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Managing it all. Being happy & fulfilled. Affairs.

271 replies

Arewethereyet3 · 25/04/2014 15:07

Our relationship started being less sexual after our 2nd child. It was never the best sex I'd (or I'm sure she'd) had. We work well as a team. At the time I'd come out of a heavily sexual relationship-where the girl I was with was extremely highly sexed-as was I.

Now, we don't even sleep in the same room. I snore and come to bed late. She likes to go to bed early. We don't excite or may not even fully find each other attractive anymore.

Things have been going really well for us both with our careers but we have really grown apart and barely even manage to encourage each other anymore.

I've had a few affairs since our children were born. - they completely took me unawares. I just got chatting to a lovely woman who was passionate about food and cooking, it got late, I walked her home and we tore each other's clothes off outside her flat. I was clear that I only wanted sex. She said she was ok with this, but after about 6 months, she told me she'd fallen in love with me. I called it off-there was no way I was leaving my partner (we've been together 16 years, but not married).

Things were ok again for a while but then I found I really fell for a woman I was working with. We had great sex and really enjoyed each other. So much, that I was on the verge of leaving my partner for her. She however called it off and said that she wished she hadn't gotten involved-it was all too much at a time when she was mourning her brother's death and my situation.

My partner has clearly picked up that all is not well with us; probably knows that I've been unfaithful and right now thinks I'm just selfish and not giving enough time and thought to her and the children.

Neither of us want to rush into a situation we both regret. It'll be me that has to go. We have all our assets tied together, still show signs of fancying each other, still enjoy the comfort we get from coming home to someone after a hard day and knowing that there is money in the bank, good food on the table, happy confident children.

I cannot bare to leave my kids and I've seen how she struggles (as I do) when dealing with them/work etc all alone.

Yet, we both miss intimacy. We both miss sex. I have been seeing someone else. Typical cliche-she's much younger, sexy, extremely intelligent and beautiful. I don't want to start all over again-as flattering as all this attention is. But, it's not just an ego trip. It's not just sex. This woman offers a whole new experience and we only have one life.

I had a health scare a few years ago and it has made me realise how short life is to be unhappy or cause unhappiness.

My partner and I are unhappy with each other. There was a time when we were in love. Part of me felt as though I'd compromised on the sex issue-but I found sexy women difficult to cope with full time. No doubt she compromised a fair bit too.

We both love our kids so much and they will be taken care of however which way we go.

I don't want to trap my partner into accepting me as a man who has affairs. She wouldn't let that happen anyway. I don't even want to be a man that has affairs. I just want a good sex life, with passion and intense lovemaking. How do you sustain that over the years?

Is it wrong to deny yourself this?

We've been in this limbo for 6 months and there is no obvious direction to go in.

I'm not looking for advice I don't think. Just want to have a frank, open and honest conversation with someone going through the same.

If you're going to senselessly judge and transfer all your own frustrations with your partner, please don't. I'm not interested. If you intelligently want to share some ideas and experiences that are relevant, mature and 'modern' you're very welcome....

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TheSlagOfSnacks · 25/04/2014 18:09

Because the OP is lazy and scared.

If he was 'free' to be happy, he'd also have to live alone, do his own washing and cooking, keep his own place tidy, tolerate his own company, find ways to occupy himself that didn't involve relying on a woman for entertainment, etc.

Much easier to stay in the marriage and just shag around.

WildBill · 25/04/2014 18:33

Not sure where you get that conclusion from Offred but I can see I've hit a nerve. You post detailing your 'split' from H then goes on to outline how he now lives over the road and how you cook him breakfast and tea everyday. How you still chat and make each other laugh, how you spend leisure and family time together...so you are happy now that basically you just don't share a bed?... You are still clinging on to all the benefits of marriage but excluding the intimacy - How long do you see this set up going on for? Just curious......

OP just separate and be done with it.

Offred · 25/04/2014 18:39

I got that conclusion from you saying you knowledge must be single because you couldn't understand how someone in a relationship and a high sex drive could go five years without sex. That does rather imply you have forgotten that the other half of the couple has a say.

We have separated thanks. I've got a boyfriend and we don't socialise together without the children, we just haven't split up acrimoniously. We're still a family, we've just ended out romantic relationship with each other. It will probably continue in a similar vein as the children grow, related to their ages. At the moment they are all quite young.

I can see why you might think all splits are acrimonious if your experience is that people often stay in sexless relationships and then cheat because that would make for an acrimonious split.

onedayatatimeLondon · 25/04/2014 19:08

I think you should talk to her rather than seek justification for your actions from a bunch of strangers.

I am not judging you just suggesting you owe you partner and children the respect that an honest conversation about what both you and she want and take it from there.

If i may share my thoughts? Stop posting here and talk to your partner.

FallingOverToys · 25/04/2014 19:11

Offred

DP and I talked about that once - if we split up, we'd get a local 2 bed place and rotate living in that with living in the house with the kids, certainly initially.

Luckily it all worked out for us so never got to test the plan but I hope you and XP continue to co parent happily.

Offred · 25/04/2014 19:34

Yes, sure we will thanks! Can only work well I think if there really are no significant bad feelings and you each have private space, respect for each other, you divide the time and roles and are committed to making it work but it seems to be going ok for us.

getthefeckouttahere · 25/04/2014 19:44

hey come on your being harsh posters,

its not his fault

  1. his dw goes to bed early
  2. these affairs caught him unawares. (a bit like those street charity collectors i imagine?)
  3. He has had a health scare, that taught him life is too short to be unhappy. (or faithful, obv)

I think you have presented a powerful and modern argument for your behaviour. you crack on son.

Rebecca2014 · 25/04/2014 19:51

Just leave if your so unhappy. How do you think your children would feel knowing their dad was cheating on their beloved mother?

Just leave.

Arewethereyet3 · 25/04/2014 20:23

Some really fair comments on here. I've read thru them all. Some are obviously written (as I suspected) by people projecting their own shit; some making assumptions beyond belief; some desperate for any shade of grey to be made black or white NOW or the sodding world will fall in.

Some have made some really useful comments-so, thank you those who can see beyond the obvious and vacuous cliches.

However, in trying to be concise in the first place, I've missed some detail....

Neither my partner nor I have decided for sure how to work it all out. She knows about one of the affairs. There have been 3. I don't think she's been unfaithful, if she has, I wouldn't blame her and I wouldn't blame her for not telling me either. I get it. I don't need to know. Monogamy is bloody difficult I'd say.

I don't know if I've ever respected anyone all the time. I've no sense of duty-no allengence to anything other than something of merit.

I have no moral compass and doubt anyone who claims to.

We are at times happier than a lot of boring and bored couples we socialise with. I'm bored with property prices, what sodding car someone drives, what school their kids are getting into, how well little johnnies doing....

Inside, my soul sings at times. We laugh. We share. We joke. We play games. My kids are assertive testaments to how well we (but admittedly, mainly mum) have brought them up.

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FallingOverToys · 25/04/2014 20:28

"Neither my partner nor I have decided for sure how to work it all out. She knows about one of the affairs. There have been 3."

Why doesn't she know about all 3? And what did you agree after you told her about 1 (or did she find out)?

It's ok to find monogamy hard. It's ok to opt for a different kind of relationship. But it's better if you both know that, surely?

AnyFucker · 25/04/2014 20:36

Your ego knows no bounds Grin

Minime85 · 25/04/2014 20:38

so are you saying then you have no allegiance to your wife as she is not of 'merit'?

as in allegiance to stick by your vows?

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 25/04/2014 20:38

You didn't like "assertive testaments", AF?

That's going in my MN dictionary.

AnyFucker · 25/04/2014 20:39

OP has certainly coined some memorable phrases Grin

Jesuisunepapillon · 25/04/2014 20:40

I feel so lucky to be single right now. Holy Cheesus.

Arewethereyet3 · 25/04/2014 20:41

Because I almost left her for the 2nd, but even then I wasn't sure. I fell in love, but was afraid that it may not have worked out long-term. Call it a mid-life crisis. I thought I wanted another life. Now I'm not so sure. And the woman made up her mind to walk away anyway.

She didn't find out about 1. I told her as it was it that made me ill. It was hard living a lie.

But...here I am again...living a lie. But, we're not. We both know things are wrong. We're at a crossroads. It's taken this long. We'd be fools to rush into a decision that is going to wreck our way of life. But, I realise, to do this I should tell her about the other affairs. (Damn it. She knows.) we both have agreed that if we split, we have to be fair-our kids will make sure of that.

So, it may be that it is all over and we need to sort out logistics.

BTW I am facing up to this. I am seeing a counsellor about it. It too takes time. I've invited my partner to come too, but she's choosing not to just now. That's fine too.

OP posts:
TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 25/04/2014 20:41
AnyFucker · 25/04/2014 20:42

just below assbadger and above "cockwomble"

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 25/04/2014 20:43

Have you finished with woman number 3?

Arewethereyet3 · 25/04/2014 20:45

I'm not going to answer any of the dicks on this site. Do yourselves a favour and get an education

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TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 25/04/2014 20:47

If that was directed at me, that's your call.

But if you are going to counselling and wondering if you can save the marriage, still being with woman 3 seems... counterproductive.

Alphabollocks · 25/04/2014 20:49

Well perhaps you don't have a moral compass, OP, but most people know the difference between right and wrong. Personally I would finish one relationship before starting another, but hey, that's just my preference.
Your poor partner and kids. Hope she ends up with someone who is not an entitled twat.

BeetlebumShesAGun · 25/04/2014 20:52

OP I'm genuinely confused as to what you thought would happen when you posted this on a website predominantantly used by women who are bringing up families. Did you think there would be people cheering you on or giving you tips on how to conduct affairs?

Obviously I'm not expecting a reply as I'm a dick. I will go back and "get an education" - in what I wonder? Mid life crisis 101?

AnyFucker · 25/04/2014 20:53
Grin
BeetlebumShesAGun · 25/04/2014 20:53

Oh man typo fail. Predominantly. Blush

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