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HOBBITS BAR - still finding it hard to move on ......(part 3)

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greenberet · 15/02/2015 12:08

here we go ladies & drifting dogs welcome too of the harvey kind!

grab your drinks - Brew, Wine and izzietinis dependant on time of day & how we are feeling

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iwashappy · 24/02/2015 23:27

I had a look at the song lyric thread (thanks Bob), it is good.

Try and have a good nights sleep Izzie.

WhyMe that must be really hard for you, so sorry. They really don't have any shame or any respect. Look after yourself and stuff them. xx

Izzie595 · 25/02/2015 07:01

Morning bobs, had a quick look at the song thread. I won't post my present fave lyrics and lower the toneGrin. I thought I might post a few lines from Time by Pink Floyd, but the lines have already been posted. I may have a full look later at work

bobs123 · 25/02/2015 09:27

Well that wasn't what i expected...Mediation called (as expected) to cancel our appt tomorrow, but not because of him, but because the Mediator is poorly! Rescheduling for next week. Grrrrrrrrr Angry

Hobbitwife001 · 25/02/2015 10:13

Hi everyone, they are vile scumWhy, let's hope they get a horrible disease, eg. Knob rot and flap rot, from the contaminated water!

Please don't look at FB my love, I know it's hard not to, but it must hurt so much, to see their antics displayed on a public forum, WANKERS.

Bobs do you go in to mediation with a clear plan of what you want to ask for financially? And then the mediator discusses whether it is fair or not?
Does he advise what a common outcome would be based on your from e if you went to court? Just picking your brain really, can I take a friend with me or not? Lots of love , x

bobs123 · 25/02/2015 11:14

Hi Hobbit the easy one first - taking in a friend - you'll have to ask your mediator and be prepared that if you take in a friend, then he can too! Personally I don't think it's a good idea but i understand you want the support. Perhaps you could arrive with a friend and they could wait while you're in the meeting?

Have you had your initial assessment meeting yet? This is where you voice all you concerns - good to make a list for that. EG one of my concerns was that we would agree something and then once he took the agreement to his solicitor he would say no (being the sort of sol he is)

The first question we were each asked at our first joint meeting was what we expected to get out of mediation. My honest answer was to be able to move on. In hindsight it was probably not a good thing to say as it's in his make-up to try to prevent that happening and I shouldn't have voiced it - stupid me I should have known better!

I think you have to go into mediation initially with an open mind to be directed by the mediator. Because I've already done a year of solicitors and also seen a barrister I had a clear plan - in fact I already had a spreadsheet neatly typed out, even though I didn't have any up to date details of his finances.

The mediator, I stress, cannot give advice, rather direction.

The starting point, after you've aired all your "petty" little grievances (which wastes time and money) is to have all your income and expenses compared and work out who needs what to live on. At the end of the day, everything else laid aside, it comes down to reasonable needs.

So for example, (and as you have DC over 18 like mine will be) is it reasonable that you should have a larger house as they might not be able to get a job for a while and will need support. Should he pay maintenance for a DC at uni if his income is bigger? Should non-matrimonial assets be "ringfenced" (kept out of the pot) if there is enough in the pot to meet both parties needs? What is both of your capacity to get a mortgage?

Don't know if you've seen the link re spousal maintenance, but if you're expecting to claim it for the foreseeable, it looks like that will be knocked on the head and you would only get it till you can get back on your feet/get retrained to earn yourself - a few years. I'm not claiming it.

All our situation are different and you would do well to get some sort of advice before you start.

Oh - and there are references made to what might happen in court. Have You seen Section 25 of the Matrimonial Causes Act? This is the basis by which settlements are made but not set in stone.

xx

bobs123 · 25/02/2015 11:17

And a mediator cannot say what is fair, rather if one person is being treated massively unfairly they will suggest they get further advice from their solicitor re this, that or the other.

Izzie595 · 25/02/2015 18:40

Got a letter from the garage addressed to him! It has pissed me off. So I've emailed the salesman to ask him to change records. Mentioned we are separated and that he helped me with the car purchase and handed over joint funds, but that's it. The salesman may remember my comment about my "H" won't be driving the car again once he had driven it home for me.....

I am sick to death of the twat, the ex, I mean, and I want him out of my life

On the New Years Eve Heartbreak thread Dowser makes a comment about looking back at photos of her ex and saying she could see something different in his face during the period he was cheating on her. I've looked back at a photo DS1 took of him. I don't know if I see anything. But I do look at it and see a cheat that I have no respect for. I've kept that photo to look at to remind myself, if I should ever waver

www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXgAEBrP98g

Hobbitwife001 · 25/02/2015 18:59

Thanks sooo much Bobs , I just didn't know what to expect, I will ring for my first assessment appointment tomorrow, he has only just agreed to go to mediation. I have read up on MC act and all that it covers, and I feel I have a good case, it's just all up in the air though, nothing is for DEFINATE, which is what is so stressful. X

Hobbitwife001 · 25/02/2015 19:00

Where is Drifting by the way? I miss his input :)

whyMe2014 · 25/02/2015 20:43

oh Hobbit...you made me laugh...flap rot! Thank you for putting a smile on my face.

Finally got a block on his number on my landline - so silence tonight. Lovely.

bobs123 · 25/02/2015 20:56

Good luck Hobbit just remember a good mediator should make you at ease as much as possible.

Well done whyme it's all about taking control Smile

Hobbitwife001 · 26/02/2015 09:06

Hello, Green, are you ok honey?
Bit quiet, doing some pondering?

WellWhoKnew · 26/02/2015 10:41

Good luck Hobbit knock him dead! (Well don't, but you know what I mean)

greenberet · 26/02/2015 12:39

Hi hobbit yes Im ok thanks - i take it you have mediation today - good luck - keep strongxx

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greenberet · 26/02/2015 12:59

actually I dont know why I posted that - im not doing ok - im falling apart and im scared - I spoke to women's aid yesterday and despite agreeing that everything I described is characteristic of emotional abuse there is bugger all that can be done about it. Ive been back to my GP he is saying my current state and reactions are perfectly understandable and that I am coping brilliantly - i don't feel like it anymore though - GP is ramping up the support. Ive realised Ive wasted the kids money informing my shl of all the little things that DH is doing because they count for nothing - I can touch him once and it can have immediate consequences - he mucks with my head for 20 years and the mental devastation counts for nothing. Im also struggling with the conflict of the natural urge to want to protect my kids but having to hold back. My divorce petition is going in. I seem to have run out of oomph to fight this - just want to crawl into a hole and for it all to disappear!

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whyMe2014 · 26/02/2015 17:27

Green ..... it's the unjust situation that you and many others find ourselves in through no fault of our own. You hold on in there. You're doing a fantastic job despite the twat trying to destroy you.

I've been told exactly the same things. They know the abuse happened and is still happening but these men are allowed to get away with it. And unfortunately the can carry on abusing us via child contact.

The system is so bias to the abuser that if we say that they should have restricted contact with the children it's us that get vilified. But I've been told by various professionals involved with my case that the children are adversely affected by contacted so why the bloody hell doesn't anybody tell the court system.

Perhaps we should all get together and lobby for changes.

Take care xx

bobs123 · 26/02/2015 17:29

Hi green Sorry you're feeling bad - only on here can you really say exactly how you're feeling (and to close friends of course). It comes so naturally to say "I'm fine" when you're not.

Unfortunately everything you feel does count for nothing in solicitor world and it's good that you are learning that. And of course you have to protect your kids - now especially.

I said earlier that I just wanted be sleeping beauty, to fall asleep for a year and it to all be over. But then we'd miss all the stuff going on in our kids' lives Smile.

I feel it's all about control, and the more control I have, the better I feel. You have put the divorce petition in - that's control on your part. There was something on F/B about writing 3 positive things every day, which is supposed to help when you feel down - perhaps you should try it...I'll start

  1. I worked today so the deposit for DD's french trip is now paid for
  2. We're having home-made stew for supper - yum!
  3. I have 2 gorgeous daughters and none of us have any communication with stbxtwat.

I also find vigorous exercise helps - even a brisk walk

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bobs123 · 26/02/2015 17:33

whyme I think EA will become more of a thing in the future, just not at this time Sad

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whyMe2014 · 26/02/2015 18:06

I hope so Bobs.

I also hope that our daughters never experience what we have but if they do then at least there might be help out there.

bobs123 · 26/02/2015 20:03

I think DDs have experienced enough from their "Dad" that hopefully they will recognise the signs and not fall into the trap of marrying someone like him.

Hobbitwife001 · 26/02/2015 21:33

Hi all, I havent had my first assessment yet! Just wanted to get my ducks in a row before I started.
Bad day today, youngest son broke down and said he was struggling at uni, anxiety ramped up by eating disorder and stress of separation, he doesn't feel he will pass the first year and wants to take a year out.

I have made an appointment for him with my counsellor and will take him to the gp, stress on top of stress, have my anti-anxiety meds and higher strength BP tablets in case my head explodes! Fuck, fuckity fuck, I could strangle that twunt for what he has done to our family.

whyMe2014 · 26/02/2015 22:21

oh Hobbit these men have no bloody idea of the fallout from their behaviour.

My stbxh just said 'they'll get over over' when I told him my little one was bed wetting and my eldest was hysterical when I had to tell them that daddy wasn't living with us anymore. He didn't tell them because he was a bloody coward.

I can't wait for the day when we're all on the other side of all this shit and we can say 'fuck off' to them.

Hobbitwife001 · 26/02/2015 23:22

I've already said that honey, and much more!
Wanna get the settlement out of the way, and then I'll let loose with both barrels on the both of them( verbally of course, mores the pity!)

Thinking of you and your lovely girls, x KOKO to us all

whyMe2014 · 26/02/2015 23:48

I must admit my own language has got extremely colourful since the f ing, bastard, c u next Tuesday, wanker, fucker, twat etc etc walked out. Maybe washing my own mouth out with soap at the end of this.

Night night - hopefully we'll all have a better day tomorrow. xx