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DH left me via an email

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INeedToEat · 09/08/2014 14:36

I was on holiday with the kids (alone), the day before we were meant to leave (yesterday) I get an email from DH of 13 years saying he has packed up and left. That he has got a flat somewhere but is first going away for over a week and his phone will be turned off. WTF. Oh and I can tell his son or he will tell him when he gets back. Now this isn't some wanker of a bloke, oh no - this one is one of the good ones usually. Hard working, rarely goes out, sober, kind and of course a good father yes really.

Our relationship to be fair could be better, we rarely properly talked and lead pretty individual lives - we have never discussed splitting up and never argue. No obvious signs of an affair but wouldn't be surprised.

I haven't eaten since I got the email. I have been in a haze , walking from one thing to another. I have told my son, he is beside himself particularly because of the no contact. It is killing me watching him in so much pain.

Any practical or emotional support welcomed. I can not think straight.

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brittanyfairies · 13/08/2014 18:39

Hi INeed I'm delurking to offer you support. Nearly two years to the day my ex-husband did this to me, phone call out of the blue that lasted 3 minutes telling he no longer wanted to be married to me and that he would not support me (that's how long it took to end a 20 year marriage). I was left to live in a foreign country of his choosing while he stayed in his job and flat in the UK. He turned off his mobile and blocked me, my family and friends on Facebook then changed his relationship status on Facebook to being involved with another woman. He thought I wasn't clever enough to work out how to see it.

In those two weeks I didn't try to contact him at all, I made myself busy by contacting solicitors and instructing them in a divorce, changing all the locks on the house and chucking his possessions outside in a trailer to go to the tip. They'd been rained on and ruined by the time he got to look through them.

He eventually showed up 4 weeks later to see the DCs, still denied there was another woman and told me that he would sort out the divorce on our behalf. I didn't let on to him at that point that I'd seen photos of him and the other woman cuddling up with her kids on his lap, while his own DCs cried themselves to sleep wondering where he was. He inadvertently revealed in that conversation that he'd been most pissed off that I hadn't even contacted him or begged him to come back. He also let slip that he'd come to my house earlier than the arranged time when he knew I wouldn't be there and had tried to get in but hadn't been able to because of the changed locks.(All these things gave me satisfaction that he hadn't received the attention he wanted from me). It still didn't stop him stealing stuff out the house when I wasn't looking when he went on trips to the loo and stuff. He's never been allowed to step foot in my house again and I try to do change overs in a public place, but he still sneaks to my house when he thinks I'm not there to try and snoop through the windows, it's bizarre behaviour.

He arrived back in the UK that weekend to have divorce papers waiting for him naming the other woman, he was not happy. He thought he'd been so clever swapping from me to the OW and me not knowing.

Since that phone call two years ago my life has become so full and happy. I'm no longer lonely and I smile again - I didn't realise how unhappy I was in my marriage until it was over. Life has gone from strength to strength and while he's still with the OW I don't know if he's happy, he's always moaning and whinging at me when he contacts, he seems very jealous of the life I'm creating for me and the DCs. He's since filed for bankruptcy and lost pretty much everything. He's being forced to sell the flat we owned in the UK because he can't take my name off the mortgage.

He does bother very little with the DCs and that causes them great sadness. He's seen them for 33 hours this year and I've stopped keeping the mobile on charge after he didn't call them for eight weeks, it's been longer now, no calls, no emails. Oldest son has decided it's dad's choice not to see them, youngest son is upset about it and gets quite distressed when he dwells on it.

I cannot say how amazingly brilliant and supportive my family and friends have been they are the so fabulous and I love them all dearly, and we weren't even a close family but they have rallied round me since that day. I feel I'm wrapped up in love. So please let your friends and family support you. Some terrible things have happened to me in the last two years, my house was flooded in the storms in January and it's been completely trashed, but I've dealt with everything and even that hasn't made me feel as unhappy as I was in my marriage. The house is due to be rebuilt and the future looks rosy.

I too can now complete flat pack furniture (and dismantle it) and I'm learning to tile the bathroom now.

Good luck for your future, you are coping brilliantly. You and your DS have a great holiday.

FantasticButtocks · 13/08/2014 18:47

A glass of Wine to you brittanyfairies Bloody well done!

LEMmingaround · 13/08/2014 19:08

Another one delurking to say you are amazing!

What a fool cowardy cunt is.

Don't send the email. Let him wonder where you are. Tell your parents/anyone who he might ask not to respond d if he contacts them.

You are going to be fine x

BitOutOfPractice · 13/08/2014 20:08

"He arrived back in the UK that weekend to have divorce papers waiting for him naming the other woman, he was not happy"

Oh brittany that made me smile my head off Grin

Well done to you!

Vivacia · 13/08/2014 20:18

brittanyfairies you are absolutely brilliant.

Bagoffrogs · 13/08/2014 20:36

Ineedto - you're an inspiration. Your determination and braveness shine through and I shall be continuing to lurk in the coming days - my marriage has come to an end and I expect to be DH free by the weekend. Scary but slightly invigorating at the same time. Huge respect to you x

INeedToEat · 13/08/2014 20:37

Thanks all - Too knackered to respond to each one individually but know I am sorry for your pain. Thank you for sharing your stories - they bring me such strength.

I started by having a little cry surrounded by flat pack boxes and son comforting me for a few minutes. Then dried tears and said lets get on with this. I have sworn a few times but my son and I have just finished putting together a bed and a wardrobe!! Bed is fab but the order was slightly messed up for the wardrobe so I am going to have to wait for another piece to be delivered before I can finish it off.

Sister and her DH have done another dump run for me to get rid of the boxes. She goes away tomorrow!! Going to miss her she has been wonderful. Friend popped over this afternoon with her son (friends with mine) and kids had a play and some time together. Didn't bloody eat all day and felt like I was going to pass out. I have had a sandwich now.

Son will not know anyone at his new school - it is a selective school and none of his friends got in. I am worried about this - but most of the kids there will be in the same boat - hence why they go away on holiday as soon as they go to school - to team build.

I have a friend coming tomorrow night for a visit and a different friend coming for drinks on friday. Friend who was here today has invited me and son to hers for lunch / son can play, on Saturday and will even come and pick me up if i am not up to driving. Friends have been amazing and I haven't even told all of them yet.

Will think about someone appropriate for son to talk too - they may even have a councillor at the school when he starts.

One thing I would kind of like to point out. Coward will not be surprised that I have done all this when he gets back. He knows how capable I am. I have always done flat packs, painting and decorating, laying floors etc.

I suspect, like me going no contact - me coping is exactly what he will love. Then he wont have to feel so bad! In some way if I was falling apart and begging him to come back then he would feel bad - if that makes sense Help me to think this through if you can please.

Bath and wine for me ... will pop back on later

KOKO

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Vivacia · 13/08/2014 20:42

I think that the surprise will come in the longer term. He may expect you to cope, but will he expect you to flourish and have a wonderful new relationship and lifestyle in five years' time?

JenniferJo · 13/08/2014 21:04

Another delurker filled with admiration for you. Wine

catsrus · 13/08/2014 21:06

you need to detach. Stop thinking about how he will feel about what you do - it doesn't matter, detach detach detach. The opposite of love is not hate - they are too close in nature, both about passion, the opposite of love is indifference. You are learning to be indifferent about how he feels and what he does.

What you do is for you and your ds. Will not coping be better for you two? of course it won't. It will take time and practice - fake it until you make it - but I promise that life will be so much better once you make that final transition to true indifference. If you are making choices based on how you think he will react then you are allowing him control over your life. It doesn't matter whether he is happy or not about you coping - because the only thing that matters is your life with your son now.

mummytime · 13/08/2014 21:14

Do tell his new school, email now (someone will be picking up email). At the very least the Pastoral team will make themselves available to talk to and can give him a little leeway. (My DC's Grandma died whilst we were on holiday just before DS started secondary, his new school were fabulous.)

Well done for the flat packs. DS (or his sisters) and I try to do them without DH, as we get less annoyed with them than he does.

A good way to let everyone know is to tell the biggest gossip you can find and let her "let other people know for me".

ravenmum · 13/08/2014 21:24

When I've emailed my husband saying I can't manage and asking for his help, he's not replied, or only replied about something unrelated. I reckon that he thinks I'm just putting it on to make him feel bad or to get his attention. (For example I'd come out of hospital after an operation and was unable to go shopping for the kids. We never heard from him for two weeks. Later he said he didn't realise the operation was that bad.)

However you act, he'll see it the way he wants to see it. You say you're falling apart? You're a manipulative attention-seeker. You call him names? You're an abuser. You act politely? You're an ice maiden. You act normally? You never loved him or you'd be hurt. Like catsrus says, you shouldn't be considering him at all when deciding how to act as he shouldn't have any power over you. But even if you do, it won't work.

WellWhoKnew · 13/08/2014 21:24

This troubles me:

me coping is exactly what he will love. Then he wont have to feel so bad! In some way if I was falling apart and begging him to come back then he would feel bad - if that makes sense

If he loved you being a coper - why the fuck did he leave?

A few of us recently had this discussion on sudden abandonment, and I'm pointing this out to you because SA is just so bewildering. You may find some answers in there.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/a2119778-Has-anyone-else-experienced-spousal-loved-one-abandonment?msgid=48141466

He fell in love with you because you are a strong woman. He's trying to 'get through to you' that he needs you to be the woman you cannot be, that is as insufficient as he is.

You're built a little differently to him.

He is a coward.

For me, the proof is in the pudding: it's exactly THAT, that is making my divorce so acrimonious.

I don't know if that answers your question.

ravenmum · 13/08/2014 21:29

And he won't even know you've done anything unless he sees your son and he brings it up, right? He's not going to be hanging about in your house. If he decides he wants to see his son, he can pick him up from the doorstep. Do you have a chain for the front door?

enriquetheringbearinglizard · 13/08/2014 21:46

Exactly, it really doesn't matter what he thinks, it's no longer anything to you.
FWIW everyone has issues with flat pack furniture, it's meant to be a challenge, it's no fun if you get all the right parts, all the right predrilled holes and all the bits . Well, that's my take on it.

Ineed don't worry too much about school. Changing school and going up is always a challenge, for all children. My DD had all her friends going with her, but they still ended up making new friendship groups. That's just par for the course. It's a transition, your DS will be fine, honestly. Children are far more resilient than you imagine when they need to be.

Wine Thanks to you OP and Brittany, when the going gets though and all that, you just don't know how tough you are until you need to be.
KOKO.

DannyBoy10 · 13/08/2014 22:05

I've just seen this thread and just wanted to add my admiration on how well you're coping.

I know it's hard, but try not to second guess what your ex is going to do or think. It doesn't matter. What matters is your son, and looking after yourself so you can look after him. It sounds to me like you're doing all the right things and your son will be fine. Starting a new school might even be good, as it will offer a distraction.

WellWhoKnew · 13/08/2014 22:12

PS, I suspect you're moving from the shock/denial stage to the 'totally fucking devastated stage'.

KOKO - and look after yourself. You're not alone.

LEMmingaround · 13/08/2014 22:19

I read somewhere that the best revenge is a life well lived.

springydaffs · 13/08/2014 22:58

Re new school - it may well work in his favour as his peers wont know what has happened and he'll be able to go incognito about it. My son started a new school just before his father unexpectedly died (we were divorced), and it was a huge relief to my boy that his peers didnt know about it - he didn't want to be known as the boy whose dad had died. The right people knew though, the staff, and they were fantastic, a tremendous and heartfelt support, so kind. They understood that my boy needed his privacy protected while he grappled with his loss, and their support was very sensitive.

Let the school know in advance of the start of term, ask your boy how he would prefer it to be handled and inform the school of your boy's wishes (perhaps more detail when you meet eg his housemaster/head of year/equivalent) - the school will probably ask how you/he would like it handled. I do think it will give your boy a fresh focus away from this sorry, cowardly mess; somewhere to zone out about it.

You are doing marvellously Flowers

FrontForward · 13/08/2014 23:14

I'm a coper and I too think this suited the ex because he felt guilt free being a waster. The alternative would be to be weepy and needy and ...but he'd still be a waster and I'd just be humiliated.

Be strong.

I totally agree with the detach, detach comment. You have to consciously force yourself to stop thinking about him, what's he thinking, why did he, what will he, when will he.... All contact is now centred around you and your DC. What, why, when suits you. He fits in around that because he's opted out

INeedToEat · 14/08/2014 00:12

Thank you all. EXACTLY what i needed to hear. God you lot are so spot on. Wellwho... I know where you are coming from. Thank you.. Thank you all. I was over and understood the no contact (thanks to you all) and now I understand that either way it will make no difference.

You wonderful wonderful people, I am knackered, mind, body and spirit. KOKO and keep posting, good or bad. Any any of you who are going through this ... please write your own posts and get the love, support and advice that is here x x I couldn't recommend it enough.

OP posts:
BitOutOfPractice · 14/08/2014 00:21

I wish I had been brave enough to post when my world collapsed INeed

Night, Hope you sleep well

FrontForward · 14/08/2014 05:22

The internet was a fledgling when my relationship first floundered. Seem so long along and I did think it was the end of the world. Today I'm really happy and like being me

INeedToEat · 14/08/2014 10:06

Was asleep by 12.30am, woke up at 6.30am but got back to sleep until one of the cats sat on my head at 9am. Slept well.

I have re read all your words this morning. Over and over again. Much better for me than re reading emails from coward (which I have not read since Sunday). Spoke to son again last night - he says he is feeling very angry at his dad and no decision about contact yet.

I do not have a chain on my door. However, I am 6 foot and can look after myself.

Bagoffrogs - feel free to send me a private message if you like.

Losingmyreligion I am so, so sorry for your loss.

To Do List:
Today
Spend today mainly chilling out.
Book Holiday and train tickets.
Cook a decent meal for son/s.
Follow up wardrobe.
Noticed a few other of cowards items - bag up and stick in shed.

Tomorrow
Dye hair !!

Do washing needed for holiday
Chill with friend

Sat
Go to friends for lunch
Buy some more E liquid so I have enough for holiday ( I gave up smoking about 5/6 weeks ago. Amazingly I have not gone back to the stinkys)

Hopefully wardrobe part would have arrived - finish it.

Sun
Pack !

KOKO xxx

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ChickOnaMission · 14/08/2014 10:16

INeed I admire you so much for how you are deling with this. I wish I had the strength you do.

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