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DH and my lovely family

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germinal · 08/06/2014 11:44

Will try and be short! I have a lovely and large family. We get together maybe six times a year (3 ds 1db and partners). We live close to my parents and ds and I see them often. Children see cousins and grandparents at least twice a week. DM minds DS2 four days a week. Except for occasions (christmas, easter, big bdays) I dont ask or expect DH to attend family get togethers. However tonight he has declared he "doesn't like them (my family) and will leave me to attend most things alone. I think that is ridiculous. I don't care if he doesn't like them, they are kind and generous people and a huge part of my life and the dc life. I expect him to attend family things and be kind. Ffs. Aibu????

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livingzuid · 08/06/2014 14:06

I can't bear big family gatherings and find the whole closeness thing extremely claustrophobic and uncomfortable and gatherings boring tbh. I resent the daily intrusion into my life. Dh is very close to his family but understands that is not for me. He goes to see them whenever he wants and if I feel up to it I go. He is also uncomfortable around my family but as we aren't close geographically it means maybe seeing my side once a year.

I think six times a year for large gatherings, plus the fact that you are in daily contact, is a lot and I know I would feel that mil, sil etc were always coming first ahead of the focus of my main family unit which is oh and dcs. Perhaps he thinks you don't put your immediate family ie him and children, first?

His mil coming from overseas (Ireland?) for nine weeks might have stressed him out and he might not have wanted her to come for that long at all :) mothers can have a habit of inviting themselves round and it's hard to say no.

The problem might not actually be the family but how he sees you and his family unit interacting iyswim.

I think he is, however, expressing himself very poorly and using language which is not pleasant.

Also if your Dm does childcare then he does need to be grateful. But grateful can turn into resentful and even the childcare in itself could be seen as your family taking over everything (not saying they are but that could be the perception).

It shouldn't be tit for tat but an agreement where you both discuss your wants and reach a compromise. No he doesn't have to go to all these gatherings but yes he needs to talk about them respectfully.

I think you are understandably resentful that he has chosen to tell you in such a way without discussing it properly or giving you a chance to share your view. Do try to take a step back and consider it from his angle and ask him to do the sake for you. Hopefully there will be a middle way :)

Raidne · 08/06/2014 14:08

germinal, you say: "Also he knows I love them. It seems mean to tell me he dislikes them."

Why is he not allowed to dislike them?

tribpot · 08/06/2014 14:12

I think he's got some nerve:

  • the arrangement whereby your mother cares for your (plural) child is 'your business'. I'd be tempted to tell him he can sort out and pay for childcare in that case.
  • you host his mother for nine staggering weeks and almost immediately after he announce he's had enough of your family?
livingzuid · 08/06/2014 14:13

Oh XP. I'd go nuts having to spend every Xmas and new year at in law gatherings

shodan has it spot on.

germinal · 08/06/2014 14:13

shodan thanks for that perspective. I will allow him to opt out more frequently I guess.

Dh family lives abroad. Loooooooong flight. Hence holidays with my family. I would certainly be open to spending them with his family if he wanted us to.

Cannot imagine christmas day with no extended family. Definately our childhood experience affecting my and my dh perspective. He thinks i am weird! I think he is a f**kwit.

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monkeyharris · 08/06/2014 14:16

Maybe he is OK for a bit with seeing your family so much but then it builds up, he gets fed up and then reacts by being rude them? They say familiarity breeds contempt and this is what it sounds like to me. I am a social kind of a person, but I have my limits and I think it would drive me a bit mad too if I was in your DH's situation. He obviously feels that the only way he can deal with it is to withdraw himself completely. I would let him get on with it and deal with it in his own time. I personally feel YABU to try to force him - it will just make everyone miserable IMHO.

germinal · 08/06/2014 14:17

He is allowed to dislike them. I dont think he should tell me so (is what I meant raidne)

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CrystalSkulls · 08/06/2014 14:19

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livingzuid · 08/06/2014 14:19

On the nine weeks, fwiw my dm planned a trip to see db for 12 weeks. Db was horrified Grin but what can you say? It's hard when you're talking days to travel.

TypicaLibra · 08/06/2014 14:21

Ah yes, don't know where I got 90 days from ... in any case 9 weeks is still more than plenty! I think he took advantage of your 'sense of family' to host his mother for so long, and then threw it back in your face once that (hosting his mother) was out of the way.

livingzuid · 08/06/2014 14:22

But why can't he tell you he dislikes them? He is being honest although I agree he could have worded it better.

germinal · 08/06/2014 14:22

Thanks monkeyharris. I am tempted to write "if yoy knew my family you would think differently Grin. Ha! I really appreciate your perspective. Perhaps I am being unfair.

Dh once snapped at my dsis. I was upset and called another dsis, who said "poor dh! We are so weird! It must be difficult!".

[Grin]

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CornChips · 08/06/2014 14:24

I'm not sure I can add to the discussion, but just to say. My DAunt recently came to stay with us for a weekend. She can be a difficult woman (aka...she's a bit of a bitch TBH) - but I am used to her. i am used to the family dynamics and decades (I am 40) of experience has taught me to allow it to wash over me.

DHis the most easy going laid back man you can imagine. DAunt took a couple of pops at him while he was staying, which i barely registered. After she left, DH said to me that he had been offended, and she was never to step foot in our house again.Point is, he never sees her, or says anything like that. I never really 'got' what the issue was. But he said it to me. He laid the line down. I have to respect that - because the fact he said he was upset, he was offended and he had limits to what he would expect - well, I have to put him first and respect his feelings.

I think it is a bit out of order to call your DH a fuckwit because he wants to have less interaction with your family. You say that they are lovely and I have no doubt that you think they are ,but the fact is- as he is expressing quite clearly- he does not find them as unremittingly lovely as you do. He is asking you for a bit of distance. If you have faith in him as a DH, and as a person, then I would respect him enough to listen to what he says.

livingzuid · 08/06/2014 14:24

libra 9 weeks if it is coming from somewhere like oz or nz is not so unthinkable or unreasonable given that is a trip affordable only every few years (it is in my family anyway!).

livingzuid · 08/06/2014 14:24

libra 9 weeks if it is coming from somewhere like oz or nz is not so unthinkable or unreasonable given that is a trip affordable only every few years (it is in my family anyway!).

germinal · 08/06/2014 14:26

I dunno. If I hated someone's mother/ wife/ kid I wouldnt tell them! I don't like dh brother, a real estate agent, but I have never told dh that. He loves his brother, I dont want to taint that.

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Orangeanddemons · 08/06/2014 14:26

I feel smothered and overwhelmed just thinking about it. Big family get together every public holiday? That would just about finish me off, especially if it was an expected.

I'm sure your family are lovely, but even so, I'm with your dh. This would be just way too much family contact time for me. Some of us are introverts and like lots of time on our own without hordes of other people. I would be emotionally exhausted in his shoes.

AncientBallerina · 08/06/2014 14:29

OP I am in a broadly similar situation but have made the decision for this and other reasons to have Christmas at home with our nuclear unit and e.g. My family over on Christmas Eve so DH doesn't feel like a hanger on at my family events. Also is DH a different nationality to you and your extended family? This could compound his feelings of otherness. I sympathise with him if he feels like he doesn't belong, but he should not be openly hostile to your family or be rude about them to you. Do you get on well with his mum?

germinal · 08/06/2014 14:29

F**kwit was a bit strong Blush

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Quitelikely · 08/06/2014 14:31

Op please don't let this become an issue. Just give him his space as and when he wants it, with regard to your family gatherings. I can find being in company drains the life out of me or the prospect of certain company fills me with dread! Try not to take it personally. Although I understand its your nearest and dearest.

However I do think being rude to your family is crossing a line. You haven't gave examples of this so I can't be sure what he's doing but that's unacceptable IMO.

Lastly is it possible he feels threatened by your closeness or togetherness as its something he hasn't got from his own family?

BitOutOfPractice · 08/06/2014 14:33

Germinal lots of people are telling you that they find the amount of day-to-day and special occasion time with your family would be too much for us, yet you still don't seem to get that your DH might feel like that.

Maybe it's a case not that "I don't like your family" but "I don't like spending so much time with your family"

Which, instead of calling him a fuckwit for disagreeing with you, you might try and listen to

germinal · 08/06/2014 14:34

ancientballerina thanks for your comment. Dh not another nationality really (all anglo celts) but i get your point.

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livingzuid · 08/06/2014 14:37

On the dislike thing though, again it's about being honest. You not feeling comfortable with his db is something he should know. He's perfectly happy telling you that some of those in your family are less than perfect and you should be able to do the same. Not because it's about a big slagging off match but that together you reach an agreement on who you want to see and why and how much time and so on. He's a big boy and I'm sure would accept your point of view rather than have any childhood illusion shattered.

germinal · 08/06/2014 14:39

bitoutofpractice I certainly am taking comments on board! I am listening with interest! Have said a few times now "perhaps I was unfair", "You might be right" etc. Totally open to possibility that I am unreasonable Grin

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