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Thinking of ending things with DP, because of other people's prejudice. Really need help.

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unbelievablyconfused · 10/06/2014 16:47

Hi

In a relationship with a woman (am a woman) and we've been together for a few years now.

Overall, I'm very happy with her. In the beginning, although it was a new world to me, as I'd always identified as straight, I was very confident and proud of our relationship. When we got looks or nasty comments, I genuinely didn't give a toss. I was/am too loved up.

As time goes on though, I'm finding it harder to deal with. The comments aren't constant, but we couldn't go out and hold hands without getting a lot of stares at the very least. It shouldn't bother me, but it does. I'm really ashamed to admit this.

She's perfect on so many levels. I love her so much and I can't actually believe that I'm considering bailing because of what others think and say.

I have a daughter, who's still in primary school and I really worry that she will be teased as well. I feel so much responsibility to keep her safe from bullies and I feel like I'm kind of fueling the fire by being in a same sex, albeit loving, relationship.

Due to several circumstances, we're supposed to be moving within the next month or so, but I'm getting cold feet. One reason is to actually get away from the bigots and move to a much more liberal and diverse area.

I don't want to leave her, but I find myself fantasising about a time when I didn't have to worry about what others thought and I could just go out and hold my ex's DP's hand because I was in a straight relationship. Nobody would judge me, or whisper and point. Although I have never been in love like this, life was easier.

Me and DP have even had to deal with phsycial abuse over our relationship. Usually it's just staring, tutting and things like that. Lost a few friends over it too. It certainly showed me who my friends actually were.

I know people will probably tell me that I should just hold my head up high and be proud, but it's so so hard and the pressure I feel right now to make the right decision is immense. This is, by far, the hardest decision I will ever have to make, because it's not just my future, it's my daughter's and she is the most important person in my life.

DP can't relate and thinks I'm massively over thinking this. I haven't told her that I'm actually considering leaving, but I've told her how hard I find it sometimes and how those feelings are gradually increasing.

Because we're supposed to be moving very soon, which means changing school too, I can almost hear the clock counting down, until I make my final decision. I feel sick with worry most days.

I honestly do feel like I'm heading for a breakdown. How do I stop caring about what others think?

Any advice? I'm so incredibly stuck.

TIA

OP posts:
CrotchMaven · 11/06/2014 21:51

Maisie, what does the term bisexual mean to you?

rootypig · 11/06/2014 21:53

oh I'm sorry you didn't like my 'implication' (I think the technical term is sarcasm)

I'll say it directly. It is ludicrous to prioritise concern about the general welfare of men in a patriarchal world and especially ridiculous to worry about them on a thread in which there is absolutely no indication that any men have been harmed in any way

Grin
Funnyfoot · 11/06/2014 21:53

What the holy canaries are you on about Masie?

I really have tried to read your posts but they are all over the place. I cannot see what actual point you are trying to make.

Are you homophobic?
Do you really believe sexuality is a choice?
Are you from earth?
Is somebody on Mars missing you?
Can I help in anyway in returning you to your home planet?

Maisie0 · 11/06/2014 21:55

Maybe I am the only one who see fairness in this world. Sorry for being obvious.

rootypig · 11/06/2014 21:58

Maisie if that is the case, surely you should be in charge? of everything? what do you think?

ouryve · 11/06/2014 21:59

You misread and then assumed - that's where you went wrong.

And, just in case it's not clear yet - you can be bisexual and married. These days, you can be bisexual and married to someone of the opposite sex or, even someone of the same sex. Most people, when they marry, are willingly committing to a period of monogamy. It doesn't change their sexuality. It doesn't make them dishonest about their sexuality.

AFAIK, there is no evidence of Gordon Bennett being bisexual.

rootypig · 11/06/2014 22:00

am actually almost weeping at that ouryve

IonaMumsnet · 11/06/2014 22:03

Right. My mouse hand is REALLY hurting now. Let's not let this thread descend into a zapped bunfight. The OP has had lots of good advice, but the thread is getting rather derailed. Let's get back to the question in hand.

rhetorician · 11/06/2014 22:06

I haven't read everything (and some of it I clearly don't need to read!), but a couple of things strike me OP. First, I wonder whether some of what you're experiencing is down to being someone who came out later - I remember a long period in my life where I felt the way you did, often felt anxious and concerned and certainly would have felt worried about having a child. But gradually I've become more adept at reading people and situations (one huge upside of being gay in a largely straight world/or the child of gay parents is that that you have to be pretty emotionally astute) and learned to avoid/disregard reactions that I can't cope with (not that it's infallible - i know there are parents in our very liberal school who don't really want to engage with me because I am gay - the downside of being emotionally astute!!).

The second thing is your daughter - if she is happy with you and your DP, I'd be reluctant (if it were me) to disrupt that. I don't know where you live, but location might be critical too. There is no substitute in my book for a child growing up in a household where his/her parents love, respect and support one another. However hard it is at times, why would you throw that away because of some fools? You don't say if you have family support (parents, siblings).

I wish you all the best - and FWIW I would stick with your partner who you clearly love and care for. Also, no life is perfect!

KneeQuestion · 11/06/2014 22:06

I pondered upthread as to what maisies understanding of bi-sexual was...I think like a few other things on this thread it is something she has hugely misunderstood.

Arsebadger · 11/06/2014 22:07

Am I being thick, I can only see two deleted posts and the one telling me to eff off hasn't been deleted

Funnyfoot · 11/06/2014 22:13

I liked your poem and thought it was artistic in it's content unlike the short but moving speech made by mrsm which was titled:

Arse
Fuck Off

Grin
Maisie0 · 11/06/2014 22:13

Knee Sorry, I wondered why people do not respond to people, but then they respond to "topic" which is half hanging in their own minds... I do wonder.

Sorry if I sounded alarmist but it is obvious that people did not care all that much for other peoples feelings overall.

I do not wish to respond to what you think I should know or should not know and how you think something is or is not. Sorry, I do not wish to be brainwashed. I have stood my ground and told what I intended. I leave all the other judgments, as well as hysteria to the people who wanted to play that kind of game.

To me, bullies exist everywhere in society and this thread shows it implicitly. That includes knowledge bullies too.

Arsebadger · 11/06/2014 22:16

funnyfoot Grin yet my poem gets deleted and her curse still stands!
I feel so sad
I'd feel more sad if Maisie was my friend and I asked her for advice on anything ever

Funnyfoot · 11/06/2014 22:21

Too late for the brain washing Maisie it has clearly already happened. Grin

Maisie0 · 11/06/2014 22:22

-I hope that the OP is watching the attitude problems of Arsebadger here and has throw away her diplomacy and empathy skills as a supposed open-minded person from an open-minded family.-

Maisie0 · 11/06/2014 22:25

Supposedly.
(Standing up for yourself is what matters in times of adversities. -"Knowledge" will send your "bullies" into submission because it promotes your ego.- )

Arsebadger · 11/06/2014 22:25

Maisie, disagreeing with you doesn't give me an attitude problem. It gives me a brain.
And if I'm being rude to you, it's not because my mum is bisexual. Stop being homophobic again.
I was brought up to stand up to bullies and I've stood up to you and you hate it. I am open minded and I will fight tooth and nail to help have an open and tolerant society.
If you don't like my posts, I suggest you remove yourself from this threat. Or mumsnet. Or the internet.

Maisie0 · 11/06/2014 22:27

-Calling someone a name to defend themselves even though nobody was attacking is not really displacement or projection at all. Because if they were at peace with themselves then the anxiety would truly not appear. As you could see for yourself what people write, say and do, is really a true reflection of their mentality inside and their own hearts as well.- I do hope that you find peace OP.

rhetorician · 11/06/2014 22:28

I don't really know why I contributed to this thread

Maisie0 · 11/06/2014 22:29

See what I mean ? Lol... oh God. Fighting the invisible fight. This can be your child basically.

Arsebadger · 11/06/2014 22:29

Shhhhhhh

IonaMumsnet · 11/06/2014 22:29

Right chaps. This is bunfight territory right here. Final plea: please let's get back to the OP's original question. She's still getting some really helpful responses - thanks Rhetorician - (among the buns). It would be a right shame if we had to zap this thread. Pretty please?

rootypig · 11/06/2014 22:30

In the hopes that OP would see your post rhetorician - so for the best possible reason. And I do hope that she does.

Funnyfoot · 11/06/2014 22:31

Iona! Iona!

Mumsnet is broken!

There are lines going through the posts and I can't read them!

Oh wait nope it's ok there only Maisies and I don't want to read her homophobic shite anyway not to worry.