivalent holiday last year being literally pickled for the entire time and being frequently ashamed of my behaviour (eg passing out before we actually made it out for dinner) and I owe it to the family to be better and more present this year. And the fact that - touch wood - the journey down will be take place on on day 100 should give me a bit of a spur! Still can't quite believe it.

Have a lovely day all - and look forward to hearing about the film. Waves to Mouse and her poorly but non stinky arm!

lookingforhope · 06/04/2015 12:55

Hi Babes. Happy Easter Monday. Still in PJs here Easter Blush but going to do some exercise after Tesco online shop and then sort out clothes. Just watched Splash with dd Easter Grin

Well, the swim yesterday did me a world of good, and am beginning to feel a bit better after 6 AF days. Well, nearly. Took dcs out for Japanese food after swimming and automatically ordered a bottle of Sapporo, but only had the one and then switched to tap water followed by green tea. Realise it's not the drink I want sometimes but the oblivion. So the odd beer in a social situation isn't triggering (though wine is) but if I drink for the reason that I am stressed ... well, that's when I don't stop Easter Blush. Realising also that exercise and healthy eating do lift my mood, fact! It's just so hard to do when I'm feeling desperate. Supposed to be back in 'work' tomorrow, but not going in as there's nothing to do. Still stressed about that but am trying to mindfully banish the thoughts as there's nothing I can do atm but wait...

Soooo..... What are we all up to today? Ma hope you are having a bit of a break. Your post about WB and the heating hit home. We constantly have that row, I hate the house being hot (and of course I pay for the heating bills!) and he would have it like a greenhouse cos he is always cold. I find dialling down the thermostat to 1 is effective. Have you spoken to the neighbours about your roof yet? Good luck with it xxx Let us know how it goes...

Mouse how's the whiffy arm? Tea tree oil masks most smells and has the bonus of fighting infection! (I use it when my piercings go gunky - sorry if too much information, but seriously, use a tea tree spray, you won't smell anything else for hours!)

Spanna !!!!!!!! So glad to have you back, have missed you xxxxx Congratulations on Day 7 Easter Smile

Crutched - hope you get to the cinema and enjoy Cinderella. I do so feel for you and wish you would stop beating yourself up; yes, you drank, but your partner set a trap for you which was unforgivable. I think he needs to get off his high horse, frankly. You may still love him, but he doesn't deserve it, what he did was mean, and he knew it would affect the whole family. Look, I have no room to talk about relationships, I put up with a lot of crap myself - too much - but it's a while since I believed him when he said his shitty treatment of me was all my fault. What he did to you was not OK, he goaded and tempted you so he could have the moral high ground. Don't give it to him. OK end of lecture, have some Flowers now (hands flowers over and sneaks some green opal fruits from Ma's stash for Crutched to take to the cinema)

Small - 100 days is amazing! I hereby introduce a 100 day medal for the bus, with an edible garland of opal fruits as a reward (you eat them and then put the medal back on the dashboard for the next 100 day babe). So you can't give up now or else I won't give it to you! (it's full of GREEN opal fruits. You know you want it!)

Baby, Khalisi, Sweet, Faire/Eggy, Fevvers, Ruby and all of you (can't scroll back atm or will lose post but if I missed your name, sorry, didn't mean to!) - thanks all for your support at the moment. I am working on myself slowly trying to get my confidence back after the work thing, and you are all such a big help. And I am also eating way too much chocolate (feel slightly sick and ashamed Easter Blush ) but hoping to pack that in soon...

Had a go at WB yesterday for spending time with everyone from his moaning mother to his selfish sister and making time for watching footie whenever we go out, but then suddenly finding 'work' to do (his pretend writing job that earns no money ffs) when I suggest doing something as a family. So he has made big thing of asking me what I want to do today (on Easter Monday when everything is closed, with two teenage and pre-teen kids) and then said 'don't moan and throw it back in my face if you can't think of anything'. He just doesn't get it that it's his general attitude of using me as a cashpoint and putting the family last behind his stupid pretend life that pisses me off. And getting cross with me being in the house when I have no reason to go in work. Think he would rather I sat in the office from 9 to 5 every day so I wasn't in the way. Everyone else goes out with their families, for meals, walks, cinema trips, days out. I know, I see the smug facebook posts! Every bloody day. I have to beg the wanker to come on a family holiday that I pay for. His sister offered to buy us a meal for our anniversary 8 months ago and we've still not been. I don't want his company but it would have been the only meal out we've had in about a year that I've not paid for. If she'd offered to pay for him to go to the footie with ds, or even take his mum out, he'd have gone the same week. It's not even that I want to spend time with him, it's that he makes it so obvious that he finds it a chore being anywhere near me but won't piss off. I mean at least pretend you aren't just here for the money, wankbadger! Grrrr....

Am actually going to take a leaf out of Khalisi's book and go for a run now to work off my rage ....

Enjoy the bank holiday all... see you later xxx

NoAprilFool · 06/04/2015 13:41

Hello, happy Monday all!

crutched, that sounds really tough. Hope the film is a good distraction. At the worst, the cinema is a nice and dark place to have a good cry.

mouse, glad the arm is a bit less whiffy!

sweet, what kind of pup is it?

Hello to all others, I'm rubbish at remembering/ scrolling back and always remember just as I post what I meant to say.

Day 6 here and the last 2 days have been an absolute doddle. I caught DD's sick bug and the thought of eating or drinking anything makes me heave. Every cloud has a silver lining! Feeling a bit better today but I will not be drinking.

lavenderhoney · 06/04/2015 19:44

Hello, I'm new to this thread but have decided to stop drinking. I have a glass or two in the evening which might not sound very much, but I have discovered if I run out of wine/ decide not to buy any I get really worried about missing my evening tipple and that's not good and very possibly a slippery slope.

I am quite vain and shallow so I'm hoping that's a plus in the step to sobriety as I feel bloated a lot despite running 5 miles a day and an hour's pilates.

I'm hoping I am in the right place! Any tips welcome on stopping drinking. I've heard taking vitamin b1 really helps - anyone tried it?

SmallFox · 06/04/2015 19:50

Hello Lavender and welcome to the bonkers bus. You are very welcome aboard - when you feel ready, draw up a rug, snuggle down and tell us a bit about yourself.

I love your 'vain and shallow' comment - am sure its not true, but what a great thing to say! At 96 days AF I can safely say that there are many plusses to sobriety, physical, mental and possibly also spiritual (though that may be going too far!). But for the initial couple of weeks certainly a reduction in bloatedness and a vast improvement in sleep quality (possibly after an early blip on that front) are definitely things to look forward to. It sounds like you are being so sensible in acknowledging that even though its only a glass or two, the regularity and anxiety around your daily tipple makes it worth trying to put a stop to it for a while.

I did take vitamin B1 (or was it B2, I can't remember) for the first 30 days. I don't know if it helped as I don't know what it would have been like otherwise, but lots of people say its a great thing to do, and frankly I would have taken all the boosts I could get at that stage - so maybe go for it. Stock up with nice AF treat drinks, and think about a substitute ritual to distract you at witching hour!

Sorry, got to rush to get supper on, but welcome and see you soon.

guggenheim · 06/04/2015 21:19

whoo - my 2nd af night in the past 7 days. Doesn't sound much to be proud of but, I am anyway Smile

I'm a rubbish name checker so I'll just say hi to lavendar and smallfox since they are just up from me.

I listened to my meditation app and recognised when I was feeling miserable so I am going to count this as a good day.

goes to bed quickly before anyone points out that there is plenty of day left for it to all go wrong in

Oooh AND I feel well enough to come back and talk rubbish on the bus. Happy now.

lookingforhope · 06/04/2015 22:56

Welcome back Guggs Easter Smile Glad you are having a good day. How are you finding the meditation?

spanna41 · 06/04/2015 23:12

Fox your hols by the sea sound lush Easter Smile and 100 days coming up, Whoop, Whoop so awesome, go on tell us what you've saved to date, give me my fix honey x

Hope you're ace and I hope your run was good Easter Grin You just keep on keeping on, you are strong & wise, keep fighting those bastards at work. You have rights and they really are taking the fucking piss Easter Angry Luffs you babe, have a lovely day tomorrow, what you got planned?

Welcome Lavendar you're in the right place, you'll get some wonderful support and advice here Easter Smile

sorry making the most of the bunnies before they disappear Easter Grin I've really pushed the boat out tonight drinking Old Jamaica Ginger Beer, lush Easter Hmm well it's fizzy and sweet Easter Grin

Guggs well done on 2 Days. Are you going to join me for Day 3 tomorrow? It's good to have you back Easter Smile

Sweet hope the greenhouse is coming on, is it fully erected yet? Easter Hmm

Day 7 Done. Night all xxx

babyjane1 · 06/04/2015 23:16

Hi guys,

Just a quick post to give everyone an Easter hug. It's been a busy but fun weekend, seen lots of friends and their kids and my girls have had a great time. My diet and excercise plan has gone off the boil a bit due to having no fridge freezer and missing classes due to waiting for engineers and kids being off etc. I feel less on the ball when I don't get my excercise fix but planning a gym visit tomorrow and an afternoon of housework. It's not much but a tidy house and daily excercise seems to keep my mood level and that keeps me sober.

I hope it's the little things that make bigger things happen and right now surviving the holidays is big enough!!!

Lots of hugs to everyone and a big welcome to lavender and our lovely guggs I'm so glad your back with us, good on you girl xxx

Love to y'all xxx

spanna41 · 07/04/2015 07:29

Morning Babes

Day 8 whoop whoop Easter Grin I think I might be feeling a slight boing Easter Shock

April missed you there last night sorry you've been unwell but like you said there was a plus side Easter Grin Well done on Day 6 t'will be one week today, keep it up babe, you'll start to feel the benefits soon Easter Smile

Ma you ok lovely?

Baby good to see you honey, so glad you had a good weekend and your girlies had fun, that is excellent and makes me smile! I wish I could be as enthusiastic about housework. I know I feel so much better when it's done, it's the getting started Easter Confused Have a lovely day wonderful one x

Hope whatever it is you're doing today (very little, I hope) relaxing, having fun with DC, ENJOY not being at work. Have a mindful day full of lovely experiences and above all ignore WB Easter Grin

Right need to get ready for work Easter Sad DD2 is coming in with me and I've got 2 Bingos to do today with me oldies, two fat ladies and all that jazz.

Have a good day everyone Easter Smile Easter Grin for those not working today Easter Envy xxx

Khalisi · 07/04/2015 10:36

Good morning, most darlings of Babes! Easter Smile

Crutches, my lovely. One of my mantras:
Do not make someone a priority for whom you are an option.

You might have been drunk for a long time, but underneath that, is this:
A love too beautiful, to be thrown back in your face.
A love too enduring, to be thrown back in your face.
A love too delicious, to be thrown back in your face.
Please continue in this way adding.

WB DOES NOT deserve your love.
bosies, babes
x

Good girl, for hitting the road to work off steam, Hope!
You know, I am now on the road to becoming a woman of a certain age (from a twenty year old's perspective, obviously!).
I know this might sound a bit Easter Hmm but please give it a thought.
Fuck WB. Fuck his efforts of getting you out of YOUR house.
And fuck his pretentious family moments.

  1. Call his sister and ask her for a certain amount in cash.
  2. Invite your funniest, sexiest, most beautiful friend to go with you. (Personally, nothing makes me feel as good as a beautiful woman who got ready just for me. (yes, I love women too).
  3. THEN only him about the booking (knowing very well he won't want to).
  4. Get ready, and I mean READY. Nails, hair, facial, bubbly, lovely hips wiggling music; the whole nine yards (while he wonders what the hell you're on).
  5. Go to dinner with friend.
  6. HAVE THE TIME OF YOUR LIFE.

BECAUSE YOU'RE WORTH IT, goddammit!!!!

And do things with your kids. Just plan them and go. If he asks, tell him. If not, you don't.
You do not need his fuck face to add validity to your moments with your children. You are a family with or without him.

SPHEW. Have to post before I lose it (the post, obviously. Mind already long lost! [btugrin])

Khalisi · 07/04/2015 10:55
Easter Grin well, that escalated quickly! (including typos! 3. THEN only tell.)

so, now on!

Welcome, Lavender! You're on the right bus being vain! I think we all are, really. We might concentrate on different things or parts of our lives looking good but it is because really, whatever looks good makes us look good, right?!

Hey baby, my darling! So proud of you keeping it together despite the annoying things! Yes, exercise is excellent for controlling mood swings. I feel rather grumpy if a few days go by without any.
So Flowers that your fridge gets sorted out and that you get back your you time soon!

Oh spanna! I'm also back at work today! Easter Sad and Easter Envy
But at least we'll have the bunnies a few more days yet, right?! Day 8, babes!!! Easter Grin

Fox inspirational! OMG. Easter Blush
On Sunday I literally thought, OMG, the Easter Bunny brought me bubbly! Easter Blush
I know it was my friend's husband! But was was really happy (and opened the bottle yesterday).
So, yet again. Day 1 for me.

Hey sweet! What's Pup up to today?!

Waves to guggs, April, ma and all you lovely Babes!

guggenheim · 07/04/2015 12:41

Wow- I've missed you lot,lots & lots.

I've spent so much time feeling down that I couldn't come back and just join in with the daft chat,depression is a very odd beastie indeed. I'm fine now and on the lookout for any symptoms of slipping into negative thoughts.

I don't know when or how often i'm going to be af,so I just won't worry about it at all. Smile
I have discovered the other most supportive and amazing thread on MN- the sn boards. As far as i'm concerned all the lovely women /men/ dogs on these two threads deserve the best and biggest thank you & bunch of flowers ever.

I've had a fab morning with ds planting seeds and just enjoying being with him.

Big squeezes to all- looking,spanna,baby,khalisi,ma,mouse and all lovely lurkers.

Yes the meditation definitely helps!
baby yup,I'm working on those mood levels too. High five,lovely!
Why no fridge?

lookingforhope · 07/04/2015 12:46

Morning babes Easter Smile

Glorious sunny day today and am actually feeling a boing - thanks to spending most of yesterday outdoors, and the inspiration of you lovely lot. Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!

Khalisi that run yesterday was the best thing I could have done. Felt marvellous afterwards, and then tackled the garden and had a shower and felt even better! It helps that I got to run here (photos attached). And that bench there is my special place and I sat alone for a while and thought my thoughts and appreciated the beauty of nature, and I realised that being outdoors is my healing place. So am going to make time every day to do this!

I love your plan by the way. Though SIL would never give me money, she needs it all for her bi-monthly holidays to get away from the stresses and strains of being a jobless millionaire with nail appointments and facials to keep up Easter Grin. But going for a meal out with a friend tomorrow (after lovely swim and sauna and stroll through town] and will raise my glass of sparkling lime and soda to you dearest lovely inspirational Khalisi xxx And you are right, me and the DCs are a family without WB and I love and adore them and don't need him to validate us. So, yeah, taking DS to town in a bit and then this evening it's Glee box-set with DD. And chocolate. Magical!

Baby, darling Baby. How are you today? I have discovered exercise and outdoors are my mood levellers. Our 'me' time is not just a bonus, it is essential to keeping us sober, so here's to us, and our exercise (even though I look like the fat sweaty women off 'this girl can' ads, rather than the Jessica Ennis I would like to be) Easter Grin

Spanna lovely - hope you enjoy your day too, thanks for the support. Am trying to embrace mindfulness and enjoy the little moments and live in the present. If nothing else it might help me stop losing my keys! Easter Grin

Lavender, April (love the name) welcome babes! How are you both today?

Ma where are you? Have you run off with the hunky military chaps? Easter Grin

Mouse hope the arm is a bit better today Flowers

Sweet - how is pup today?

Right, got to get outdoors now!!!! Yay! Luffs to you all. You have all been so helpful in getting me through a couple of dark weeks. You are amazing, amazing, amazing xxx

The Brave Babes Battle Bus - Shaking Off The Winter Blues And Getting Out Our Booze Free Summer Shoes!
The Brave Babes Battle Bus - Shaking Off The Winter Blues And Getting Out Our Booze Free Summer Shoes!
The Brave Babes Battle Bus - Shaking Off The Winter Blues And Getting Out Our Booze Free Summer Shoes!
dementedma · 07/04/2015 13:06

Here. Struggling.

Khalisi · 07/04/2015 13:53

Here Flowers ma.
If you can, even if just for 20 minutes, do go for a walk. You can't get away from your problems but you can do something small for yourself, babe.
I'm really sorry you're having a crap day.

Hope, find out what your SIL's favourite product is (facial) and at the next family get together, wait until she has taken one bite but just before the next and say 'oh, SIL darling, did you read that they discovered traces of dog poo it ...?! Seriously, companies should be ashamed of themselves. But then again one can never really believe everything one reads today, can one? Could you please pass me the carrots? Dave, darling, what was that you said earlier about ducks?'
Then secretly watch her face. Easter Grin
Fucking cow (for not caring about you being stuck with her good for nothing brother).

SweetLathyrus · 07/04/2015 18:45

Gosh, where did today go?

Hello everyone,Lavender, welcome - as the resident gardener on board Gerald, and self confessed Bee-fanatic, you have a name to be proud of.

Hope I love your photos - being by water is so healing for me too - but more than that, I love your fight and positivity today. "Go Ho-ope, go Ho-ope"

Small, I have started rigging the bunting for your day 100. Have a fabulous holiday, you are giving yourself and your family the very best Easter present EVER.

Gugs, what seeds have you been planting?

Spanna, Love you (love all the babes), erection is a bit limp today Grin we have completed sides all over the garden, but DH was working today, so progress ground to a halt - he is promising to get back on the job tomorrow.

Baby, fixed fridge yet? (And, I had an Hotel Chocolate egg for Easter - I dare not weigh myself, I've been eating it for breakfast Hmm.

Wh's'up Ma, you have so many reasons to struggle, but can we help?

April hope you're feeling better today - to answer your question, Pup is a Working Cocker Spaniel (there are photos on the previous thread, but I will put up another (see 'proud mummy' comment below!)

And Khalisi, you mad bynt (bint?). I just love your out pourings, you sound really boasted by your break.

OK, here's the 'pup-date' . . . Pup had his second vacs and microchip today, and was a very brave boy. Apparently, Schmackos are the dog equivalent of Dreamies! Everyone at the vets commented on what a happy, well behaved pup he is , and he spent the rest of the day with me in the garden (though my hostas are not going to be great this year!). We are also on our third 'accident-free' day - and the animal disinfectant is living in the cupboard rather than on the coffee table!

As for me, feeling positive on day 14, and enjoying being child-free for a while, whilst loving knowing what a good time he is having en France.

SweetLathyrus · 07/04/2015 18:46

Khalisi

SweetLathyrus · 07/04/2015 18:47

Pup

The Brave Babes Battle Bus - Shaking Off The Winter Blues And Getting Out Our Booze Free Summer Shoes!
SweetLathyrus · 07/04/2015 18:56

'Boosted', I meant boosted, Khalisi I think the sun has got to me!

dementedma · 07/04/2015 19:09

Just can't get out of low mood. Wake up every day feeling sick. Can't see the future, worried about everything.
Thing a trip to docs is in order. Maybe depression linked to menopause. Maybe just a miserable moaning bitch.

SweetLathyrus · 07/04/2015 19:20

You ARE NOT a 'moaning bitch', take a look at symptoms of the menopause - mood disturbance is not unusual. But, you have so much stress (how is your Dad by the way?), you need to see the GP. Mine prescribed CBT and exercise as well as pharmaceuticals, and it really does help.

aliasjoey · 07/04/2015 20:02

ma good idea to see your GP, although anyone would feel like moaning with all you have to cope with!

sweets your pup has already grown a lot! Now, as the Bus gardening expert, will you give me some advice on my rockery? Due to poor health I have neglected it for the last few years, and now it's a right mess.

Not even sure where to start. How do I get all the grass out without disturbing the bulbs and other plants which are being suffocated? Also is it the wrong time of year to cut back the heathers... Confused

dementedma · 07/04/2015 20:23

Dad now has a chest infection and is on a drip. I will visit tomorrow

SweetLathyrus · 07/04/2015 20:26

Joey, you probably don't want my advice on heathers - they have come straight out of EVERY garden I have ever taken over Blush. I'm afraid pulling out the grass is unavoidable slog - but it is very satisfying. Get a cushion, a radio and a ginger beer and sit yourself down for an hour. It will seem impossible to begin with, but after a little while you will look back on where you have been and see a clean space. Grass is usually quite shallow rooted so even if you pull it out, you won't disturb bulbs, and if you do pull out anything you want to keep, at this time of year, if you firm it back in , it will soon recover. If I could come and do it for you, I would - it's my idea of meditation.

RHS advice on pruning heather is:

^"Heathers need minimal pruning. Lightly trim winter-flowering varieties in April after they have finished flowering.

Prune summer-flowering heathers at the same time, allowing you to enjoy their attractive seed heads over winter. This growth should also be left as it provides new shoots with protection from frost. 'Avoid cutting back too hard,' advises Andy.

'Your aim is to follow the contours of the plant, pruning to just beneath the spent flowers."^

Grin
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