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Managing it all. Being happy & fulfilled. Affairs.

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Arewethereyet3 · 25/04/2014 15:07

Our relationship started being less sexual after our 2nd child. It was never the best sex I'd (or I'm sure she'd) had. We work well as a team. At the time I'd come out of a heavily sexual relationship-where the girl I was with was extremely highly sexed-as was I.

Now, we don't even sleep in the same room. I snore and come to bed late. She likes to go to bed early. We don't excite or may not even fully find each other attractive anymore.

Things have been going really well for us both with our careers but we have really grown apart and barely even manage to encourage each other anymore.

I've had a few affairs since our children were born. - they completely took me unawares. I just got chatting to a lovely woman who was passionate about food and cooking, it got late, I walked her home and we tore each other's clothes off outside her flat. I was clear that I only wanted sex. She said she was ok with this, but after about 6 months, she told me she'd fallen in love with me. I called it off-there was no way I was leaving my partner (we've been together 16 years, but not married).

Things were ok again for a while but then I found I really fell for a woman I was working with. We had great sex and really enjoyed each other. So much, that I was on the verge of leaving my partner for her. She however called it off and said that she wished she hadn't gotten involved-it was all too much at a time when she was mourning her brother's death and my situation.

My partner has clearly picked up that all is not well with us; probably knows that I've been unfaithful and right now thinks I'm just selfish and not giving enough time and thought to her and the children.

Neither of us want to rush into a situation we both regret. It'll be me that has to go. We have all our assets tied together, still show signs of fancying each other, still enjoy the comfort we get from coming home to someone after a hard day and knowing that there is money in the bank, good food on the table, happy confident children.

I cannot bare to leave my kids and I've seen how she struggles (as I do) when dealing with them/work etc all alone.

Yet, we both miss intimacy. We both miss sex. I have been seeing someone else. Typical cliche-she's much younger, sexy, extremely intelligent and beautiful. I don't want to start all over again-as flattering as all this attention is. But, it's not just an ego trip. It's not just sex. This woman offers a whole new experience and we only have one life.

I had a health scare a few years ago and it has made me realise how short life is to be unhappy or cause unhappiness.

My partner and I are unhappy with each other. There was a time when we were in love. Part of me felt as though I'd compromised on the sex issue-but I found sexy women difficult to cope with full time. No doubt she compromised a fair bit too.

We both love our kids so much and they will be taken care of however which way we go.

I don't want to trap my partner into accepting me as a man who has affairs. She wouldn't let that happen anyway. I don't even want to be a man that has affairs. I just want a good sex life, with passion and intense lovemaking. How do you sustain that over the years?

Is it wrong to deny yourself this?

We've been in this limbo for 6 months and there is no obvious direction to go in.

I'm not looking for advice I don't think. Just want to have a frank, open and honest conversation with someone going through the same.

If you're going to senselessly judge and transfer all your own frustrations with your partner, please don't. I'm not interested. If you intelligently want to share some ideas and experiences that are relevant, mature and 'modern' you're very welcome....

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evenafterall · 26/04/2014 20:48

Hmm ... you appear to lack commitment. Not much to add really, everything you've described seems to stem from that. What you do makes you unfulfilled, I would advise , instead of waiting around for some sort of a miracle, that you consider what is important to you and what your duties ( yes unfashionable but true - duties) are. Otherwise you won't be happy.

Intimacy is not what you seem to think it is. Try trusting and liking your partner. And don't expect that somebody will come along and rescue you somehow...Confused

I wonder if most men think in a similar way to you and that's what makes them so alone in the end.

punygod · 26/04/2014 20:51

Oh, and I don't know if anyone else mentioned it as I can't be bothered to read your ridiculous attention-seeking thread, but you actually can't bear to leave your children. Not "bare".

HTH.

Arewethereyet3 · 26/04/2014 20:55

Another epsilon's comment: 'is this 4 real'? Yes, it's or real you dimwit!

Not intersted in any of your fantasies, just the general principle FFS.

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punygod · 26/04/2014 20:58

You're a misogynist, OP.

scottishmummy · 26/04/2014 21:03

You cannot set parameters stating you only want affirmative answers on your thread
If you only want your arse kissed why bother asking strangers their opinion

EBearhug · 26/04/2014 21:08

One take away from the last few posts - that's new - is will I just repeat the same useless pattern with someone else (assuming that's the way it goes)?

That's equally depressing.

But it is how it will be unless you decide to change it.

Have you talked to your wife about how things are? Have either of you (singly or together) tried counselling? Or did you just move into another room to get some more sleep and never actually talk about it again? Have you tried rebuilding intimacy (intimacy, not sex), by just giving her a hug sometimes, anything like that?

You have a responsibility for how your marriage is. Face up to it, rather than hiding in empty affairs. Be honest with your wife - you may not be able to fix things, but you certainly won't if you never talk about how things are, and if it turns out you can't make things any better, then it's better to face up to that and deal with it.

scottishmummy · 26/04/2014 21:11

You chose to cheat,because opportunity presents and you dont have any qualms

Fairyliz · 26/04/2014 21:12

Will this be in Wednesdays DM with the op staring moodily into the distance with the collar of his pleather jacket turned up?

Arewethereyet3 · 26/04/2014 21:14

I don't think lesbianism is modern-wise up! It seemed that trying out the same sex or having a 3 way etc almost seem like rights of passage amoungst certain open minded, spirited and highly educated people....

I know this is not 'modern' either-look at the Bloomsbury set.

I'm willing to accept that I may be misogynistic, but how do you justify that claim?

Drink problem-what's your point caller?!

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punygod · 26/04/2014 21:16

You just don't seem to like women very much.

To be fair, you might be just a misanthrope. Either way, you come across as unpleasant.

FrontForward · 26/04/2014 21:16

I don't want to trap my partner into accepting me as a man who has affairs. She wouldn't let that happen anyway
It appears you already have

I don't even want to be a man that has affairs
Good intentions are pointless. It's what you do that counts

I just want a good sex life, with passion and intense lovemaking
Leave the wife and go and find it then

How do you sustain that over the years
Not by having affairs. To me it just sounds as if you're not cut out for monogamy or marriage. Leave and be single. Pursue sex and be happy.

Let your wife find what she wants. You are holding her back right now

FrontForward · 26/04/2014 21:18

You are in denial that you are the problem here. You are just not cut out for a marriage. Stop blaming everyone else and except who you are. I think AF had it about right with leather jacket and ponytail.

CheeryName · 26/04/2014 21:19

Here's an intelligent idea: admit to your wife that you are a liar and cheat.

waterlego6064 · 26/04/2014 21:29

rites of passage, you mean.

What the hell does it matter what everyone else is up to in the bedroom? It has no bearing on your own sex life.

Re fantasies an temptations, here's an idea: why d

waterlego6064 · 26/04/2014 21:31

Why don't you go and ask your wife what her fantasies are? Or what she does when she feels tempted by another man?

I would be willing to bet she has been tempted by someone else at some point.

There's no point asking a load of strangers what we do with our fantasies and temptations; it is of no relevance to you.

OscarWinningActress · 26/04/2014 21:33

You're narcissistic and morally bankrupt.

HTH.

rowna · 26/04/2014 21:40

There comes a time in life where, if you have dc, you put them first. Sadly this realisation has passed you by. It is not all about you.

DownstairsMixUp · 26/04/2014 22:01

Being a lesbian is "modern?" God it's a miracle how you got one woman to sleep with you let alone these others.

KiaOraOAotearoa · 26/04/2014 22:02

OP, being intimate with someone and enjoying it is different from eating a good meal/closing a deal on your terms etc.
How you put it, the meal at the home restaurant is ok-ish, if a bit bland and not enough of. Do you stop going at that restaurant?
Well, it is not a restaurant. She's your partner. A person with feelings, self respect, mother of your children. She's not 'interesting' anymore because she is busy raising two children and putting up with a man with no emotional intelligence.

That's what I understand from your posts. You're fed up with suburban domesticated life, you fancy something more exotic, threesomes etc.It's called midlife crisis. There are plenty of jokes about that. Sleeping around doesn't make you interesting.

I'd be interested to learn how was your parents' relationship. You say you have no moral compass. You also think nobody has a moral compass. You're deluded. Imagine one of your children coming home and declaring this s**t at the dinner table:Sod the moral compass, it's sooo overrated! I'll just do whatever suits me, sod the rest of you.
Would you like that?
What kind of example do you set? Would you look at them and think:yeah, that's what I do, that's what my children learn from me, I am happy, they will be just as happy as me.

Basically, who do you 'save'/put first: yourself or your children?

TheSlagOfSnacks · 26/04/2014 22:05

Oh god OP you're such a twat.

You're the sort of person I live in fear of being seated next to at a dinner party.

Arewethereyet3 · 26/04/2014 22:21

Well slagofsnacks I was hoping for a more erudite response, but if that's all you can offer I wish you love, peace and joy...

Why do you think I'm a misanthrope, puny god? I love human kind and am beginning to embrace all their complexities, frailties, failures etc

What I hate is deluded, pretentious, bigoted, phobic, self-righteous, hypocrites.....

Everyone else is fine by me...

What does THT stand for?

Some moron/same moron harping on about a ponytail...(yawn) another poster yapping about 'modern'
Someone else harping on about it's not about YOU...

It's annoying sifting through the chaff. There's a lot of it! (And let me get in there first - yes, most of the chaff is from me ;)

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EhricLovesTheBhrothers · 26/04/2014 22:22

Ugh. You really are a dull dickhead. You don't deserve erudite, you aren't interesting enough.

Arewethereyet3 · 26/04/2014 22:23

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