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Text message meant for someone else?

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springchickennolonger · 24/09/2014 08:31

Looked at my phone this morning. Found a text message from Dp which was obviously not meant for me. It's incriminating -to another woman- but I don't want to draw any conclusions until I'm sure it's from his phone.

Is there any way it could be from somewhere else?

I'm a bit shocked tbh and not sure what to do.

My gut feeling is to gather more evidence before confronting him. Any advice?

Thanks.

OP posts:
ChippingInLatteLover · 25/09/2014 20:10

Spring - yes, I remember now, about the other house.

What do you think you will do - practically?

It's been a long time coming, so I don't think you'll be changing your mind about ending it. It's been a non marriage for ages. It will be hard at times, because there's always a part of you that wants 'what could have been' you just have to remind yourself that it wasn't what your life was like.

Life is short - it's time to start living it again Wine

Sassyb0703 · 25/09/2014 20:45

Spring I thought so. Doesn't make what's coming next any easier, but I wish you well. A long long time ago I was in your situation. After sometime I met my forever... it's not an easy road, but well worth the journey Wink

sykadelic · 25/09/2014 21:00

I'm sorry for you but also happy for you that he didn't try and deny it. That it was all rather "matter of fact" without being a prick about it (well, you know, aside from actually cheating...).

Hopefully your DD takes it okay. Are you thinking of telling her the truth "cheated" or "grown apart but we still love you"?

springchickennolonger · 25/09/2014 21:21

sykadelicI'm not sure yet. Today has been a bit surreal. Explaining will all be down to me.
Thank you all for being so supportive, letting me vent and keeping me calm and focussed. Thank f..k for MumsnetSmile

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unhappyfatmama · 25/09/2014 22:27

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lupo5 · 25/09/2014 22:45

Hi OP ,sorry to hear what happened. Please take few days for everything to sink in and then make sure that you know what you want.
30 years together is a long time.Are all bridges burned between two of you? Can damage be repaired? Do you still love him? And vice verse???
It's easy to say walk away but you are the one who is going through all the pain and shock.
Good luck Flowers

BlueBrightBlue · 25/09/2014 23:00

I really feel for you OP.
You are being incredibly strong in keeping you dignity and not having a showdown in front of your daughter.
A few points to consider;
The relationship was dead in the water so it can hardly have come as a huge surprise.
I don't think he's the villain some other posters have made him out to be.
Ok so he watches porn; but as you didn't have a sex life to speak of I can imagine his frustration. I'm saying this as a woman who is also peri menopausal and have very little libido.
I'm unclear about who owns what.
You say in a previous post that he owns the family home, yet I think you are saying now you own the home you are living in and paid all most of the contents?
Perhaps he should have been more honest with you earlier on about the fact your relationship had run it's course.
I think he stayed with you because of you daughter and so did you,
Try not to be bitter or goaded by some of the posters on this thread who have axes to grind .
Shit happens, it's not pleasant but we are all humans.
Think of this as the beginning of a new era not the ending of one.
I sincerely hope you can remain friends and still function as a family.

FreakinScaryCaaw · 25/09/2014 23:01

Sorry to read this Sad

iwashappy · 25/09/2014 23:29

Sorry that your suspicions were right, at least he didn't insult you further by denying it. Hope everything works out for you and DD, stay strong you have done so well.

MarriedAloneAndShit · 26/09/2014 07:42

BlueBrightBlue, in my opinion, has it spot on. So sorry you've had to go through this, I had similar in the early months of my relationship with DW (no infidelity, but certainly inappropriate communications between she and an old flame - almost like I was a safety net, the one who'd actually commit).
No affection in a marriage is shit (and it takes effort and understanding from both parties to solve- I get that he wasn't making the effort, probably mentally checked out). Whilst you acknowledge some great support from MN in this thread, I can't help but feel a little despair that some (just some, not all) responses seemed to be taking a little glee, a little soap opera sensationalist "oh, you go girl", from the updates: your husband (who is still your DC's father) has given a little more ammunition, a little more confirmation to the stereotypes - another bastard for some to lay into.

springchickennolonger · 26/09/2014 08:19

blue you're right. The relationship had run its course. I am bitter, though, mainly because I feel he's used me as a childbearing vessel, then as an au-pair to his daughter. He's a great dad in many ways, but he's never done any of the everyday grunt stuff like school runs. He's a typical Sunday morning dad-visible only when he sees fit. I've given up my career to support his life style. I've been loyal and asked him for nothing. I've supported myself and dd financially (I've been lucky in being able to do this): he doesn't take time off work, he doesn't pay for birthdays, holidays, clothes, trips -nothing. He's had everything his way and I've not felt able to demand anything more of him because I wanted to prioritise dd and her well-being.

He's always been selfish but I never saw him as sly, conniving or manipulative. This is what rankles, more than anything. If he'd wanted to play away, then he should have put his cards on the table and at least been open. Instead, he's played a role to impress others-doting dad, the kids' entertainer, the dynamic entrepreneur: kind and patient.

He's a different man to what I thought he was. People change, I know, especially over time, I understand the frustration of an unsatisfactory relationship too; the lack of affection, attention, interest, the poor sex: everything. I could have done something about it -I'm not a bloody nun-but I didn't.

But he did something about it-and for all I know this could be a long-standing habit-and got caught out. For all I know, the long working hours were a cover. The long, lonely hours I've spent at home, ensuring that he came back to a happy, clean child, tidy house and a meal on the table were wasted on a bloke who saw me as nothing more than an au-pair. Had I not caught him out, he would have carried on.

So I feel I have every right to be bitter. I am not a pushover, I consider myself to be capable and strong. I have asked nothing of this man but I feel I deserve some respect at least.

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ExpiredUserName · 26/09/2014 08:40

What a thoughtful post SpringChicken You sound so composed and insightful.

SisterMerror · 26/09/2014 08:45

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wantacatplease · 26/09/2014 09:00

You deserve so much more. This is not a partnership. You're the one who stands to gain here...more freedom, more time for yourself and Dd. Whereas he's going to have to cope with the loss of everything being done for him.

Fontella · 26/09/2014 09:04

I wrote yesterday .. and then didn't post for some reason but what I wrote was that you sound like an amazing woman OP, and far too good for your H who sounds like a prick. Having read your considered and thoughtful post this morning, it only confirms what I already thought.

Good luck to you OP - you do indeed have every right to be bitter, and who wouldn't in your shoes?

madamemuddle · 26/09/2014 09:14

I really admire your composure. You are handling this so well.

Very best of luck, spring. You deserve far better than this. Flowers

BlueBrightBlue · 26/09/2014 09:21

Seems to me Spring that you made a rod for your own back by financially supporting yourself and your dd and not insisting you at least go 50/50 on expenditure.
I don't think he used you as a child bearing vessel though and I'm sure you were happy in the earlier part of your relationship. That said, people change and you became a drudge and he selfishly took you for granted.
I'm glad that you are financially independent and not " married" as this is going to make the splitting up process a lot easier for all concerned.
Stay strong OP and start investing in yourself and your dd for a change.

BlueBrightBlue · 26/09/2014 09:23

Have you thought about going back to work? Perhaps part time, it's time for a brand new start.

impatienceisavirtue · 26/09/2014 09:45

So sorry you're going through this OP- but kudos for dealing with an unpleasant situation with such dignity!

springchickennolonger · 26/09/2014 10:41

bright rod for my own back? Yes, maybe, but only in the benefit of hindsight. I believed myself to be doing the right thing at the time, though. Yes, I became a drudge but without help with childcare I didn't have a great deal of choice. I've always worked, though, doing something or another. Mainly bits of teaching/ cleaning/ shop work etc. I'm retraining now, though, and my efforts will pay off if I stick at it.

Thing is, if you're at home with kids, your priorities are with them. No-one else is going to pick up the slack unless you have family/ can justify paying for childcare.

I'm slightly cross with myself now, though. When I met dp he was unemployed, with no career plan. It was me who had career aspirations. I gave up my career when I had dd and stayed home whilst dp continued to develop his. He became a Chief Exec, lost his job and started a business with his redundancy money. So we lived on my income (not much!) whilst he got back on his feet. He's doing fine now but I can't help wondering where his money is going. It's not on me or dd, he has an old car, doesn't buy clothes and doesn't have much of a social life. He says it's going into the business but I can't help wondering if he's squirrelling it away for another purpose. I'm probably oversharing but I can't help wondering. He's very cagey about money, and tight as anything.

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Twinklestein · 26/09/2014 10:59

I'm sorry to read your thread OP, but having read your most recent posts regarding inequitable finances, I'm just so relieved that now you will give yourself permission to get away from him.

I'm horrified to hear that he had not been paying for clothes, holidays, birthdays and trips: he's not only selfish he's actually been costing you money.

I really hope you don't lose out further financially due to the split, it's a shame you're not married because then the assets would be split straight down the middle, and the fact the house is in his name wouldn't matter. I would talk again to a solicitor (you say you have done previously), and see what can be done about your contribution to the house.

Dowser · 26/09/2014 11:05

Ive always felt you were a strong and intelligent woman OP from your posts and I don't think you've been THAT unkind to your husband in your posts.

I've always felt you have maintained a balanced view of your situation.

I've had a similar situation to you and what I discovered was the tip of the ice berg.

You both could be so much happier on your own or with someone else and it's never too late once everything has calmed down.

Children are very resilient. My daughter who was 27 at the time said ' why didn't he sit us all down and just be honest. He led me a merry dance and was thoughtless towards her so she went NC on him for 6 years. They are speaking now but he lost the special relationship he had with his only daughter. If you handle the split well both of you should be able to maintain a good relationship with DD which is the important point here.

Good luck OP . It's going to be tough but please see the light at the end of the tunnel as no matter how bleak it feels it is there.

BlueBrightBlue · 26/09/2014 11:42

Agree with everything the Dowser has to say.
I really admire you for having such dignity!
It that were to happen to me I'd go ballistic.

borisgudanov · 26/09/2014 11:47

So he's a cocklodger as well? What a twat.

optimistikcolouristik · 26/09/2014 11:49

Spring, he sounds like a pest, a slug. My DS' partner is like that. Hardly spending any money on his child and food (he is so tight; lives like a tenant). He bought a property a few months ago to rent it out but just for himself (the saved money; the unpaid bills to name but a few). Some people are like that and it is pity my sis has wasted so many years on him. Our mum cannot understand just why.
It is time Sping to move on and start a new beginning. Good luck with everything. Your daughter will understand you. It is not only about her but also about you.

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