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Who's Desperate and Awful Now....Story of My Divorce from Mr WT...Part 2....

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MrsC1969HJ · 19/07/2014 20:44

Having reached a 1000 posts, I can hardly believe we are moving onto Thread 2...I have had the most amazing ongoing support from so many and I will always be eternally grateful. Link to Thread 1 www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/2030270-PLEASE-HELP-DESPERATE-AND-AWFUL-DIVORCE?

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CharityD · 01/04/2015 00:01

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TheFormidableMrsC · 01/04/2015 00:16

CharityD, I am confused, I am grateful for everybody who has posted on my thread and hope that I have made that clear to all. If I haven't I do apologise! Thank you for your good wishes.

TheFormidableMrsC · 01/04/2015 00:17

RandomMess, thanks so much for your lovely message! I am sure there will be a new thread if when that happens Wink

ptumbi · 01/04/2015 08:49

How strange CharityD - you've posted twice!?

MrsC - I don't think I've added much to the thread either, but I don;t expect thanks for it. Grin

Clutterbugsmum · 01/04/2015 08:55

Me either, ptumbi.

TheFormidableMrsC · 01/04/2015 09:04

I did wonder if it was meant for a different thread! I was a bit confused, as you all know, I am beyond grateful for the support I have received here and every single message has been gratefully received, without exception! Including yours, ptumbi and Clutterbugsmum..Flowers Smile

ptumbi · 01/04/2015 14:47

It's been deleted now. i do feel sometimes that I am posting in invisible ink, sometimes, but that is the nature of the internet. (not on your thread MrsC!)

Grin Thanks for the thanks.... !
TheFormidableMrsC · 01/04/2015 15:33

Oh! How strange! I have really tried to acknowledge everybody, even if it's a general one after lots of messages! ptumbi...you're very welcome Grin

TheFormidableMrsC · 03/04/2015 21:36

Hello all, I thought I'd check in. Bail conditions mean that any anticipated fuckwittery has not yet materialised and the week has been quiet. Except in my heart and head. The crash, when it came was brutal. Tears flowing at the most inconvenient times, school run, Sainsburys, general conversation with staff in shops....the list is endless. Think I gave up on mascara in the end. Not quite cried out yet but it has lessened. Have really struggled with kids this week and now we're on Easter hols so that's not going to get any easier! On a happier note, I am now trying to make some plans for our future...but not sure I am quite ready for that yet.

Across I hope your brother is OK...thinking of you and PM if you prefer.

I am off to call WWK who has completed a 45 minute round trip to collect wine...Smile

I am hoping the rage, anger and hurt will start to subside...and of course, I have a voice now...and I will speak up! I hope they're ready for that. Have kept my counsel for long enough.

Have a lovely Easter everybody and will post with news as and when it arrives!! xxxxx

Hobbitwife001 · 04/04/2015 01:14

Happy Easter , lovely MrsC have a good one with your children, you deserve itEaster Smile

ptumbi · 04/04/2015 12:10

Happy Easter MrsC - and WWK! Easter Smile

bobs123 · 04/04/2015 12:25

Happy Easter MrsC . Hope you're feeling better. Forget mascara - it's over-rated!!! Get a lash tint instead Easter Smile

DaffyDuck88 · 04/04/2015 12:31

Another delurker sending her heartfelt congratulations for the astounding result in court. I have read and re-read the details numerous times. Go Mrs C & WWK! It really is remarkable how the support given on MN can translate into such wondrous results & friendships! You'll both be MN legends from here on in. Or maybe you'll make it onto the 4th plinth in Trafalgar Square?
And MrsC - tears are only natural, you've held it all together out of necessity for so long it was inevitable there would be a fall at some point. But its onward and upward now at whatever pace suits you. Do things that make you happy, find ways to bring a little joy into all your lives however small. You're in control of your own destiny now and such a capable, strong, intelligent and funny woman is sure to succeed. Wishing you a lovely Easter and every happiness from here on in. Oh and Wine and Cake and hey! theres no chocolate icon!

AcrossthePond55 · 04/04/2015 21:42

That emotional 'crash' is always brutal and at the most inconvenient time! But at least when it happens, it happens. Sometimes the waiting for it to happen is worse than the 'crash'. Onwards and upwards. I remember Easter Hols as being hectic, but usually some good memories are made then, too.

Brother isn't doing very well. He went through detox and I thought he was doing ok. Nope. After much toing and froing and my doing things for him, turns out he was still drinking. So, I guess I hit my breaking point. I told him that he could call me when he was sober and had a plan to stay sober, but not until then. It's been rough, but I realize that the 'caretaking' and the covering up I'd been doing for him was actually enabling him.

I hope you don't mind the 'derail', but I think I need to start saying these things 'out loud' instead of trying to hide it away.

acatcalledjohn · 05/04/2015 21:37

Happy Easter MrsC. Hope you and the DCs have had lots of chocolate.

Easter Grin
TheFormidableMrsC · 10/04/2015 22:32

Hi ladies (and the one random gentleman I am aware of!), I hope you all had a lovely Easter! I just thought it was time for an update as there have been some issues fuckwittery to deal with. Firstly Daffy, thank you so much for your lovely post, indeed thank God for MN and the friendships it has brought me, I am very lucky! Across, so sorry to hear that things are difficult still, of course I don't mind the "derail", rant away my darling, you never know who is around to offer advice or may have experienced something similar. It's been a while since your post, so maybe an update will tell us that things are better? Please do say Smile Flowers.

So, onto Mr WT. I am still struggling and full of anger, I need to find a way to channel that, I might start running again. It's just the bloody injustice of it all, you'd think that the ancillary relief proceedings would bring, well, relief, but they haven't, quite the opposite, odd really. Anyway, I shall deal with that in the fullness of time.

Have had an issue with MIL. I think she is absolutely fed up about to hang herself over the whole thing. I think that Mr WT has been shit stirring again but MIL is the master of discretion incredibly frustrating as she will never reveal what the other has said. No wonder she's stressed. I am at the point of withdrawing from the family as it were, it might be better all round.

Anyway, the order has arrived, now to be turned into a consent order at the expense of Mr WT. The same day (last Sat), DS returns from contact and attacks me, bites my boob, kicks me, hits his sister, then puts his thumb and forefinger together and says "I only love you this much" and then flings his hands wide apart and says "but I love daddy this much"...you can only imagine how fucking angry I was. He then, in the way a 4 yo does, tell me that OW says "Mummy is horrible and mean". Mr WT denied to his mother that this happened or that DS was even in the vicinity of OW but as he has forgotten what the truth is, I think I'd rather believe my son. This is intolerable. I could not contact Mr WT due to bail conditions but am absolutely livid. On Wednesday, Mr WT did not arrive for contact, no message, no nothing. Had a very upset DS. Today I found out he "thought" contact was cancelled. I suspect he had other plans....

Today I find out that Mr WT has "made an application"...for mediation...I suspect what this means is that he has gone to a solicitor about formalising contact with DS and the solicitor has suggested mediation. I doubt very much that he has told anything near the truth or that he is indeed solicitor number NINE. I am clearly not going to do that, he couldn't mediate last time and won't this time. I think he is trying to avoid a hearing as 18 months of abuse of me, the kids and his behaviour, let alone hers, will be scrutinised by the court. On Thursday, I met up with a lady I met at the court in January, so weird how you meet people, she had offered generous contact to her ex-twat and his OW (despite the considerable pain it caused her), he decided to go to court to increase it, very similar story to mine, he got his contact reduced to a couple of hours on a Sunday, no overnights and NO contact with the OW. Backfired entirely. This gives me hope.

Lastly, Mr WT is not going to be charged with malicious communications, the CPS felt he fell short (only just) of that. So, bail conditions have now ended. This means he has to grow a pair and communicate with me again. I was sort of disappointed but also in a strange way glad as it has caused so many problems. I understood from interviewing officer (who gave me the news before him) that he was going to speak to him and pull no punches. He said even the CPS man had described him as an "arsehole".

So, that's where we're at! All comments gratefully received. Sorry this is a bit "bitty", I've had wine Smile xx

WellWhoKnew · 11/04/2015 01:35

Hey you. The one thing no-one seems to mention is that the so called 'grief cycle' restarts the day after divorce (or Final Hearing - let's not get into semantics).

So you go back to 'shocked', then 'denial' then 'anger/guilt'. And anger is a long day trip. Moons of day-tripping.

The adrenaline of coping exits stage right, and the 'real' feelings come back. Hard.

It's a slog.

But we've been there, done it before. We know more now than we did before. But it's still a slog. The cycle this time is shorter.

Anyway.

KOKO. And imo, 'no' to mediation. I met the man. He's a twat. He can't negotiate. Let him take you to court.

I'll bring pineapple.

From now on "Project MrsC" is to make MrsC happy. You lead, I follow.

Bogeyface · 11/04/2015 02:22

May I disagree with WWK on one point?

Agree to mediation on the basis that you know he will utterly fuck it up, not least because Pauline Calf will be on his shoulder, telling him all the wrong things. Then in court you are the person who did all the right things and he is the one who was a complete wanker. Every single time he has demanded anything, he has made a complete arse of it, he has actually made your case for you. In fact I am surprised he hasnt charged you for his legal expertise in fighting your case :o

Obviously, nothing will come from "mediation" but by being seen to play the game (again) you will still smell of roses. And dont forget that he will have to pay for the mediation, so lets see if is actually happens......Wink x

WellWhoKnew · 11/04/2015 02:37

Bogey - you disagree with my blessing. The more minds, the merrier.

Take care.

Bogeyface · 11/04/2015 02:42

We will take that bitch him down between us!

WellWhoKnew · 11/04/2015 02:46

I never have all the answers...but I know where to come to ask for wisdom.

MrWT is trying for redemption.

Yeah, we be short on supply on that right now.

Sucks, don't it? Wink

Bogeyface · 11/04/2015 03:08

Yeah, what a tragedy Wink :o

TheFormidableMrsC · 11/04/2015 11:24

Girls, I shall be back later to respond properly...you do make me laugh! He turned up 15 minutes late for contact. What a tosser, he lives about 7 minutes away at a push Hmm

bobs123 · 11/04/2015 11:39

Hi MrsC read your post last night but couldn't respond properly. Can't comment re mediation as others have better advice than me.

Just wanted to say I feel for you re DS and MIL. Unfortunately children can be manipulated really easily and all you can do is be there for them - it's tough Sad

Re MIL I guess she's had to step a fine line and she will have had conflicting stories from both of you. My stbx and I used to tell all to another couple who were our best friends. In the end they got fed up with it (and i probably talked overly much about it anyway to be fair) She worked with him (and I subsequently learned was also in love with him!) and he was his drinking buddy. So I left them to it.

Yes - get running! Any exercise is good for the soul and helps get rid of excess feelings Grin

AcrossthePond55 · 11/04/2015 23:31

I think every step in this 'journey' is a minefield of emotions. All you can do is pick your way care and hope that when you do step on an 'emotional mine' the explosion will be brief.

At this point all you can do is document DS's reactions and reinforce how much you love him. Mr WT and 'Petunia McShaggarse' are obviously going to be pouring poison when they can. It's what's so devastating about these situations. He said/she said and 'he's only a child, I never said that'. All you can do is mitigate their efforts with love and structure.

Didn't you already try mediation and it was a disaster? I've read about mediation where you don't actually face each other but there's a 'go between'.

No, my brother isn't doing any better. I've finally had to tell him not to call me until he's sober. Last night I had 21 phone calls within a half hour. I think I've realized that there's nothing more I can do. Everything I've tried hasn't worked, everything I've suggested he rejects. All I can do is pray for him. And as terrible as it sounds, I'm actually glad for once that our mother has dementia. This would absolutely kill her. As it is I've just told her he's working in another state, which she readily accepts.

But, I'll just put on a stiff upper lip, pack up my troubles in my old kit bag, and take myself to the sunny side of the street Grin. I do have much more to be thankful for than I have to complain about.