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DeliberatelyDreaming · 15/05/2014 13:54

For everyone OLD or even RL dating. Tell us your stories, share your woe's and get and give support.

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FolkGirl · 18/05/2014 19:51

One last update!! Grin

When we got back to his this afternoon, we were both quite tired, so went for a 'lie down' nice long afternoon nap...

As he was sleeping, I looked at him and had such an overwhelming rush of something. For the first time ever, I think I looked at another adult and felt like I really loved them.

I think I have realised that, in the past, I've misinterpretted 'needing' someone, and being afraid of losing them and being alone, as loving them. Whereas with him, I look at him and I don't feel like that. I know I'd be ok without him - because I'm not scared of being alone. It's more that I think I've really got to grips with the idea of loving someone as a verb rather than (just) an emotion.

I still know it's not going to last for all sorts of reasons, and I'm still ok with that. But that's why I think I'm 'free' to love him because I'm not tied up in knots wondering if it's going to last and all that.

I'm learning a lot about myself in all of this... Smile

Bigbird01 · 18/05/2014 19:59

Folk Yey!!! Grin

...and I'm a teensy-weensy bit Envy

wickedwitchofwaterloo · 18/05/2014 20:18

Folk - I know exactly what you mean. I could absolutely live without my DP ... But I don't want to. I adore him than live itself and its a lovely (and reciprocated) feeling :-)

FolkGirl · 18/05/2014 21:08

Bigbird It's been a long time coming, and there's part of me that is still scared I'm making a mistake... If he meets someone else, I could cope with that, that's just life; if it ends because he returns home/the wanderlust returns, I could cope with that; if it ends because he just no longer loves me, I could cope with that...

But if it ends because/or when it ends I find out that the whole thing was just lies and deception, I will be utterly heartbroken. Partly because it will have meant that all the things I worried could be true actually were; partly because it will mean I allowed myself to love someone who wasn't who/what I thought they were; partly because I'll have made a huge error in judgement; and partly because I would never get over it. Not because of him, but because of me.

wicked I always used to think that the idea of "if you love someone set them free" and all that was an absolute nonsense. But I genuinely want what's best for him, even if it could mean the end of us.

SodaFizz · 18/05/2014 21:09

Thanks to all those that provided feedback on my profile. Have registered on PoF this evening but so far not impressed with the choice in my area Grin

UrsulaBuffay · 18/05/2014 21:32

Sorry took a while Soda I went to the circus with DD today jeez she's like a teenager and she's five - knackered!

Bigbird01 · 18/05/2014 21:32

folk I completely understand how you feel. But from what you have said he does seem to just get you and it is hard to do that unless he genuinely feels for you. I really hope things continue to go so well for you.

Minime85 · 18/05/2014 21:36

soda I didn't like pof. I used match. give it at least a week see how u get on. its a huge learning curve but great fun Grin

somedayillbesaturdaynite · 18/05/2014 21:39

Folkgirl your updates have put a smile on my face for the first time today! It gives me hope, especially resonating with misinterpreting love for the fear of losing them or being alone.

Can I ask if any of you wonder if you have been on your own too long to get back on the scene? A lot of the time I am content with my own company, probably like it too much tbh. I have given a few OLD sites a go and find that I mostly just don't even want to reply to messages. Of the times I do I end up frustrated that it I find composing messages (texts/posts/fb statuses too) to find their 2nd or 3rd message is just to ask if I have skype or msn :/

somedayillbesaturdaynite · 18/05/2014 21:39

*find composing messages hard

Maisie0 · 18/05/2014 21:57

Some I think it takes a while for a guy to warm up as well and let down his guard, which is also very hard as well. I also don't want to be their "it". i.e. they gave their wonderful self and their emotional self onto someone else and then just decided to "tag" you for the last sexual favours. I don't know why, but I feel very used when I am being fluffed this way... It really is pretty insincere I find. If I do not know him then how can I trust him ?

FolkGirl · 18/05/2014 22:08

Bigbird Thank you. I do understand what you're saying. I think he does 'get' me. I do really like his perceptiveness, to be honest, even if it makes me feel a little exposed at times... My exH prided himself on his sensitivity and romantic nature, yet I don't think he ever read my thoughts based on a look in my eye. Obviously, my boyfriend didn't know what I was thinking, but he knew I was thinking something and that it wasn't good.

And when I said I was just tired and smiled at him, I could tell by his expression that he didn't believe me, but he respected me enough to leave it.

He's so patient too. I apologised for something last night. It wasn't a big deal really, but something that my exH would have been really cross about, so something I thought would be a little irritating at the very least. But he said there was no need to apologise and looked a little bemused that I had thought there was!

someday Smile I've read that on MN so many times about some people saying, "I love you" but meaning "I need you and I'm scared of being alone". I used to read that and think that there must be an element of that when everyone says, "I love you", but now I see that there isn't. It's a lot more about giving than taking. Very odd...!

I have a couple of friends who say that they've been on their own for too long. Their lives are just so established now that I don't see how a man could ever find a way in! I know I said a few posts ago that I am aware my boyfriend could meet someone who lives closer to him (we live about an hour apart) and who is free more frequently than alternate weekends, but the truth is, he could live down the road and I would just feel under pressure to see him more often. I've only been on my own for about 18 months, and I already feel like I can't imagine myself ever living with someone else again!

Which sites have you tried? I used Match, but I didn't have much trouble with people asking about skype/msn. I liked the fact that emails don't have to be replied to immediately.

wickedwitchofwaterloo · 18/05/2014 22:14

Folk - So much what you said. I just want him to be happy always. No matter what. He brings so much happiness to my life!

TalisaMaegyr · 18/05/2014 22:22

jest I'm really confused, I thought you didn't have any children?

TalisaMaegyr · 18/05/2014 22:23

jesy I mean!

somedayillbesaturdaynite · 18/05/2014 22:48

It's been 4 years for me since my last LTR although I have had some more erm casual encounters. I'm not really sure how to articulate what I want, I love feeling comfortable enough to be myself from the off, definitely prefer it to the buzz or the honeymoon period. I guess I'm too lazy to worry about not being able to slouch around with my hair tied back and no make-up on ;) I did try match a while ago but didn't really get anywhere with it. I am an awkward one, if I click with someone (male or female friend) I can chat for England, but I find general small talk bloody hard with a lot if people.

MozzchopsThirty · 18/05/2014 22:54

Hi haven't posted on this thread before but could do with some honest opinions.
Met guy on POF 5 weeks ago, I had a lot of dates lined up and we were supposed to meet after I'd done 2.
Anyway ended up meeting for a quick drink and got on really well, didn't go on any other dates and he took me out again.
He was very full on initially, said he wanted to be exclusive, be his girlfriend, got a full sti screen because I hate condoms!!

This week I feel he's pulled back, less texts, doesn't always take my calls, falls asleep when I'm there Hmm
Then he pulls it back saying he's really into me, didn't want to be too full on as it pisses girls off. Took me out today for the most wonderfully romantic day

My friends say I'm expecting too much too soon, and that I'm needy and shouldn't expect him to call or text all the time and that if he did I'd get bored!!!

What do you all think??

MozzchopsThirty · 18/05/2014 22:55

Oh and he's not drop dead gorgeous, or a player, he's 9 years older than me too

SodaFizz · 18/05/2014 23:12

I'm in agreement with your friend at the moment - it's still very early days, go with the flow and see how things progress over the next few dates. He does sound like he's into you so I wouldn't worry too much Mozz

MozzchopsThirty · 18/05/2014 23:15

Thank you, think I'm just panicking because I really like him which surprised me a lot

BeforeAndAfter · 19/05/2014 04:01

Folk your weekend and relationship sound so lovely. Question for you - why don't you see him on the weekends when you've got the kids now things are more settled? He sounds very committed to you and is accepting of your children so why not step it up on the 'with children' weekends and include him in the family fun? Wouldn't it be great for the children to see you in a positive loving relationship and see how that all works?

jesy · 19/05/2014 05:47

TTisame

I work as a nanny at the moment and this week is my late shift.
I normally nip into the local supermarket loo to freshen up as I normally have a an hour and half to kill as he doesn't get home till late.
He off work today so he said I'll see you just after six and I'll cook.
I don't want him thinking I go to loads off effort for just going round for tea even tho I do lol.
And nope I don't hAve own kids lol

FolkGirl · 19/05/2014 06:22

Before I don't know, really.

It was never my intention to have someone involved in the mundaneness of everyday family life. It would be nice to have him come along and do fun/good stuff with us, I suppose, I'm just not really sure I want him there for all of the "I asked you to stop doing that", "stop arguing" type conversations that inevitably occur, too! Or any of the "I'm putting the washing machine on, anything not in the laundry basket in 5 minutes doesn't get washed" type conversations either.

But I'm also aware that that's a hangover from my marriage. Because you don't see those conversations in rom coms, my exH refused to believe they existed and thought I was the only woman who ever complained when wet towels were left on the floor or suggested cleaning the guttering. It used to make him very angry.

Because of this, I think there's part of me that's scared he'll be put off if he sees me doing boring every day stuff. It's not exactly attractive, is it!

And I'm not sure I want the children to have to accept another man either. My dad handled it pretty well when he did it, but we weren't ever close to his wife and I never really felt comfortable with him when she was there. My mother handled it appallingly - we had to just accept every new man in her life as our 'stepdad' (I was nearly 18 when they seperated) and they had immediate authority over us. I just don't want either of them to ever feel like I did.

FolkGirl · 19/05/2014 06:35

Before I also think that because he doesn't want children of his own he probably isn't really that interested in spending time with them.

When I didn't have children, I wasn't the slightest bit interested in spending time with other people's and I found them a bit irritating really. Admittedly, I was in my early 20s then and he's nearly 50. But still... In fact, I wonder if it would be even more the case now!

I wouldn't want him to feel like I was trying to steer him into 'family life'. I've taken my cues very much from him there. He was happy to meet them and liked them, and said he hoped he'd meet them again, but that was about 6 weeks or so ago.

I suppose now he's mentioned it, I could suggest it...

dontcallmehon22 · 19/05/2014 07:47

I have not got strong feelings for anyone at the moment. Apart from the one person I can never have.