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Managing it all. Being happy & fulfilled. Affairs.

271 replies

Arewethereyet3 · 25/04/2014 15:07

Our relationship started being less sexual after our 2nd child. It was never the best sex I'd (or I'm sure she'd) had. We work well as a team. At the time I'd come out of a heavily sexual relationship-where the girl I was with was extremely highly sexed-as was I.

Now, we don't even sleep in the same room. I snore and come to bed late. She likes to go to bed early. We don't excite or may not even fully find each other attractive anymore.

Things have been going really well for us both with our careers but we have really grown apart and barely even manage to encourage each other anymore.

I've had a few affairs since our children were born. - they completely took me unawares. I just got chatting to a lovely woman who was passionate about food and cooking, it got late, I walked her home and we tore each other's clothes off outside her flat. I was clear that I only wanted sex. She said she was ok with this, but after about 6 months, she told me she'd fallen in love with me. I called it off-there was no way I was leaving my partner (we've been together 16 years, but not married).

Things were ok again for a while but then I found I really fell for a woman I was working with. We had great sex and really enjoyed each other. So much, that I was on the verge of leaving my partner for her. She however called it off and said that she wished she hadn't gotten involved-it was all too much at a time when she was mourning her brother's death and my situation.

My partner has clearly picked up that all is not well with us; probably knows that I've been unfaithful and right now thinks I'm just selfish and not giving enough time and thought to her and the children.

Neither of us want to rush into a situation we both regret. It'll be me that has to go. We have all our assets tied together, still show signs of fancying each other, still enjoy the comfort we get from coming home to someone after a hard day and knowing that there is money in the bank, good food on the table, happy confident children.

I cannot bare to leave my kids and I've seen how she struggles (as I do) when dealing with them/work etc all alone.

Yet, we both miss intimacy. We both miss sex. I have been seeing someone else. Typical cliche-she's much younger, sexy, extremely intelligent and beautiful. I don't want to start all over again-as flattering as all this attention is. But, it's not just an ego trip. It's not just sex. This woman offers a whole new experience and we only have one life.

I had a health scare a few years ago and it has made me realise how short life is to be unhappy or cause unhappiness.

My partner and I are unhappy with each other. There was a time when we were in love. Part of me felt as though I'd compromised on the sex issue-but I found sexy women difficult to cope with full time. No doubt she compromised a fair bit too.

We both love our kids so much and they will be taken care of however which way we go.

I don't want to trap my partner into accepting me as a man who has affairs. She wouldn't let that happen anyway. I don't even want to be a man that has affairs. I just want a good sex life, with passion and intense lovemaking. How do you sustain that over the years?

Is it wrong to deny yourself this?

We've been in this limbo for 6 months and there is no obvious direction to go in.

I'm not looking for advice I don't think. Just want to have a frank, open and honest conversation with someone going through the same.

If you're going to senselessly judge and transfer all your own frustrations with your partner, please don't. I'm not interested. If you intelligently want to share some ideas and experiences that are relevant, mature and 'modern' you're very welcome....

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Offred · 25/04/2014 21:41

Yeah a modern relationship might be polyamorous, bisexual, open maybe? As pp said locking a woman into a LTR and then cheating behind her back is a pretty archaic and misogynistic approach to relationships.

Hooked - I am annoyed if they're grateful. I like a bit of fight... Although that may just be a reaction to relationship with xh who was very unconfident. Current bf is a little too grateful. Once woke up to him kissing my head over and over with me in a headlock saying "I love you, I love you" and he says stupid things like "I feel so lucky"... It gets annoying...

Offred · 25/04/2014 21:42

What was the point of the triangle op? Come on curiosity and cats and all that!

Arewethereyet3 · 25/04/2014 21:42

Wouldn't it be great to have enduring consummate love-who'd settle for anything less?

I think I have. My partner has. Sometimes anything less is not right for certain types.

How many of you have self actualised? (Search Maslow's hierarchy of innate needs)

FTR I may sound 'entitled' I'm not. I just can't put up with anyone's shit

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AgentSchraeder · 25/04/2014 21:45

getthefeck is making my night.

So, I don't agree with you, OP, presumably that makes me vacuous and in need of an education? Funny, that.

Enjoy your midlife crisis. Have you had an I'll advised ear piercing yet?

AnyFucker · 25/04/2014 21:45

Nah, you just sound like a nob

AgentSchraeder · 25/04/2014 21:47

How are you self actualised? You se to be basing a lot of your self worth on your ability to dupe your wife and pull beautiful young women. Sounds like a stellar long term life plan, that

Offred · 25/04/2014 21:51

Yes being entitled is where you don't put up with other people having needs like being treated with honesty and respect but demand your needs be met...

Oh Maslow and his heirarchy of 'needs'...

You do sound more than a little unhinged now op!

You know I have been saying all along if what you've been after is a bit of 'self-actualisation' you've absolutely been going about it the wrong way. It's such a cliche, you realise don't you - this stuff about self actualisation and consummate relationships in relation to the reality of your life?!

TondelayoSchwarzkopf · 25/04/2014 21:57

Is it me or does the OP sound like a Fast Show character? Played by John Thompson or maybe Simon Day.

Pleasejustgo · 25/04/2014 21:58

OP will have us all chanting in a minute.

Pleather jacket, pony tail and an earring.

OP you need to be a brave boy now and have an honest conversation ... Oh wait... Honest, yes silly me.

LavenderGreen14 · 25/04/2014 21:59

You can dress it up how you like - but the bottom line is you are unfaithful and you are cheating. If you want to shag around separate and do it as a single man. Perhaps then your wife can find someone who is nice and honest and treats her with the kindness and respect she deserves.

Purpleroxy · 25/04/2014 22:01

OP, I think you are missing some really basic points here.

Having a family, marriage/partnership, career, home to run etc is really very hard work for both parties. Essentially you cannot expect to "have it all" all of the time. You seem to be expecting life to be completely perfect, passion filled and amazing (like a TV program or some sort of fiction) when in reality, work is needed on your marriage/partnership. Work is needed on any marriage that's been going on for 16 years and has faced a variety of strains (all pretty standard).

So, ironically by addressing your lack of passion, you make things even worse at home. You are searching for something unattainable. You need to work at your current primary life and stop living a secondary life with others. Don't expect results overnight. Do you think that if you moved out to be with a soul mate (tongue in cheek) that life would be better? You'd have to contribute (financially and practically) to two sets of lives/homes/existances. And then the strains would be even heavier and your soul mate passion will decline etc.

I am going to name call as well but this is intended as constructive criticism. You are weak and short sighted having these affairs. Change both these things - be strong enough to resist the cheap thrills and think about the long term impact of them.

Offred · 25/04/2014 22:02

They aren't married I don't think so that makes it even worse if she has sacrificed career for the greater role she appears to have played in the dc life. :/

Anyway, I think it may well be that he enjoys the life he has with his partner and wants that and being unfaithful which really is about achieving the effect of that ultimate relationship bollocks he posted without having to put effort in.

Quitelikely · 25/04/2014 22:06

It seems like you're ready to take a new path in life........but also afraid that you're making a mistake in leaving your wife and children behind...............

I'm not sure that anyone has passionate sex forever, apparently it always calms down. It will happen to you time and again. There is much more to life and a relationship than sex.

I'm not sure that you deserve your wife. You just want a randy young thing to stroke your thingy and your ego. And it will work like that for a time but eventually the excitement fades. It always does. You just can't seem to accept that.

Good luck. Try to free your wife to at least meet someone who she deserves

waterlego6064 · 25/04/2014 22:12

How many of you have self actualised? (Search Maslow's hierarchy of innate needs)

Bless @ the mansplaining.

TheSlagOfSnacks · 25/04/2014 22:12

OP you are such a cliche.

Maslow's hierarchy of needs. Lol.

If you have an affair that means you think your egotistical needs are more important than your obligations or responsibilities towards your family.

Which makes you selfish and not very nice.

TheSlagOfSnacks · 25/04/2014 22:16

Update: I've just self-actualised. Now I'm off to fuck someone behind my partner's back.

LittleMissMarker · 25/04/2014 22:18

Consummate love? Nice triangle, but your relationship with your DW seems to lack all three points. No intimacy, no passion, and your only commitment seems to be that you wont actually move out. Epic fail.

Neither my partner nor I have decided for sure how to work it all out. She knows about one of the affairs.

I expect that if you tell your partner about the other two affairs she will be pretty sure what to do next. Like I said, the simplest way forward would be to show her your initial posting and let her take things from there. Indeed show her all your postings – that should make her mind up pronto.

Monogamy is bloody difficult I'd say.

For you clearly, but not for everyone. Your partner may well find monogamy a lot easier than you do, and she might find it easier still with a more naturally monogamous partner, or even a more naturally honest and moral partner, which you admit yourself you’re not. You seem to be a bit of a “dog in the manger” – you know can’t have a happy honest monogamous relationship with your wife but darned if you’ll tell her so and thereby set her free to go off and find someone else who could. At the moment she probably still thinks the two of you have a chance of happiness together. If she knew the whole truth about you, she’d know that there isn’t any hope.

Inside, my soul sings at times.

Well, that’s nice for you.

And the woman made up her mind to walk away anyway.

Look on the bright side: at least there’s been one wise woman in your life. You just don't have much to offer. Keep on with the counselling.

Minime85 · 25/04/2014 22:19

thins has got to be a wind up. surely.

Minime85 · 25/04/2014 22:19

this even!

knowledgeispower · 25/04/2014 22:23

I'll break it down in 4 easy steps:

  1. Take ones head out of ones arshole
  2. Get off Mumsnet
  3. Engage with partner
  4. Come to a decision
TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 25/04/2014 22:23

Where's SGB, anyway?

Slag, don't forget your pot noodle - keep your energy up!

Arewethereyet3 · 25/04/2014 22:42

Quite likely good points, well made...

Just been reading to my kids for past hour. Will bloody miss doing that every night if I leave :-(

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whatsthatcomingoverthehill · 25/04/2014 22:43

OP, there are plenty of 'modern' relationships, such as polyamory, open etc. But in my understanding all of these rely on partners being extremely honest with each other. If anything they need to be more open than 'normal' monogamous relationships.

If you want to carry on shagging other women, then why not ask her if she's OK with it. It's unlikely, but you never know.

Offred · 25/04/2014 22:47

Why would you not read to your kids just because you live somewhere else?

My xh reads to them every night except Thursday when he is in London (but he has always been in London on Thursdays).

BeetlebumShesAGun · 25/04/2014 22:47

*Been reading to my kids for last hour. Will bloody miss that if I leave"

Did this not occur to you when you were planning to leave your wife during one of your affairs? Or when you started the next one?

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