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Managing it all. Being happy & fulfilled. Affairs.

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Arewethereyet3 · 25/04/2014 15:07

Our relationship started being less sexual after our 2nd child. It was never the best sex I'd (or I'm sure she'd) had. We work well as a team. At the time I'd come out of a heavily sexual relationship-where the girl I was with was extremely highly sexed-as was I.

Now, we don't even sleep in the same room. I snore and come to bed late. She likes to go to bed early. We don't excite or may not even fully find each other attractive anymore.

Things have been going really well for us both with our careers but we have really grown apart and barely even manage to encourage each other anymore.

I've had a few affairs since our children were born. - they completely took me unawares. I just got chatting to a lovely woman who was passionate about food and cooking, it got late, I walked her home and we tore each other's clothes off outside her flat. I was clear that I only wanted sex. She said she was ok with this, but after about 6 months, she told me she'd fallen in love with me. I called it off-there was no way I was leaving my partner (we've been together 16 years, but not married).

Things were ok again for a while but then I found I really fell for a woman I was working with. We had great sex and really enjoyed each other. So much, that I was on the verge of leaving my partner for her. She however called it off and said that she wished she hadn't gotten involved-it was all too much at a time when she was mourning her brother's death and my situation.

My partner has clearly picked up that all is not well with us; probably knows that I've been unfaithful and right now thinks I'm just selfish and not giving enough time and thought to her and the children.

Neither of us want to rush into a situation we both regret. It'll be me that has to go. We have all our assets tied together, still show signs of fancying each other, still enjoy the comfort we get from coming home to someone after a hard day and knowing that there is money in the bank, good food on the table, happy confident children.

I cannot bare to leave my kids and I've seen how she struggles (as I do) when dealing with them/work etc all alone.

Yet, we both miss intimacy. We both miss sex. I have been seeing someone else. Typical cliche-she's much younger, sexy, extremely intelligent and beautiful. I don't want to start all over again-as flattering as all this attention is. But, it's not just an ego trip. It's not just sex. This woman offers a whole new experience and we only have one life.

I had a health scare a few years ago and it has made me realise how short life is to be unhappy or cause unhappiness.

My partner and I are unhappy with each other. There was a time when we were in love. Part of me felt as though I'd compromised on the sex issue-but I found sexy women difficult to cope with full time. No doubt she compromised a fair bit too.

We both love our kids so much and they will be taken care of however which way we go.

I don't want to trap my partner into accepting me as a man who has affairs. She wouldn't let that happen anyway. I don't even want to be a man that has affairs. I just want a good sex life, with passion and intense lovemaking. How do you sustain that over the years?

Is it wrong to deny yourself this?

We've been in this limbo for 6 months and there is no obvious direction to go in.

I'm not looking for advice I don't think. Just want to have a frank, open and honest conversation with someone going through the same.

If you're going to senselessly judge and transfer all your own frustrations with your partner, please don't. I'm not interested. If you intelligently want to share some ideas and experiences that are relevant, mature and 'modern' you're very welcome....

OP posts:
DownstairsMixUp · 26/04/2014 22:23

Oh god. Even your posts are dull. Is it possible to feel sorry for someone's wife JUST through posts on an internet forum?!

TalisaMaegyr · 26/04/2014 22:28

Who do you you think you are OP? Did you honestly expect any sympathy from the posters here? Your smug, pompous posts are just making you look like a prick.

Your situation is difficult. It's the way that you come over that's the problem.

Arewethereyet3 · 26/04/2014 22:36

I'm sorry. I guess I'm impatient with people who clearly haven't even understood the last para of my first post. I'm new to all this posting stuff. I suspected I'd get a whole load of abuse, but there's been more chaff than wheat.

If I'm being rude or direct, it's because I want post-jackers and judges in glass houses spewing over what is a real situation - as sodding tragic as it is - to annoy some other poster.

Also, the repetition (he says, knowingly repeating what I've said b4) is tedious.

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TheSlagOfSnacks · 26/04/2014 22:36

Lol. You're coming across someone who's too stupid to realise they're not as intelligent and sophisticated as they think they are.

I have a law degree and a PhD but I've never slept with a woman btw.

Come on, you're trolling aren't you?

BeetlebumShesAGun · 26/04/2014 22:36

Deluded, pretentious, self righteous... All words I'd use to describe this thread.

Ruralninja · 26/04/2014 22:39

There is a particular kind of cell-deep yawn that overtakes me with people like the OP - he feels special, deep, more interesting and subtle than the rest of us. The reality is more prosaic. Predictable, crass and selfish. Has he a daughter? Would he want this unmitigated crap for her?

Arewethereyet3 · 26/04/2014 22:44

Beetlebum ok. I can admit I am those things.

Slag... It's not a fucking wind up/troll/whatever.

I have just put my kids to bed and almost gone right in to tell my DP (that's dear partner, right?) that I'd had affairs....
I didn't cause I fucking bottled it....

That's what's going on here. Now, can we stop with the faking stuff!

Thing that went through my head was: 'if she'd had an affair, I really wouldn't want her to tell me.' Yes, sure, that may be me justifying my actions (rather inactions). But, in that moment, I didn't. There's too much to lose....

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Freckletoes · 26/04/2014 22:48

There is an article doing the rounds at the moment-was written back in August by Gerald Rogers entitled "My advice after a divorce following sixteen years of marriage". I suggest you google and read it. It is all very well quoting theories and works that apply nicely to your behaviour as an attempt to excuse it (Maslow etc)-but you may well gain more from this pragmatic but poignant piece.

JonesTheSteam · 26/04/2014 22:48

OP.

You make my DH (whose 5 month affair was discovered 3 months ago, and who is currently doing EVERYTHING he can to work out why he's been such a selfish bastard) look like a saint!

Thank you! :-D

On a more serious note, grow the fuck up and leave your poor wife so she can find someone who loves her and treats her with respect and kindness.

Ruralninja · 26/04/2014 22:52

OP loves himself so much

LittleMissMarker · 26/04/2014 22:59

I’m not surprised you bottled it. You have a lot to lose. Your wife doesn’t. She has already lost everything that matters in your marriage, apart from the house and the kids, which (you say) she will keep anyway.

All you have to do is print out the thread, write “I am Arewethereyet3” at the top and hand the papers to her.

She will do all the rest. Job done.

Arewethereyet3 · 26/04/2014 23:03

I've read the piece. It's a beautiful ideal. Clearly I've failed on points 6, 16...actually most of the blighters!
I think I've heard of one guy in our neighbourhood who probably does most of these things.....I'm sure she loves him very much and feels very special daily.

I wish I had it in me.

It was written by a man. Is it the same deal for a woman...?

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EBearhug · 26/04/2014 23:16

It's the same for people. Male, female, gay, straight.

waterlego6064 · 26/04/2014 23:24

Ewwww. I don't like that article. It's nauseous. If a bloke was like that with me, I'd feel suffocated and irritated.

This bit is awful:

12) BE WILLING TO TAKE HER SEXUALLY, to carry her away in the power of your masculine presence, to consume her and devour her with your strength, and to penetrate her to the deepest levels of her soul. Let her melt into her feminine softness as she knows she can trust you fully.

Yuck. Not all women want to be dominated sexually.

UnexpectedlySingle · 26/04/2014 23:33

Pahahahahaha

DawnMumsnet · 26/04/2014 23:41

Hi all,

We've had a fair few reports about this thread tonight.

We're going to close it for a bit while we take a look.

DawnMumsnet · 27/04/2014 15:13

Hi again,

Just letting you all know that we've suspended the OP while we take a look into things, but will be unlocking the thread now.

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 27/04/2014 15:14

Well, blow me down...

AnyFucker · 27/04/2014 16:42

< biiiig raspberry >

UnexpectedlySingle · 27/04/2014 16:55

Ooo suspended him? Why??

Took me all afternoon to read this thread!

punygod · 27/04/2014 20:33

Wow. I just tried to find that Gerald Rogers article and clicked on a google link.

I got some pretty horrid porn Blush

Just a warning...

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