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Dating thread 77

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neiljames77 · 20/07/2014 03:26

Just got in from my holiday and saw that 76 was full. Smile

OP posts:
FolkGirl · 31/07/2014 21:08

I think it might be over Sad

We had a rather frank exchange of views earlier.

The weekend is off.

But it's ok, because I've already made plans to see friends...

I don't know.

MyChildDoesntNeedSleep · 31/07/2014 21:20

haha Neil, I knew that would be a headbanging emoticon!!

Well if you lot would stop being so WEIRD maybe we'd understand you! Grin

FolkGirl · 31/07/2014 21:35

Before I posted that last message before I read yours.

I think you are absolutely right. In everything you have said.

Please don't apologise for being blunt. You know I've respected and appreciated your frankness over the past few months Smile

To be honest, I think this bamboozled me a bit. There was clearly something that wasn't sitting right with me, but I didn't know what it was.

I don't even think he's malicious. I think we just want very different things and we want our lives to look different.

dippinmytoe · 31/07/2014 21:48

It just goes to show folk that gut feelings are true.. but it was you doubting yourself , when all along it was him.. have a fab weekend with friends.. you have good memories ... dating past 30 is crap !!

MyChildDoesntNeedSleep · 31/07/2014 21:53

Aww, dippin, don't say that! These are the best years of our lives! Loads of older women I have told me this...."I had a ball...my shorts got shorter and I felt the most confident I ever have".

Folk what do you think you want to do?

MyChildDoesntNeedSleep · 31/07/2014 21:54

skirts, not shorts! Hmm

BeforeAndAfter · 31/07/2014 22:08

Folk

I am so sorry that it's turned out like this but I do feel a sort of relief on your behalf. You knew something wasn't right. You hadn't got all of the facts to hand so you were floundering around (as were we) searching for the right shaped fact to fit the gap you thought you had.

As it turned out none of us could have imagined what the problem actually was and I truly do believe there is nothing you could have done to change the outcome and there is nothing about you that caused the outcome - it really is all him.

Well I guess you now know why he is still single - it sounds like he's never actually given himself properly to someone, if you ask me. He's always lived behind a protective construct which doesn't sound terribly enticing to me.

I'm so glad you're spending the weekend with friends. I'm thinking of you as I am sure are a lot of people on this thread.

SingleSock · 31/07/2014 22:11

Super quick update: I really like him! Best date so far Grin.

Bigbird01 · 31/07/2014 22:18

folk I think 'controlling' is the right word. My ex would never 'stop' me from doing stuff, but did make it clear when he was unhappy. Over the years this affected my behaviour (not consciously) and by the time I left him I had absolutely no social life.
I feel awful saying that as I have been a big supporter of you dismissing your fears up until now, please don't let this prevent you seeking happiness in the future - remember how it feels to have love.

Tisahardlife · 31/07/2014 22:18

This is my first ever MN post, though I have been lurking on the dating thread. Thank you all, you have made my journey so much easier without even realising it :-) (Sorry, that's probably a bit odd for those of you on here, but this thread has been invaluable to me).

I have been a single mother for 1 year now, I have been played for 6 months of that which really messed with my head. My ex (children's father, together for 13 years) can be difficult at times around contact meaning that it is hard to have guaranteed free time from the children in which to date.

In the last few months I had a go at OLD. Match didn't really do anything for me (I think my profile was a bit crap though) I gained a sext text man who kept agreeing to meet but never did, so stopped texting him (lesson learnt). I then went onto Plenty Of Fish (the paid for one, I am picking up that there are 2 POF?) Had more success ie chatting to a few, now have a lovely email friend who lives too far away for anything to come of, shame. I had a couple of 'dates' with men who claimed to be 10 years younger than they were :-/ (one of whom I had quite liked through text and phone conversations before meeting him and finding out he had lied about his age and was quite rude to the staff at the pub...totally up himself).

So to where I am today...I chatted to and met a lovely man from the site. We first met about 6 weeks ago, got on brilliantly, he was perfect for me. Things soon became sexual and OMG it was the best sex I have ever had! (Sorry TMI). However, a couple of weeks after I met him he became depressed (he says he has a history of depression, I can do depression I have been there and am currently on AD's), I have noticed a definite difference in him since this time, he has really withdrawn with text and phone contact and there is a difference in the way he talks.

He has been single since December after his wife had an affair (the OM now lives in his old home with his family, ouch). Contact is up in the air, his ex is difficult about him seeing their child, he is self employed with work coming out of his ears and just doesn't have much spare time.

The texts have reduced right down as have the phone calls, but when I see him things are great, but because of tiredness brought on by his low mood, his work commitment and grabbing time with his child when he can, competing with my work and childcare commitments it is quite difficult to get together. I last saw him on Sunday afternoon for a catch up in a bar local to him, before that he came to mine for 3 hours the Saturday before. Prior to that it had been almost 3 weeks as he had had a holiday, so no real pattern.

When I am with him it is great, but I am really struggling in between as contact has dropped so low. The thing is the 'Player' I had, used to use contact withdraw as a 'punishment' if I said/texted anything he didn't like. So this new guy going quiet due to depression, being busy etc I am struggling with as it is triggering the way I felt with Player (rejected).

Anyway, I don't really know what I am asking, as there seems to be a couple of things. Firstly, how do I separate Player from the current man in my head and stop projecting feelings onto him around the meaning of him going quiet? Secondly, last night I sent a text saying I was worried about his lack of contact and what that meant. He replied that he was just so busy and tired and had stuff on his mind etc, he said he was worried about himself (depression wise). I then sent a text saying that I need to know where I stand with him as I am confused. He sent a polite text back reiterating that he thinks I am lovely, he doesn't want me to feel bad, he's under pressure and has personal issues to deal with he said that he doesn't have any fixed plans for anything and prefers everything to be a natural process, wherever that leads too.. I am now regretting sending the text as I feel it was me being paranoid, whereas I genuinely don't think he has the time or head space for much right now.

I am not convinced that he is in a place to be looking for a relationship, Basically I need to chill, I'm concerned that I have blown it by putting pressure on him when he has asked me not to due to his depression.

I feel a bit out of my depth, my head says move on, he is not in the right place to be dating, but my heart really, really wants him, we are so good together, and I can really imagine us together. I sent a text late morning apologising for being as heavy as I was last night and hoping he is ok. I have heard nothing. I just can't really see the woods for the trees. I want to give it a go, but not sure that will happen and that makes me feel sad.

Any wise words in that jumble?

Tisahardlife · 31/07/2014 22:24

Folk, I'm sorry, things seemed good for you too, but he's turned out to be not such a good character afterall.

Singlesock, so exciting :-D

FolkGirl · 31/07/2014 22:33

dippin I know. I will never doubt my instincts again. Ever.

MyChild Honestly? I want him. But what he wants and what I need are incompatible. It would mean that I would always have to choose between him and the rest of my life and never the twain shall meet. I can't do that.

Before Once again I think you are spot on. Sad, but there you go. I think there is probably part of him that wants it. But just doesn't know how to 'do' it. Oh well.

BigBird Thanks Smile to be honest, I think I'm just going to spend a bit of time being kind to myself. Do some jobs around the house and garden I've been putting off. Lose that stone and do some exercise. I feel ok at the moment because it's all logical and the emotion hasn't hit me yet. It will. But while I can logic it away, I'll be ok... Wink

It was brilliant though. My whole weekend is filled because I texted someone telling them I was now free on Saturday and the grapevine has sorted me out for pretty much the whole weekend. Those are the sort of people I need in my life. Smile

FolkGirl · 31/07/2014 22:42

Tis Thanks. I don't think he's a bad'un. Just that we're not right for each other.

As far as your man goes... I suspect you might not be strong enough to manage a relationship with someone who has depression. Are you sure this is what you want when you have so much else going on in your life? And I say that as someone who's been on ADs on and of for over 20 years with a history of depression and anxiety.

Singlesock that's fab news Grin

dontcallmehon22 · 31/07/2014 22:49

Tis it sounds tough and it's early days too. I'd back off, keep busy and let him come to you.

Folk your instincts were spot on there. I guess when we feel insecure, there is often a reason behind it, even if we can't quite articulate what the problem is yet. I'm glad you've filled your weekend. You're doing the right thing. Love is not something you say, it's something you do. It's a lesson I had to learn and it's something I live by,

single so glad it's going well! Yay!

Mr Teacher has confirmed tomorrow. He seems lovely. My only worry is he's into folk music and I'm more into house, so we may be musically incompatible..

FolkGirl · 31/07/2014 22:54

dont Absolutely.

Oh and if it doesn't work out with Mr Teacher, send him my way. I like a bit of folk... Wink

dontcallmehon22 · 31/07/2014 22:56

Haha! I will bear that in mind folk

Fingers crossed - really hope I like him. I'm due a good'un

Tisahardlife · 31/07/2014 22:56

Don't, Thank you, I think you are right about backing off, it's just so hard when I want to just sort things out and know where I stand. I really care for Mr Confused, but he is having such a difficult time and I don't want to add pressure to that. Likewise I need to take care of my own mental health, for my children's sake if not my own.

Does it matter if you and Mr Teacher are into different music? The world would be a boring place if we all liked the same things...

Folk, you may be right, it's just I have never met anyone quite like him, he seems to really care, and OMG the sex, I think I am addicted to him!

I am so glad you have such a strong friendship network who are occupying you this weekend. Baby steps and all that.

How do you highlight someones name on here when you are speaking to them?

And thank you for being so welcoming :-D

FolkGirl · 31/07/2014 22:59

asterisk their name asterisk

but without the spaces.

Tisahardlife · 31/07/2014 23:02

folk seeing if it works :-)

Tisahardlife · 31/07/2014 23:03

Folk thank you, I can now put names in bold :-)

FolkGirl · 31/07/2014 23:04
Smile
dontcallmehon22 · 31/07/2014 23:05

Just put the key around their name tis*. Yes I think backing off would give you both space and hopefully it might ease the pressure. Sex is vital for a relationship. I always think if that's good, it means you have amazing chemistry - which is a great start.

Yes I can live with Mr Teacher's different musical taste if he's as lovely as he sounds. He's taking me for dinner. My friend keeps giving me instructions. Things like: 'Remember to breathe. If you don't breathe, you'll drink' and 'stay calm. Your moods are up and down. Remember to be a creature unlike any other.' So I whatsapped her a picture of a pigeon and a cocktail glass to symbolise me, the creature unlike any other.

I will be a woman of mystery tomorrow.

I will have three drinks only.

dontcallmehon22 · 31/07/2014 23:05

Just put the key around their name tis*. Yes I think backing off would give you both space and hopefully it might ease the pressure. Sex is vital for a relationship. I always think if that's good, it means you have amazing chemistry - which is a great start.

Yes I can live with Mr Teacher's different musical taste if he's as lovely as he sounds. He's taking me for dinner. My friend keeps giving me instructions. Things like: 'Remember to breathe. If you don't breathe, you'll drink' and 'stay calm. Your moods are up and down. Remember to be a creature unlike any other.' So I whatsapped her a picture of a pigeon and a cocktail glass to symbolise me, the creature unlike any other.

I will be a woman of mystery tomorrow.

I will have three drinks only.

dontcallmehon22 · 31/07/2014 23:06

Oops!

Tisahardlife · 31/07/2014 23:10

Haha Don't I reckon Mr Teacher is gonna be a good un (you go for tall men too...we'll get on ;-) ) Let us know how it goes.

I'm virtually sat on top of my phone hoping for a text. We usually have daily contact, but clearly not today :-/ At what point is it acceptable (and not too needy) to send a 'hope you're ok, thinking of you' type text? Can I get away with it tomorrow evening?

So frustrating, I have a child free weekend and no one to spend it with, just a load of anxiety :-/

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