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lollypop77 · 10/09/2014 18:25

Just wanted other peoples opinions on if they are ok with there partners/husbands watching porn regular ..do you get worried or wonder why they have the need to ?? Hmm

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JustTheRightBullets · 12/09/2014 10:56

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NK346f2849X127d8bca260 · 12/09/2014 13:37

I believe my stbx's interest in porn led to him visiting prostitutes.
Destroyed our family unit, led him to a stay in secure psychiatric unit after a suicide attempt and left our 10
year old dd with PTSD.

HarmonicF · 12/09/2014 13:58

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Vivacia · 12/09/2014 14:02

I disagree with your premise, only this week I listened to a programme about the clothing industry and this very problem.

However, this is a thread about pornography.

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placidjoy123 · 12/09/2014 14:16

Vivacia, actually HarmonicF makes a very relevant point. The main thrust of the "against" argument on here is that -even if there is a slight chance that viewing porn could be associated with abuse and coercion then we should all just say no to the whole enchilada.

The opposing view is that while no one would condone the horrible extremes, it's not really realistic to simply implore everyone to boycott it in entirety.

JustTheRightBullets · 12/09/2014 14:19

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Vivacia · 12/09/2014 14:22

Ah ok then. I'm sure those 1000+ women who died , 2000+ injured last year in Bangladesh would be happy to hear it's all been fixed now on a program you listened to.

Sorry I wasn't clear. I mentioned this week's programme as evidence that this issue isn't being ignored. It was really interesting, and I learned that it's a far more complex issue than customers paying more for their clothes.

Your current argument is false, it is commonly known as relative privation. I.e. your argument is "Porn's ok because the fashion industry is worse". This is not a valid argument.

Vivacia · 12/09/2014 14:24

The main thrust of the "against" argument on here is that -even if there is a slight chance that viewing porn could be associated with abuse and coercion then we should all just say no to the whole enchilada

No. That argument, on both sides, is an appeal to probability. It is not a valid argument.

But this is all 'whataboutery', isnt it?

Snap.

placidjoy123 · 12/09/2014 14:25

Justtherightbullets and JohnFarleyRuskin you must be absolutely delighted that your stronger arguments are having such a powerful impact on the amount of porn being produced and viewed.

Vivacia · 12/09/2014 14:32

Is that the point you make about people speaking out against child abuse?

JohnFarleysRuskin · 12/09/2014 14:35

You must be absolutely delighted that porn-makers are producing more and more hard-core porn featuring more violence and coercion against women in line with porn users demand for more and more stimulation.

You must be delighted that in the UK most kids get to see porn before they've even had a kiss or sex-ed lessons.

Does that make you feel good, placid?

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Vivacia · 12/09/2014 15:23

Please would you clarify your argument then?

I agree with Bullets your honesty about accepting the negatives of porn is refreshing.

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Vivacia · 12/09/2014 15:47

Yes, I'm lost. I interpreted the conversation as this,

Viv - "Watching pornography is unacceptable"

Harmonica - "So is buying fashion clothes"

Viv - "Perhaps, but that's not an argument that makes porn acceptable"

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lurkernowposter · 12/09/2014 15:52

JohnFarleyRuskin-my own opinion is that some women can't stand the thought of their partner watching porn because he's being turned on by another woman, even if she's just some fantasy figure on a screen and that's why they come on here looking for help. Some women are anti-porn, with good reason to be,

So while YOU think there is good reason to be anti-porn, you think the reason many women are anti-porn is because they are jealous of people in porn?
How...interesting.

Actually I didn't say anyone was jealous of people in porn, why would anyone be jealous of a porn star? You just twisted what I said completely!
How...typical.