feelings on porn

[lollypop77]

Just wanted other peoples opinions on if they are ok with there partners/husbands watching porn regular ..do you get worried or wonder why they have the need to ??

would any percentage make it ok for you ?

No, only 0% harm inflicted would make wanking to images of that harm (or should I say enhancing my sex life ugh ...) acceptable to me. But you knew that. What say you ?

It destroys relationships, it becomes addictive very quickly, I hate it and I'm sorry to say I have lost all faith in men as a result and I find it very hard to believe there are men who don't use it.
At the end of the day I feel it is pretty disrespectful to your partner if you are wanking to porn rather than sleeping with them, and that isn't even going into the ethics which are terrible (& a slippery slope from what is "ok" to blatantly horrible woman hating material)

No, not "good for me"

I believe not wanking to images of possible abuse to be a basic human behaviour

nothing "good" about it, unless integrity is something completely alien to your life

& I say that as someone who has been very comfortable in the past even sharing with a partner who we found attractive or looking at sexy pictures together etc but I think that the instant gratification you get from the porn stimulus is unhealthy and naturally requires more extreme stuff to have the same effect the more you use it - this is scientifically proven. And then once he is addicted, he will even overstep boundaries of what you have agreed is okay and respectful in a relationship and lie etc just like any addict.
(Obviously I'm not denying its role in misogyny and the abuse of performers but making another point on why I think it is damaging to sexuality and relationships)

Considering you are only ever two clicks away from child abuse is a chilling thought and I cannot understand why anyone ever puts themselves in that position.

Dress it up how you will, explain it how you like, that's the reality of extreme pornography and that's what you are supporting and encouraging, minimising and excusing.

So why bother? Because you can't get excited with a real human being? Is it really that hard for someone to have real good sex with a real good person? I would be embarrassed to admit it to be honest.

The analogy with the clothing slave trade is a good one but that doesn't mean it's OK.

But what percentage of the people who made your stuff - whatever| your stuff - don't matter? What's an acceptable possibility level? How many factory workers producing smartphones on the minimum wage, sometimes bullied to the point of suicide, are unimportant compared to your need to have a smartphone? How sure do you need to be that your new t-shirt or trainers were not produced at least partly by indentured child slaves? You know that some of the workers who make your clothes and your technical toys are paid fair wages and treated well while some of them are exploited and abused, but how far do you go in terms of checking that your new purchase was produced under fair trade conditions?
What's the tipping point, and how much use is it to the people who are struggling within an industry that has an exploitation problem for a lot of comfortably off outsiders to insist that the whole industry is shut down?

One of the strands of feminist opposition to anti-porn activism was that some of the arguments against porn insisted that no woman participating in porn could be in her right mind, that she was making a 'bad' decision and therefore no contract she signed could be valid.

Goodness gracious me.

"we don't like wht you're doing so you are mad and incapable and we won't let you make this decision"?

How utterly controlling. This puts you well off feminism *(if it was all like that, Im sure it's not).

Fuck that for a game of totalitarianism.

Meerka, I think that very few feminists would subscribe to that.

SGB, I do see your point. But rape is the second worst adult on adult crime, after murder, and the idea that even one in a hundred films produced for someone's arousal and entertainment, features a deliberately arranged crime of this nature - ugh.

If one in a hundred horror movies that you downloaded from Netflicks featured someone really being tortured and killed, and there was no way to know which and no come back on the producers, could you watch them for fun? Because I couldn't.

How do you know categorically that horror film actors are bot being tortured or killed ?
The construction industry, even in the UK, has a poor record in terms of exploitation, injury and deaths. Much worse than the porn industry. Should we avoid using buildings ? What is the acceptable death rate for building usage ?

Because it's harder to dispose of a body than to persuade a raped woman to say nothing?

I actually wouldn't watch anything other than Hollywood horror (or similar) because yes, YouTube specials might be real.

Yes, people have died accidentally on film sets but it's not being filmed for my amusement. Maybe to you there's no difference; to me, there is.

Comparing a porn industry death to a construction industry death is just wrong. Women are coerced into it, whether by their own normalising due to early exposure, whether by a more subtle form of grooming with a dodgy boyfriend, or other women, you cannot say they choose it as a job like someone chooses to do a high risk job of work like construction.

And the clothing industry? Until very recently the general public just had no idea about the slavery involved in some countries. Whrpen it does get exposed people are horrified and task forces get set up with campaigners and government initiatives. The governments involved
are shamed and people boycott their products. Hopefully they will feel the same about abuse in porn as they do about clothing soon.

When you read a porn performer tweeting stuff like "just shot an amazing scene with so-and-so, now taking my Mercedes in for a service", its difficult for the average porn viewer to believe she (or he - because let's not forget half of these performers are male) has just been raped and is being coerced into a lifestyle of squalor and misery. Some of them really do seem to enjoy their profession.

....because people never brag, attention-seek or otherwise misrepresent their life on social media do they ?

Oh, wait....

HF, do you believe anyone anti-porn on this site has never watched any ? I prefer to make my mind up from a position of personal knowledge, cheers. It's also rather rude to call those personal opinions "ludicrous" when they are merely answering a question posed by you.

...and for someone calling others "hysterical" you did get a trifle excitable there

When you read a porn performer tweeting stuff like "just shot an amazing scene with so-and-so, now taking my Mercedes in for a service",

Wow. you actually follow porn performers on twitter and this kind of tweet makes you want to wank over them more?

It's a funny old world.

"Without any actual experience or anyone offering up some statistic ( other than the ludicrous 0% tolerance ) "

I don't understand why that's ludicrous? You are clearly comfortable with some number other than zero; others aren't.

Do you think that vegetarians are ludicrous for choosing 0% meat eating if they also own smart phones?