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Being DRY

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Bigglesfliesundone · 11/05/2014 09:39

This is the fourth thread for those of us who want to abstain from alcohol completely.

It's an arduous path at times, but we're still here!

We know how easy it is to slip, and how hard it can be to stay on the road, but we also know that we can't drink 'just one'.

The thread motto is 'Watch the film to the end'

Smile

Come and have a coffee!

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Bigglesfliesundone · 31/05/2014 12:19

Arse! Wrote a massive post on the stupid tablet and it didn't take Angry. That tablet is hopeless.

Try again.

Basically, wanted to say I have caught up with posts (at last!) some amazing milestones - Popper, you have been though it and it is so easy to let alcohol muffle the pain until the pain is the alcohol :(. Then without the alcohol it's about managing the pain again (does that make sense!!)

Birthday was good. Lunch with dh and dc and meal out in the evening with dh, where I spoke to him about how I was facing the pain (see above!) without the alcohol, he told me he felt self conscious drinking at home and I told him not to be silly, I only moaned at him when he was dull and stupid though beer Grin

Went to our old local, which we used to run and saw some really old friends, all of whom just accepted me having a soft drink. Had some very awful and embarrassing times in there in the past Blush and didn't want to go back after the meal as thought it would be, not hard, but just a bit dull to be honest..

I ended my post by saying, it's hard, it's annoyong, it's frstrating and that horrible 'it's not fair' voice keeps popping up, but it's so worth it.

Smile

Oh and I have got a place for the charity I work for in the London Marathon next year . SCREAM. We are a tiny charity and i didn't expect it at all. DOUBLE SCREAM

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70hours · 01/06/2014 07:52

I slept like a log last night :)

merce · 01/06/2014 08:21

You SEE????!!!!!! It does happen. SO happy to hear it x

merce · 01/06/2014 09:05

Went to the theatre with a friend last night. Going home on the bus was struck by the number of utterly pissed people staggering about in the streets. So so so glad not to be one of them. Up bright and early today feeling clear-headed and positive. I don't think I will ever stop being grateful for not feeling like death in the mornings.

70hours · 01/06/2014 09:26

Thanks Merce - glad you enjoyed the theatre :). Beautiful day and fitness regime starts today :)

Bigglesfliesundone · 01/06/2014 10:22

sleeping well is such a bonus! [gri

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SlippedDisco · 01/06/2014 21:09

I'm dipping in and straight out again as I'm rather ashamed to say after 77 fabulous dry days, I lapsed. Spiralled right back into the booze trap; triggers seemingly being stress with teen DD, then my birthday, then a holiday, all of which happened at once and seemed to really unleash the dirty booze hound in me.

Anyway I feel that I can beat this, 77 days was a huge achievement so I'm trying to focus on the positives steps I took and will use that as a tool to bash on trying to crack this shit.

Waves to all x

nochips01 · 02/06/2014 08:12

Hi everyone.[waves] to Slipped. Dashing in and out. Just wanted to check in. Seeing my counsellor this morning. I want to ask her if she has thought more about her addiction support group.

guggenheim · 02/06/2014 09:22

Hi,
Have come back to admit that being sober was not,in fact,boring. That was my "dirty booze hound" Smile brain taking over. It was hard at times and amazing at times. I also have to own up to the fact that it is going back to aa that has kept me sober. The fellowship may drive me nuts at times but I want to be sober and stay that way.

tortoise i haven't forgotten about that room. I would use it to craft and write and think. And it would be cold and white and round with a massive open window. But... I don't really have any ambitions to write or to be amazing,that room belongs to the drinking part of my life where I find reasons to isolate and with enough distance from others,of course I drink.One of the ways I am rewiring my brain is to make sure I see friends and get out to spend time with people. I need a new imaginary space now- not sure what though!

merce · 02/06/2014 09:27

Agree, Guggenheim that AA isn't perfect and can have annoying bits. But I'd never have stayed sober without it. So my view is - don't question it too much, just suck it up and stay sober. If I drink ,all bets are off and frankly I don't need to make it much more complicated than that.

Wanted to say hi to everyone and send a virtual wave to SlippedD. Hope you are still feeling positive and focusing on how far you've come.

Happy day all!

Bigglesfliesundone · 02/06/2014 09:39

Hi all. Oh, slipped, never mind. It happens. I 'slipped' (did you see what I did there Grin [saddo] ) on Xmas eve last year, which was about 50 days in. It was annoying and made me very cross with myself, but as has been said upthread, it happens, and the main thing is not to beat yourself up but think about why.

Guggenheim, I get ya! Sober isn't boring - it just seems like it 'ought to be' I guess, after all we've all spent years being So Much Fun pissed haven't we... Hmm Grin

nochips, I hope it goes well this morning.

I was sooo pissed off yesterday, should have been doing the Half marathon but instead took the children to the museum, which, whilst fun wasn't really my plan for the day, especially when ds, faced with some Picasso and other modern artists, turned into Kevin and said 'what a load of shit, I mean, god, what, I mean huh?' etc, whilst sweet dd was trying to be ever so bossy and clever 'come ON lets go to the Egyptians and see the mummified cats'.

Grin

However, I have spent my first weekend aged 50, and am still alive and still sober., that must be good!

Have a great day all.

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70hours · 02/06/2014 10:29

Morning all - big waves - fitness regime begins this week :). I will lose weight :). - can I just say my poo looks better TMI I know but just got to remind myself that i am getting well - big love to you all xxxxxx

CornChips · 02/06/2014 14:38

Hello all, nochips here with a new name change. :)

70 i am also determined to be fitter and healthier. I have lost 2 pounds in my first week as a newly re-joined WW member. :) So much easier to stick to healthy eating - and to tracking than when I was half waydown a bottle of wine!

Biggles you are an inspiration to me. :)

I am also thinking hard about the isolation we have all talked about. I had my favourite magazine drop through my door today so after DS is in bed I plan to have a bubble bath,a cup of white tea with pomegranate and read it and relax. try and recreate the away from life bubble that alcohol did so well.

Right- sorry for short post and not name-checking- off for the school run. Back later. :)

Bigglesfliesundone · 02/06/2014 15:54

shaddap Blush

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Endingthecharade · 02/06/2014 17:26

I have namechanged for this.
May I join?
I have followed the other threads on and off since their beginnings.
About me.
I cannot drink without getting drunk.
I drink in the mornings (just Sats
and Sundays if I don't have to drive.
I drink throughout the day.
I hide bottles (wine)
I drink secretly
My behaviour changes and I behave irrationally, bad temperedly and I loose all sense of reason.
I almost only drink at weekends, Fri Sat and worst of all Sunday through the day. But do I drink... I am out of control.
My lovely DH is frustrated and sad, My dd aged 12 and DS aged 14 just quiet and my DD aged 17 who has ASD cannot bring herself to speak to me when I have had a drink
I am loosing their respect and I fear their love.
I am so deeply inadequate and also such a fraud and hypocrite as I live and work in a small village as a clinician. I come across as cheerful, functioning and caring.
My family know different.
I cannot go to AA as it is too small a community and I could bump into someone I know.
I desperately need help.
I have resolved after yesterday to give it up forever. (have been flirting with this for a long time) but I am terrified to loose my crutch and also the times when it is good to drink (together with DH on a Friday, listening to music in the kitchen).
I have told him this what I need to do and all the beers(Which I don't like as not strong enough but will swallow if there is nothing else) have to go along with the Bailey's (also horrible but will swig from that too).

Has anyone got to such a low point and been so frightened? I would willingly go to AA if I could hope for real 'anonymity'
Has anyone any ideas where I can go from here, books?...there seem to be so many..
Does AA on line exist? (I fear though, that one loses the whole point if you do that)
Maybe I need counselling, have had it before 4 years ago, it was good but she was too kind to me.

What ideas can I adopt for my first week/month that might help?

Did you all, who have been dry for a long time, tell everyone at the outset.
I have told DD17. She asked what tactics I am going to use.

Sorry to pour all this out. Trying to do this before getting down to supper.

I have successfully stopped for a month or so over the years and, as I said, I can seem control it during the week but nonetheless, it is a big problem.
Thank you for listening.

Lucy2610 · 02/06/2014 17:38

Hi Endingthecharade I'm relatively new to this lovely group of people also but just wanted to say hi and welcome. There is an online AA and it's called www.intherooms.com/. There is lots of help and support available online :)
Lou

Bigglesfliesundone · 02/06/2014 17:43

Oh ending, you sound really scared Sad but, you know there is a problem, and, corny as it sounds, that really is the first step.

Yes, I have reached as low a feeling as you do now - I expect all of us on here have felt like you. You have to really want to and it seems that you really do. For me, aa didn't work, what worked was just thinking about how alcohol makes me act (horrible, miserable, angry, nasty) and thinking do I always want to be doing this to my family. Plenty of books around we can all let you know about, and just loads of support here. Stay with us. Hopefully someone else will be along soon too.x

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Lucy2610 · 02/06/2014 17:45

PS I'm a clinician too.

Endingthecharade · 02/06/2014 18:02

Thank you Lou and Biggles, feel better all ready. I really appreciate your messages.
I am 50 in Jan next year and I really need to turn my life around before I ruin everybody else's or make my self ill. I am such a self destructive personality which is so crap as objectively I have a lovely (if fraught and busy work) life. Stupid, stupid,stupid.....and embarrassing (became maudlin and tearful at a dinner party with (albeit) close friends but all the same...I come across as a 'pity me' which I hate and am so unlike that sober.
Thank again for your messages, must do supper...

merce · 02/06/2014 19:09

Hi Endingthecharade. Welcome - you are in the right place. Your post was touching and raw. It took me right back.

I am late 40s and identified with almost all of what you said. I hid bottles bloody everywhere. There was a shaming moment when my DD (then 4) came into the kitchen from our laundry room brandishing an empty bottle of white wine asking 'mummy, why is there an empty bottle of wine behind the washing machine?'. Knife in gut moment.

If you've been lurking on the thread for a while you'll know that we are a mish-mash of people with different lengths of sobriety and different techniques. What we all share is a massive problem with alcohol and an inability to drink normally - no matter how hard we try/want to persuade ourselves otherwise.

I did seriously shameful things when I was drinking - but like you appeared to be v. respectable and competent on the outside (held down good job etc). I was totally enslaved to it by the end.

Specifically in response to your questions:

Yes - have got to such a low point (if not lower). Terrified of myself and risk of losing my family.

If you look further up the thread there is a link to loads of excellent (sounding) books. I haven't read them yet, but plan on doing some ordering!

Re. AA, I understand what you say and it's easy for me as I live in a big city, but if you bumped into someone you knew they'd be there for the same reason, right? So you wouldn't be judged. And in my experience anonymity is taken really seriously. I would never have managed to stay sober (2 yrs 4 months so far) without it. I think if you 'white knuckle' it - i.e. feel like you are constantly depriving yourself of something - it's a matter of time until it all goes pear-shaped. I joined AA to stop drinking, but found so much more (way of living, thinking, not getting so het up about small things, less ego-driven etc). All that helps me not pick up a drink so is worth it.

Agree with your experience of counselling. A woman I saw 10 years ago was lovely, but when I said I thought I had an alcohol problem she said she doubted it (little did she know how bad it was going to get).

Telling people: I have been really private. Just don't want to get into it. So 3 friends, my mum and DH. That's it. Everyone else thinks I am being healthy/can't take it anymore/whatever. They may have their suspicions, but haven't 'said it'. Sometimes I think that is weak of me, but it's the way that feels right for now.

This is far too long - sorry! But didn't want to ignore you, and wanted to reply to best of my ability to your Qs.

xx

Endingthecharade · 02/06/2014 19:56

Merce, how kind of you to devote all the time it must have taken to write your message to me.

I have the odd child looking over my shoulder at the minute (innocently, I know...) so will come back again tomorrow. I need to have the comfort of knowing I can post completely honestly but really (even though I'm trying to be honest with the children) I don't want them reading any of this. See you tomorrow and thanks again.

merce · 02/06/2014 19:58

Am a fast touch typist! x

MistressofPemberley · 02/06/2014 21:23

Hello Ending. Glad you're here. When you do have time, do read through all the threads. There is a lot of useful stuff to be taken from the posts. From my point of view, it seems that many of us did not make a big announcement about stopping drinking. I know it felt far too overwhelming for me to say never. However, as time has gone on, I really do feel confident about saying (to myself mainly) that I don't drink. Friends and family are getting used to it too. Any fears I had of people being disparaging or disbelieving are fading fast. In fact, the faith of others now helps me to stick with it. For example my sister just assumes I'll be sober and driving at a wedding in a couple of months time. It is true; actions speak louder than words and 3 months of sobriety have given me and my family confidence. Not that I'm complacent.

Just finished Drunk Mom. Hard-going but very good. Hate the fact that there is a small voice going "you were nowhere near that bad. Did you really have to stop?" Hmm

Phone about to die. Hope you're all well this evening.

allhailqueenmab · 02/06/2014 21:41

Hello everyone.
Welcome endingthecharade.

I am sitting here with a cup of tea.... the original and best. I do look forward to a cup of tea at home in the dusk.

I hope you are all well.

merce · 02/06/2014 21:51

Sitting here with tonic water. God I'm bored of drinking tonic water…. Need to find something else. Hmmm.