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Last straw - Married Man - TMI

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heartshaped · 15/04/2014 18:50

I'm so sorry, I am in an affair (myself single). It is loving, I love him and he says the same wholeheartedly (I know the script, i've read up, I can't recognise it at the moment). Only recently have I pushed him to consider leaving his wife, though I previously thought I was okay with things as they were - loving attentive guy, real kindred spirits in every way but I have fallen deep so pushed things. Last night he came over, I thought to stay, we had anal sex (sorry for tmi) which I have never done, and then he left me on my own to go home to his wife. I'm feel so so gutted and used. He's texting all day please can we meet up, why aren't I talking to him but I feel dreadful, drained and dead.

OP posts:
KathrynJaneway · 15/04/2014 23:21

'I hope if you do end it you tell his wife about him cheating and having sex unprotected.

I feel more and more sorry for his wife as this goes on .'

I think you both need sti checks I really do. He has zero care for either of you it would not be surprising in the least if he was screwing others too, he sounds like a horrible horrible man. Ya know what, if I was his wife I would want the ow to tell me he was having unprotected sex, it would kill me but I would want to know.

CaptainAmericaMmmYesPlease · 15/04/2014 23:22

For what? So OP can win her 'prize' and the faceless, nameless wife and kids are just collateral damage. Safely tucked into OP's compartment.
A prize dick and the woman who encourages him to leave his family. They deserve each other.

ElseaStars · 15/04/2014 23:26

heartshaped you have a lot to think about. You need to think about the bigger picture - all the what ifs not just the I wants. That includes your partners wife and kids. I have a feeling you don't know their ages or about them much as your partner doesn't like to talk about them when he is with you.

heartshaped · 15/04/2014 23:28

I do know their ages and we do talk about them. I don't want to say their ages on here Elsea.

OP posts:
Pinkballoon · 15/04/2014 23:33

I noticed that someone posted earlier saying that they counsel children who have suffered from family break ups. It might be a good idea to get their perspective on how they might fare in the future as a result of all of this (if it all comes out), before you think about a relationship in the future with this man. Aside from everything that his wife will go through emotionally. Plus all the financial upheavals and disruption for the family - maybe house and school moves for the children if there isn't enough money to go round, maybe court appearances for the wife, etc.

ElseaStars · 15/04/2014 23:33

How can you block them out? That must be hard. The more I think about your situation the sadder I feel. I wish you could find a nice, strong, single man and fall madly in love. You are being stringed a long. I know quite a few women that have but didn't notice until it was to late (including my mum). Give him an ultimatum - no matter how scared/used you feel. If you really love EACH OTHER he will give you what you want. But would you really want him knowing he could do all this to you one day?

EvenBetter · 15/04/2014 23:33

He's not her 'partner', he's so some else's husband. He's just someone who has sex with her.
I see someone waaaaay up thread said the mistress script phrase of not everything's black and white'/no ones perfect/haven't you made a mistake? It is black and white, you do to have to be anywhere near perfect to not have sex with unavailable people! and a 'mistake' is not something that's repeated every single day for extended periods... That's a lifestyle choice.

Nothing to say to the OP that hasn't already been said, and don't see the point of this thread really. If she wanted to stop their sex all she has to do is not contact him again. Except to say 'do not contact me again.' It's not a relationship, no one on either side owes anything, it really is that easy.

NurseyWursey · 15/04/2014 23:35

People block things out because it makes things easier to deal with. We all do it. When the OP finally thinks about them and the wife, the effects this affair can have on that family.. then I think she might be closer to her decision.

HenI5 · 15/04/2014 23:38

Admittedly skipped from P1
It felt like he would rather me feel like complete and utter crap than face the heat from his wife for staying out all night

OP I don't think you need any advice, I think you know absolutely what's what.

IMO the guys a massive taker who will use any woman - his wife, his mistress(es) any other woman who comes his way who'll do what he wants regardless of how it leaves her feeling - and he doesn't give a damn about how they end up.
You've been on the receiving end of that and you didn't like it.

End it with him. It's no road to happiness.

lunar1 · 15/04/2014 23:40

How well do you know his wife? What do you think her reaction would be. I like to think if my dh cheated if be dignified, but really who knows until they are in that situation?

She may follow the route of blaming her husband and let you off as she thinks you are meaningless and if it wasn't you it would be someone else.

On the other hand she may go for vengeance, details of your sex life laid out for the world to see and comment on.

I have to admit that the thought of what you have done without protection revolts me, when you know he is going back to his marital bed. In a way the two of you are abusing her, she never asked to share bodily fluids with you.

Why do you think you don't deserve a relationship of your own? Why are you happy with leftovers?

Pasithea · 15/04/2014 23:40

No one can end this for you or make it better. Only you can do that but no one can make you.

You need to either give him up, talk to him then make a decision or just enjoy it for what it is and go on.

You are the only one to decide which it is.

badbaldingballerina123 · 15/04/2014 23:45

Op would he still be willing to see you if you got a official boyfriend ?

NotHisMistress · 15/04/2014 23:47

You are fucking one of OUR husbands potentially....The father of OUR dc
and it is therefore YOUR problem and HIS not hers. she isn't married. if YOUR husbands are unfaithful, she doesn't have to take responsibility for that, it is YOUR husbands' lack of commitment to YOU that is the problem.

slithytove · 15/04/2014 23:57

You are pissed off because your 'boyfriend' went home to his wife after sleeping with you? What did you want, a handhold and lots of assurances that he should have stayed with you?

This thread has really upset me. I have never been cheated on, but am the child of a dad who cheated. It destroyed my family.

You want this man to leave his family. Which means you either want him to leave his kids, or to have shared custody. Meaning their family life is shattered. Meaning their idea of parents is shattered. Probably memories are shattered too. They will live with a possibly distraught mother, an absent father. They will hate you.

I spoke to my dads ow. I was six. It fucked me up for a very long time. She cried and told me how much she loved my dad. She ignored the fact that I loved him too. She felt she deserved him more I guess.

Do you deserve this man more than his children do?

I don't care if you think I'm harsh. You can't imagine feeling less awful? Well if you ever have kids and watch their world being ripped apart, I think that's probably worse.

Imagine the utter betrayal of his family finding out their dad has built a whole new life?! They are kids. Depending on their age, they won't blame him. They will just be devastated and confused.

Those kids have no say. Chances are his wife has no say. Yet you went into this eyes open, knowing he had a family, and at no point did you stop yourself. I highly doubt you were deeply in love before finding all this out. So in my eyes, you deserve all you get. Any sensible woman would know that with an affair, comes pain. Any kind woman would not want to be part of causing that.

Have you thought about the future? Being a step mum to kids who may make your life very difficult. Paying out csa for a very very very long time, possibly affecting any family you might one day have?

Of course, this all might be too late. If his wife finds out, their family may already be irrevocably destroyed. But I guess that's what you want.

ElseaStars · 16/04/2014 00:01

slithytove I know exactly where you're coming from my dad was the same - but his wife was pure evil (and they are no longer together). She didn't think about me and my mum, she wanted my dad and played the victim.

MilksteakCharlie · 16/04/2014 00:04

Hi Op,

Can't really say anything that hasn't been said before, but you really should be careful what you wish for.

You're pushing for this man to leave his family to be with you? Are you prepared to be step mum to his children, have them stay with you on weekends (at the very least), pay maintenance for them and have to deal with helping raise them to adulthood?

They won't all just go away if he leaves. They'll always be his children and his poor wife will always be the mother of his children and you, in their eyes, will always be the bitch who stole him away.

Also, why would you want him? He cheats, lies and breaks promises to people who are most important to him.

Not to mention the unprotected sex that he's having with you, his wife and god knows who else.

If I were in your shoes, I'd leave now and count myself lucky. He's a twat and you can do better.

NurseyWursey · 16/04/2014 00:05

nothis

The OP isn't innocent in this, she knows he has a family. She is also hurting them. Not as much as he, but still.

badbaldingballerina123 · 16/04/2014 00:07

Mistress , she does have to take responsibility for shoving her face into someone else's family. It's not the way that you can inflict harm , and possible physical disease on someone , and say well , I'm not married to you so I owe you fuck all.

I don't owe my neighbours fuck all , nor that parent at school , nor my colleagues. I'm not married to them but I still owe them some accountability should I harm them. The fact that someone else is harming them also doesn't make me any less accountable. It's a pretty disgusting attitude to take.

CaptainAmericaMmmYesPlease · 16/04/2014 00:09

But OP doesn't care about mm's kids. All she cares about is winning her prize. At any point she could have chosen to go no further with this affair. Now she's so far in she's asked him to leave his wife and family. And she's feeling bad because they had sex then he went back to the woman he married and his children.

ElseaStars · 16/04/2014 00:13

To be fair - he wasn't thinking about his wife or kids every time he jumped into bed with the OP. It does work both ways. Only I don't think he will end it because he is perfectly happy dipping his wick where ever he pleases.

slithytove · 16/04/2014 00:15

Yeah and imagine the response the bloke would get if he came on here looking for sympathy because his mistress didn't give him what he wanted.

ElseaStars · 16/04/2014 00:19

Sad its a horrible situation for everyone

slithytove · 16/04/2014 00:20

I have more sympathy for the wife and kids. Not the cheater and cheatee.

BitchPeas · 16/04/2014 00:20

Do you not want to say the children's ages because they are very small babies/toddlers and you do not want to get judged any more than you have?

I work in a very male dominated environment, I hear men talk about their bit on the side, like you. It's not complimentary.

He's pushing the boundaries as he has no respect for you. You are for filth, his wife is a naice girl to have a family with.

You are better than that.

He is a pig.

lottieandmia · 16/04/2014 00:25

Heartshaped- I would not say this is your fault. This man is the one who has made a commitment and not you. It is HIS fault.

But I have to say that I have never understood why anyone would get involved with a married man. If I know someone's married they were always out of bounds to me, and I was repelled by any advances they made.

The situation here will end in sadness and heartbreak for everyone concerned.

Why don't you find someone single? Then you will be able to have a proper relationship. Married men don't leave their wives because they've got someone at home to cook, wash and look after them and another woman to get a bit of extra excitement from. Most men don't want to be put in the position of losing their money when they have to pay out in child maintenance and whatever else and not to be able to see their children when they want.

This man is having his cake and eating it. You will never be able to have a proper relationship and if he did leave his wife his children will see you as the bad guy. This is going nowhere so leave, seriously.