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The Dating Thread 74.

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MadeMan · 04/05/2014 13:44

Hello and welcome.

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neiljames77 · 08/05/2014 00:27

I would though, if she was 'old headed', iyswim?
I dare say some women in their 40's are immature and shallow.
Don't care about age really. (although I'd always have it in the back of my mind that in 10,15 or 20 years, what would be the outcome?)

Rummikub · 08/05/2014 01:57

neil that didn't sound like a pleasant date!

I am also going to remember that about follow up texts, I'm terrible for doing it. So leave it be. I hate all these games!

Rummikub · 08/05/2014 01:59

deliberately that is annoying about the texts! You're not dating him are you..

jesy · 08/05/2014 06:02

White
I thought all men wanted the younger girl but this guy I been seeing likes older women ,and despite me being a size 16 with a tummy I'm fore Dr being told not to cover up in bed lol

Minime85 · 08/05/2014 06:16

Neil great text explanation of texts. sorry u had what sounds like a horrendous night.

u do sound lovely by the way and hope u find someone a lot more up your street than last night's date sounded Smile

whitedoorbell · 08/05/2014 07:32

jesy am Smile for you. and also a bit Envy

is such a relief when you are feeling self conscious and it all turns out good isn't it!

neiljames77 · 08/05/2014 09:01

Well I've not had any shitty phone calls yet.

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Pinklaydee1302 · 08/05/2014 09:27

Scarey that sounds like me, always texting first Hmm

He always texts back though but still....

neiljames77 · 08/05/2014 09:35

Scarey123 - Four months is a bit different. It's not like your first couple of dates is it? I could suggest calling his bluff and say don't ring or text him to see if he gets in touch but that might answer questions you didn't really want the answer to. You'll be fretting until he gets in touch and it might upset you. You're probably best just talking to him about it and explaining that you could have seen friends or family if he's busy. At best, he's being a bit inconsiderate. At worst, he's using you.

SuperFlyHigh · 08/05/2014 09:44

neil - why did you go?! I thought you said you weren't going... Confused

whitedoorbell · 08/05/2014 09:46

neiljames good news re lack if phone calls

your perspective is very refreshing and reassuring but I gotta be honest it's very straight talking Grin
not sure I like it.... what you just said to scary. of course you are right. if she leaves it to him to get in touch and he doesn't then she knows where she stands... painfully honest

sorry not criticising you at all. That's what I like about mn. you get told straight. but I am scared to step out of my fantasy which is all happy happy happy Grin Grin

whitedoorbell · 08/05/2014 09:50

scarey maybe you could call his bluff. make some plans for at least part of the weekend. then wait for him to come to you at the last minute. then you can have the conversation about planning in advance.
easier said than done I know. although is good to be busy sometimes. we don't want to come across as being so keen that we are literally sitting by the door with our coat on on the off chance they want to see us Confused

neiljames77 · 08/05/2014 10:08

It wasn't a 'date' as such, SuperFlyHigh. The full story is that last weekend, a few of us were out watching football in the pub. My friend's girlfriend was there with her sister(whether deliberately or not, I don't know). She obviously had no interest in the football and looked bored. I was just having general conversation with her to stop her feeling left out.
Even for someone as crap at reading signals as me, I could tell she was flirting (playing with her hair, fake-ish laughter etc). Anyway, out of politeness, when I went to the bar, I got her a drink a couple of times. Next day, my friend rang and asked if he could give her my number because she keeps mithering him and asking if I'll be out on Wednesday and that she really likes me.
I still went out because it was pre-arranged before any of this and I didn't want to go somewhere else just to avoid her. I wanted to just explain to her that it wouldn't be a good idea for us to get together but I didn't really get the chance as she'd plonked herself down next to me, behaving like we'd been seeing each other for months. I bought her some drinks, saw her get jealous and aggressive for no reason with another woman and left. That's about it really.

SuperFlyHigh · 08/05/2014 10:09

She sounds a nightmare Neil. do you think she got the message?

neiljames77 · 08/05/2014 10:22

SuperFlyHigh - Probably not. Grin

By the way, I'm not advising Scarey to call his bluff. It's best she talks about it with him. It has been 4 months after all. She might be the sort that tells him she's made plans for the weekend because he didn't let her know otherwise. Then when he says he wanted to see her, she says she'll cancel everything then. If he's a user, it'll be music to his ears.

Pinklaydee1302 · 08/05/2014 10:40

I'm going to talk to my guy tonight as I'm just sick of over analysing and worrying about his every little move. It's driving me crazy and I know I'm doing it to myself.

All week I've initiated contact with him but even when we speak I just don't feel like he that bothered about speaking to me.

So....I'm going to ask him straight and see if I'm flogging a dead horse cos then I'll just have to move on. I just cannot bear feeling like this Confused

Rummikub · 08/05/2014 11:17

In my experience, straight talking works best. scary I think ask him straight about plans for weekends coming up as you are making plans yourself. So you're not saying "what about me" but rather "I have a life". Hopefully he'll realise he'll have to plan ahead to see you.

Scarey123 · 08/05/2014 11:21

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neiljames77 · 08/05/2014 11:24

You're all probably asking the wrong person really because I DO like all the texting etc. Smile

I don't want to generalise but unless it's all bravado in front of mates, most blokes are about as complicated as an on/off switch.
They/we don't really look for hidden meanings. We do appreciate straight talk though, even if it's upsetting. I know some of you don't want to be blunt though because if you don't want to see or speak to a man anymore, you still might feel bad about upsetting him, so it gets sugar-coated. You just run the risk of being misinterpreted.
What you could be saying as a metaphorical kick up the arse to get an idea about how he feels about you could be taken as being dumped or you losing interest.
On the other hand, you suggesting in a roundabout way that you think you should see less of each other might have him thinking you just want to do it with clothes on in future.
Some blokes are clueless. ( Blush )
Some are just rude and ignorant.
Some are very clued up but just like playing games.
Straight talking will usually get you your answers. What you do with those answers is the key really. It'll define what kind of person you are, what you want out of life and what would make you happy.

(sorry for the mansplaining)

SuperFlyHigh · 08/05/2014 11:25

Neil for what it's worth, I had a date on Tuesday (but kept it quiet here) with a friend of a friend (Danny) who's been chasing me. nice enough man but older and just not on my page.

Anyway because he's a friend and we share mutual friends (who think we'd be disastrous together) I told him "not to say anything to them until/if we were properly dating" - what does he go and do, tell one of them... just after she's asked me if I've seen/heard from him, Danny.

So I had to do some back-pedalling re my friend but I was pissed off that Danny had put his foot in it, and without asking me first. So no 2nd chance. Grin

SuperFlyHigh · 08/05/2014 11:27

Neil - I get what you say re most blokes are uncomplicated.

But what about the last man I was seeing seriously who lied/got out of seeing me etc and I had to drag everything out of him - eg re us? if he'd just said so in the first place I'd have been better but then he lied which made me mad! and the worst thing he thought he wouldn't get caught out - but then an open FB profile (and me not having one but quite happy to spy) tells a lot doesn't it...

Scarey123 · 08/05/2014 11:30

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UrsulaBuffay · 08/05/2014 11:32

It's true though I was seeing a guy very casually and felt I was always initiating contact I had been honest and said look we don't have to & he was all I've just been busy, course I want to etc so I just stopped contacting him. And that was over a month ago now- no text. Tbh it's easier than having the big discussion at least I know now.

neiljames77 · 08/05/2014 11:39

SuperFlyHigh - Danny might have just been fishing to find out what you thought of him or what you might have been saying etc. Doesn't matter though I suppose if you're not giving him a 2nd chance!! (ruthless bugger Grin )

Your last one was just being cowardly and ignorant.
Lied as in saying he was working when he wasn't etc or lied as in cheating? (don't answer if you don't want to)