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Managing it all. Being happy & fulfilled. Affairs.

271 replies

Arewethereyet3 · 25/04/2014 15:07

Our relationship started being less sexual after our 2nd child. It was never the best sex I'd (or I'm sure she'd) had. We work well as a team. At the time I'd come out of a heavily sexual relationship-where the girl I was with was extremely highly sexed-as was I.

Now, we don't even sleep in the same room. I snore and come to bed late. She likes to go to bed early. We don't excite or may not even fully find each other attractive anymore.

Things have been going really well for us both with our careers but we have really grown apart and barely even manage to encourage each other anymore.

I've had a few affairs since our children were born. - they completely took me unawares. I just got chatting to a lovely woman who was passionate about food and cooking, it got late, I walked her home and we tore each other's clothes off outside her flat. I was clear that I only wanted sex. She said she was ok with this, but after about 6 months, she told me she'd fallen in love with me. I called it off-there was no way I was leaving my partner (we've been together 16 years, but not married).

Things were ok again for a while but then I found I really fell for a woman I was working with. We had great sex and really enjoyed each other. So much, that I was on the verge of leaving my partner for her. She however called it off and said that she wished she hadn't gotten involved-it was all too much at a time when she was mourning her brother's death and my situation.

My partner has clearly picked up that all is not well with us; probably knows that I've been unfaithful and right now thinks I'm just selfish and not giving enough time and thought to her and the children.

Neither of us want to rush into a situation we both regret. It'll be me that has to go. We have all our assets tied together, still show signs of fancying each other, still enjoy the comfort we get from coming home to someone after a hard day and knowing that there is money in the bank, good food on the table, happy confident children.

I cannot bare to leave my kids and I've seen how she struggles (as I do) when dealing with them/work etc all alone.

Yet, we both miss intimacy. We both miss sex. I have been seeing someone else. Typical cliche-she's much younger, sexy, extremely intelligent and beautiful. I don't want to start all over again-as flattering as all this attention is. But, it's not just an ego trip. It's not just sex. This woman offers a whole new experience and we only have one life.

I had a health scare a few years ago and it has made me realise how short life is to be unhappy or cause unhappiness.

My partner and I are unhappy with each other. There was a time when we were in love. Part of me felt as though I'd compromised on the sex issue-but I found sexy women difficult to cope with full time. No doubt she compromised a fair bit too.

We both love our kids so much and they will be taken care of however which way we go.

I don't want to trap my partner into accepting me as a man who has affairs. She wouldn't let that happen anyway. I don't even want to be a man that has affairs. I just want a good sex life, with passion and intense lovemaking. How do you sustain that over the years?

Is it wrong to deny yourself this?

We've been in this limbo for 6 months and there is no obvious direction to go in.

I'm not looking for advice I don't think. Just want to have a frank, open and honest conversation with someone going through the same.

If you're going to senselessly judge and transfer all your own frustrations with your partner, please don't. I'm not interested. If you intelligently want to share some ideas and experiences that are relevant, mature and 'modern' you're very welcome....

OP posts:
getthefeckouttahere · 26/04/2014 12:51

Phew,

ok been away doing a bit of self actualising, (gotta love a bit of Maslow, amusing that Dylan thought we may have to look up what it was!)

So where are we, what number are we up to? 5? 7? 42?

Offred · 26/04/2014 13:12

I think the thing is that there is a massive difference between taking responsibility and hand wringing which the op hasn't got to grips with.

I'm not interested in either "she alienated me and I had no choice but to do xyz" or "I'm a terrible horrible person" - both are supremely annoying. What I'm interested in is self awareness, maturity, responsibility and sensible planning of how to turn this problematic situation around with concern for everyone's needs....

Quitelikely · 26/04/2014 13:26

Waterlego. I think your post is very true of alot of relationships. That's what I think the OP is bypassing. I genuinely believe that this situation will present itself to him regularly of the course of his new relationships.

fedupbutfine · 26/04/2014 13:32

I've read to page 4 but can't read anymore. You, OP, are the biggest cliches in the book. And one of the sad facts of that cliche is that the person doing the cheating is never able to take any responsibility for that fact. You don't deserve that so many people have taken the time to write what they think. All you want is for someone to tell you it's OK to have an affair and carry on as you are.

I'm 6 years on for my ex walking out on me, leaving me pregnant with our third child, for the woman he'd been having an affair with for many years. 6 years later he's had one woman a year. Lived with all of them, none of it lasted beyond the woman in question realising that rather than 'it was her, not me', it was, unfortunately, 'him, not her'.

I don't know if he's got what he wanted but I can assure you he's a very frustrated, angry and deeply unhappy man. I would say I am content - not re-married but dating when it suits. The children have adjusted - they know they can rely on me, they know that they can rely on their father to be unreliable and put them second when he's got a new woman on. I am working full time in a fulfilling but demanding professional role. I own my own home, pay my own bills. I have no regrets about the divorce and I see my ex today for the man he is, rather than the man I thought I had married. It is sad I wasted so much of my life on him but I am grateful that he walked when he did. I would do it differently, if I could and I had the benefit of hindsight and that says a lot about him - it wasn't worth it and I wouldn't repeat it. I know plenty of women who have been through similar - we all say the same. Their exs behave in much the same way as mine - non of them settled, all of them searching for who knows what but I would hazard a guess it was what they had before embarking on their affairs. Good luck!

Arewethereyet3 · 26/04/2014 19:41

Fedupbutfine if you're not going to read it all, I'm not reading your reply, so thanks and goodbye.

Obviously a good few of you have posted since the last post I made this morning. READ the whole lot. This is so repetitive it's annoying!

Two of the women I have had affairs with have slept with other women too and that's also what I meant by 'modern'
I found this naughty, but nice and also alluring. - shallow as hell as I am, huh?

No doubt that's going to raise some of your blood pressures. Please, take a deep breathe and watch x-factor or some other shit before you start your tirade of hatred spew.

One take away from the last few posts - that's new - is will I just repeat the same useless pattern with someone else (assuming that's the way it goes)?

That's equally depressing.

How the hell do women cope with their desires, when they arise with other men (or women)? Are they happy/content to just fantasise about that? If they do, is it whilst their husband is with them? Are they content to masterbate and leave it as a 'safer' fantasy?

How many of you would, I the opportunity arouse, sleep with that person?

Just asking.....

OP posts:
Offred · 26/04/2014 19:48

How the hell do women cope with their desires, when they arise with other men (or women)?

Well normal adults of both genders often make responsible choices to live lives which are consistently fulfilling but this can be personally difficult. Some people of both genders just focus on fulfilling their immediate desires in an ill thought out way which maybe yields a high level return which is very short lasting and has huge negative consequences in preventing them finding long term fulfillment.

AnyFucker · 26/04/2014 19:49

Ah, you simply want to talk about sex then, OP ?

quelle surprise

Offred · 26/04/2014 19:53

How old are the dc and how long have the affairs been going on?

EhricLovesTheBhrothers · 26/04/2014 19:53

Lol

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 26/04/2014 19:57
Purpleroxy · 26/04/2014 19:59

OP you don't have the right to ask people to read the whole thread containing more than 200 posts before they are allowed to post a reply on a public forum. Whilst you may choose to discard responses from people who have not had the time to read the whole thread, the thread and all the responses form part of the mumsnet "database" of conversations which lurkers (and the DM Grin) use as well. It's not all about you, although judging from some of your posts you may find that difficult to understand.

In fact, as a result of reading it, I revise my opinion from my earlier post where I basically thought you should work at it. I now think you should set your wife free by getting divorced and take multiple fuck buddies whenever the fancy takes you. Don't get involved in anything deeper than that because you will just hurt people in your immature quest for paradise.

knowledgeispower · 26/04/2014 20:01

Oh get a grip OP. Women sleeping with other women is not 'modern' in fact it's been happening since people existed.

The mind is a powerful tool when it comes to fantasy. Maybe you should try engaging yours?!

BeetlebumShesAGun · 26/04/2014 20:07

"No doubt that will raise some of your blood pressures"

Nope. I have slept with other women and had a relationship with one. Worked pretty much the same as any straight relationship, - no cheating!

AnyFucker · 26/04/2014 20:10

There is something being coaxed into life on this thread, and it ain't my blood pressure Smile

BeetlebumShesAGun · 26/04/2014 20:11

AF Grin good point fear I played into his hands!

VampyreofTimeandMemory · 26/04/2014 20:12

op, you're a loser, no wonder your dp doesn't wanna shag you.

AnyFucker · 26/04/2014 20:12

heh

his right hand is busy, I expect

punygod · 26/04/2014 20:24

I don't believe a word of this.

Two words - he wishes.

Pleasejustgo · 26/04/2014 20:26

Eew I bet he's wearing his pleather jacket too.

Sorry not helpful but I can't get the picture of a sad OP several years down the line, propped up on a seedy bar somewhere with his little pony reading Schopenhauer still trying to find the meaning of his wasted life.

Your poor children OP, you realise you're betraying them too.

TheLastNameLeft · 26/04/2014 20:30

Well, this was 9 pages of weirdness!

OP.. having read WHOLE THREAD..what do you want advice about? I sure as hell am not letting on about my fantasies!

punygod · 26/04/2014 20:33

Ooh, I'll tell you mine, OP.

It involves a wheel of Brie, a sturgeon and a can of WD40.

How's your blood pressure?

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 26/04/2014 20:36

I saw that one on Ready Steady Cook once, puny. It was messy.

punygod · 26/04/2014 20:38

Messy, yes.

In a gooooood way.

shitatusernames · 26/04/2014 20:44

If this is real then I hope to god his wife finds out and kicks this cheating knob out, not sure what sort of replies you were expecting.

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 26/04/2014 20:47