Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Relationships

Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

Help - found DH using porn

159 replies

cowbag1 · 14/09/2014 06:41

First time poster but long time lurker – I’ve never felt the need to post until now. Sorry this might be long!

So, to set the scene, I went in to work for a few hours yesterday. My DH dropped me off (I don’t have a parking permit at work and we car share anyway) and I asked him to pick me up at a set time (we only live 10 minutes drive from my workplace). I’m 7 months pregnant with our first baby.

When he didn’t arrive at the agreed time, I called him and he was still at home. He had apparently been asleep and his alarm hadn't gone off. He came straight out to get me; I was a bit miffed but he apologised profusely when I got in the car. Something didn’t sit right though and so with my (what I thought was) unreasonable, irrational pregnant head on, I asked him if he had been doing anything he shouldn’t. He was immediately quite defensive and we argued all the way home about me asking accusatory questions (he thinks it’s out of order, I defended my right to do so).

We didn’t talk much when we got in and he continued to be defensive. I went on the computer for a bit (to check mn etc!) and he had a window open on there with a game he had been playing. I haven’t felt the need to check his browsing history for years now (I had serious trust issues when we met 10 years ago) but something made me and sure enough, there was a porn site plus a Google search that he had used to find this site. Search term he used was “XXXX(porn star name) XXXX swallows”.

At this point I need to add that I am very anti-porn and he has always led me to believe that he is too. Him being into porn would have been a deal-breaker to me before we got married.

He strenuously denied that the history was him and insisted that we run an anti-virus scan on the computer (we have had viruses before, now I think I know why!) but the way the colour drained from his face told me otherwise. Also, I may not be a computer whizz, and he could have explained away the porn site as a pop-up but I know that the computer doesn’t randomly create Google searches! He continued to deny everything for a while until I made it clear that not telling the truth now would have serious ramifications for our marriage.

So, over the course of the evening, he admitted to looking at porn yesterday and masturbating. He also admitted that he had done it a few times since we got married (last August); although he says it was no more than a few times. He promises he isn’t hiding anything else (I asked him about cheating, strip clubs, sex phone lines or anything that involves payment) and I believe him (mainly because we share all of our money, have joint bank accounts etc and we spend all of our free time together so there isn’t much opportunity for him!).

He is absolutely devastated and petrified I will leave him. He says he feels better now it’s out in the open, felt horrible every time he did it and intended to stop when the baby was born (!). He says he will do anything to make things better and win back my trust. In all other aspects, he is a very decent guy and considered by friends and family as one of the nicest people they have ever met. Everyone thinks we have a fantastic, strong relationship.

I feel like my heart has been ripped out. I’m not upset about the masturbating (even though he hasn’t been honest about it) as our sex life has been quite poor for a while now and we haven’t managed to have sex since I got pregnant. It’s something that has been bothering me and we have discussed it a handful of times but he’s always assured me he still finds me attractive (despite showing it less).

I’m more upset about the way he denied it so strenuously (what else is he lying about?) and I’m horrified that he’s looking at porn. I feel like he isn’t the man I married and everything I have based my love for him on is a lie. I’m always telling myself that he is one of the few decent men out there and I feel sorry for those women whose husbands look at porn. I feel utterly ridiculous that I have actually been one of those women all along.

I’m not sure why I’ve posted; I just don’t know what to do (and I can’t sleep!). If we weren’t married and expecting our first baby, I would be strongly considering leaving him but I absolutely will not have my baby growing up with divorced parents (like I did) so I feel trapped. I just can’t get past this.

What should I do? My opinions on porn will not change; I am about as strongly opposed to it as it’s possible to be! How can I trust him again and stop feeling like all men actually are bastards after all.

OP posts:
Cinnamon73 · 14/09/2014 22:36

How helpful.
Hope you feel better after that patronising rant.

Fairenuff · 14/09/2014 22:38

I don't think OP said she had a problem with him masturbating did she?

It's just the lying.

If others don't mind their partner lying to them then fine, it's your life, but this thread is about the OP's partner lying to her which very much is a problem for her.

Ivehearditallnow · 14/09/2014 22:40

It's not a rant I'm genuinely baffled that OP is this upset - sounds like the real issues here are about her parents' divorce and I can thoroughly sympathise with that.

But any way, as you were, carry on bra burning and congratulating yourselves about how real men don't need porn and listing your 'deal breakers' etc.

Seriously OP - keep talking to DH. But listen too x

Ivehearditallnow · 14/09/2014 22:41

He probably lied because he doesn't think it's a big deal and it's his own business! What was he meant to do - keep covering it up? At least now it's out in the open they can talk about it.

Fairenuff · 14/09/2014 22:52

I am very anti-porn and he has always led me to believe that he is too. Him being into porn would have been a deal-breaker to me before we got married.

It might not be a big deal to him, but it is to OP and he knew that before they married. She was clear with him that she did not want to be with someone who watches porn. She was perfectly honest and upfront with him.

SevenZarkSeven · 14/09/2014 22:59

I am finding it baffling that so many people apparently believe that men can't wank without porn to look at.

Equating "I don't want him to use porn" with "I don't want him to wank".

How peculiar.

SevenZarkSeven · 14/09/2014 23:03

I also find it disturbing how many people think it is normal for a person to lie totally about something very important to them, in order to be in a relationship with them.

Is it because it's porn?
If he was a closet racist, or a closet UKIP supporter, or a closet carnivore, would people give the same responses, if the OP was in a diametrically opposed place and he had always said he was too?

Say she was a hunt saboteur and found a brace of fox-tails in the back of his wardrobe? And he admitted that actually he loved the thrill of the hunt and the chasing down of the fox and the blooding and all the rest of it. What then?

Don't understand it.

It seems a lot of people lack empathy, lack the ability to put themselves in another person's shoes?

Opinionated7 · 15/09/2014 00:59

I think you've got yourself into a viscious cycle OP, your husband can't open up to you because you will treat him like a child, but if you find out he hasn't been honest with you, you treat him like a child. If that makes sense.

So on that basis what is he meant to do? You're saying that it's the lying that has broken your trust but if he hadn't lied you would still react the same.

Make him feel like he can be open and honest with you without the repercussions you're threatening.

As for the anti-porn, I've said it before and I'll say it again, I do not know one man that hasn't watched and masturbated to porn.

Where do you think men got the ideas to do most of the things you women love in the bedroom?

getthefeckouttahere · 15/09/2014 01:33

hey cow bag,

i totally get where you are coming from. YANBU (even though i hold diametrically opposing views on porn to you).

He indulged in an activity which he knows you find appalling and then compounded it by lying to you about it. It really does utterly stink of 'i really don't give a shit about you or your values'. I particularly don't like the way he has always agreed with your views. (obviously that was just a total crock of shit.)

Not sure where i would go with this from here, i agree with the others that you controlling his behaviour is a complete non starter. i Think you either accept that he will carry on with this behaviour telling him that you never want to hear or know about it, or you decide that you just can't live with a person with such divergent views to yours. Whilst this sounds extreme you would i suspect not have gotten into a relationship with him in the first place if you knew he was a porn user.

FWIW i dont believe that he will stop looking at porn

CuttedUpPear · 15/09/2014 07:10

OP I'm so sorry that this has happened to you and I understand your upset.
This happened to me and it has changed the way I feel about my DP forever.

CuttedUpPear · 15/09/2014 07:14

I quote this from a recent thread about porn use, which sums up my feelings:

The point is nobody needs porn, or to pay for sex. It bypasses all the social skills required to enable healthy relationships and thereby subverts it. It leaves in its wake pain, addiction, rape, abuse and slaughter.

Why bother, why risk human dignity for the sake of a quick orgasm?

Salene · 15/09/2014 07:26

The poor man has done nothing wrong , give him a break before you drive him away.

I don't care what anyone says all men do or have watched porn and if they tell you otherwise it's lies.

It's not cheating, it's not disrespectful , it's just what men do.

You might not like it but he does, he not doing it in front of you so leave him be.

GirlWithTheLionHeart · 15/09/2014 07:31

Are you still with him Cutted?

KristinaM · 15/09/2014 07:42

Salene -no, all men don't use porn . The same as all Muslims aren't terrorists. And all black men are not violent . And all Jews aren't rich . And all gay men are not promiscuous.

Please take your stereotyping elsewhere

It's not really helping the OP, she's only concerned about her husbands use of porn , not yours or anyone else's.

JohnFarleysRuskin · 15/09/2014 07:46

all men do or have watched porn - Which is it, do or have watched? Quite a difference there. Most people have smoked or got paralytically drunk. It's fair enough to say you don't want to live with someone who does that on a regular basis and to be shocked if you found out they did.

What's with the confusion of masturbation and porn here? Are you saying your partners are unable to get hard-ons or orgasm without watching porn? I would say that pointed to some deep-seated sexual problems. GP might help.

OP, your DH sounds likes a good man. Talk, talk and talk.

scallopsrgreat · 15/09/2014 07:48

He has done something wrong. He's lied to the OP.

"but you are treating him like a naughty child." She isn't treating him like a child Confused. She hasn't done anything about it yet. She stated her concerns about porn early in the relationship. He lied and said he agreed. She is now reeling in shock at the deceit. That's not abusive behaviour (at least not on the part of the OP).

About practically anything else he'd lied about then this thread would be up in arms. But because this is about the holy grail of men's orgasms then it's the OP in the wrong Confused.

If this was a dealbreaker before your marriage, cowbag, what has changed now?

CarryOn90 · 15/09/2014 07:55

everything I have based my love for him on is a lie. I’m always telling myself that he is one of the few decent men out there and I feel sorry for those women whose husbands look at porn.

Everything your have based your love for him on is a lie? So your entire marriage was based on the fact you loved that he didn't watch porn?Confused

The rest of that statement sounds like a hysterical overreaction, sorry OP.

CarryOn90 · 15/09/2014 07:57

Also I sympathise that he has lied to you, but you do not need to say that you feel sorry for others. I'm not married but if I was (let's assume happily) and my DH watched porn I would be insulted that you had said "I feel sorry for those women."

Fairenuff · 15/09/2014 07:59

Salene forget about the porn. It's not really about that. It's about the fact that he told a lie in order to get OP to marry him. It could have been about anything.

Obviously you are fine with your partner lying to you and that's ok if you are both happy with it, but OP isn't.

juditz · 15/09/2014 08:05

I think it is definitely true that men enjoy watching other people have sex. It's weird if they don't, frankly.

I don't know if it is porn as such that you don't like or the thought of your dh getting off to any images/instances of people having sex e.g. an 'incidental' sex scene in a film or overhearing the couple next door in a hotel having sex and getting randy from it.

See there is a difference.

ALL men experience sexual responses to others having sex; it's normal and natural.

It seems to be that it is not just porn (as in filmed planned sex for other's pleasure) per se but you want to wholly and completely control his sexual desire.

If this is a deal-breaker for you, then, good, he's better off without somebody who basically wants to put him in chastity 24/7.

Good luck with finding a man who doesn't enjoy the sight of two other consenting adults getting it on by the way because they do not exist.

Cat2014 · 15/09/2014 08:08

It's not an overreaction at all. I had to deal with the same thing- I wasn't pregnant but was up all night caring for our baby while my husband was on some dodgy porn site. Degrading and horrible. He knew I'd be devastated if I found out and still did it. Op - I feel for you and hope you can work through it. As others have said he sounds like a good man who has made a mistake rather than a pathological cheat and lier so I would definitely look to work through it rather than ltb, but I don't think you're overreacting and he needs to make it up to you.

lordnoobson · 15/09/2014 08:09

Never mind all men watch porn. Lots of women do too.

Cat2014 · 15/09/2014 08:11

Juditz - that's not the point. Your last paragraph is neither here nor there. Maybe it turns him on but if you're opposed to porn or you are saying you are for whatever reason, you can have enough self control to find other ways to get turned on surely. The point is that this had been previously discussed and he lied to the op. Not that 'it turns him on, so what'!!)

juditz · 15/09/2014 08:18

She has asked for opinions, Cat2014, and I do sense that it is not porn per se i.e. planned filmed sex for the titillation for others that gets her goat more that she alone can be the only person who turns him on.

Well that is uber-controlling to the nth degree and I must say cloud-cuckoo territory as I am certain that men-and women!- get turned on by incidental sexual experiences of others e.g. couple in next hotel room. Seeing a couple snog passionately.

He's better off without if this is the case. Plus she sound very controlling in other aspects yet naive. What a combination-naivety and control freakery combined.

Cat2014 · 15/09/2014 08:24

Yes I'm not saying you shouldn't offer an opinion, just that I disagree Grin
We have to take the op at face value and she says she's opposed to porn and he said he was too. So he lied. If he's so desperate to watch porn and upset her then maybe he shouldn't be with her. But that's not her fault! Not controlling- just every relationship has different ground rules and it sounds like he's shattered a well established one of theirs. And broken trust in the meantime.
Everyone compromises something for people they love, don't they? It's part of a relationship.