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Everything has changed because DP's exW is seriously ill. I'm absolutely stuck.

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PonytailStyle · 01/03/2014 17:48

DP and I met 3 years ago. Both our previous relationships broke down the year before that. It was a rebound thing for both of us in many ways but we did genuinely fall in love. We had 2 lovely years together during which time he was very clear that he was not going to tell his exW about me because he didn't want to hurt her or their adult children. His decision to leave - nobody else involved but he felt incredibly guilty and said that he wanted her to meet someone else before he introduced anyone to them. I accepted this and it suited me at the time as I didn't want that level of involvement. He and his ex remain on extremely good terms and he loves her as a friend. His family mean the world to him.

DP and I parted a year ago but remained in touch. We dated other people but since Xmas we have been considering getting back together. We never stopped loving each other. We both said that this time round his family must know because we are now considering a future together. He actually raised this before I did. I was adamant that I must not be a secret. He said he couldn't lie to his family any more. We were absolutely on the same page about that part. He has said all along that he would only ever introduce a partner to his family if he intended the relationship to be permanent.

We were discussing how to do this and all the other practicalities of being together properly when his exW was unexpectedly diagnosed with cancer. Their children are devastated. Everyone is devastated. Hopefully, she will make a full recovery but that could be many months away. Now is not the time to introduce me to his family. But realistically I'm not sure if I can last indefinitely in this sidelined position. I'm not sure our relationship will last under that sort of pressure. DP has promised to help his ex in any way he can and I admire him for doing that. I know that he wouldn't think twice about mopping up sick or comforting her if she's upset because he's that sort of person. If she asked him to stay over to help her he would. That's one of the reasons I love him. He's a good man.

I've told him that I'm finding it hard and he's trying to reassure me. I feel such a bitch because I'm hardly battling for my life like she is.

I don't want to leave him. I love him and I want to be there for him. He is very frightened for his ex and also his children and trying to put on a brave face for them, rallying everyone round and trying to make sure his ex always has company etc. He only has me to open up to because everyone else is floundering whereas I'm removed from the situation. It's not a burden because I love him but it is very stressful.

I definitely don't want to meet his family right now. It would be too much for everyone involved, including me. His children would see me as a stranger intruding into their lives at a very difficult time. His ex might feel she couldn't ask him for help when she needed it, to say nothing of all the other possible dynamics as she considers her own mortality. She doesn't want to hear that her ex is planning a happy new life with someone when she doesn't even know if she'll be alive this time next year. I don't want to add to anyone's sadness.

I feel so selfish to even think that I've got a problem when she is battling cancer. And I'll feel even worse if I walk away now. I can't walk away. I told him today that he could end it before it goes any further if he felt it was the right thing to do. I think he could do that just on the basis of letting me go to be happy with someone else. He is that selfless. But I don't want anyone else.

We are being very very honest with each other and talking loads. We go to bed wrapped round each other every night but every morning I wake up full of doubts and sadness. I don't know what to do for the best.

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Fatphase · 01/03/2014 18:40

Have you posted in the past about this? Maybe back last year?

There was a thread very very similair where the ex wife said she had cancer but there were some doubts about this because of the ex husbands ongoing "friendship" with her.

Tbh - this sounds so so similar and I have to say I agree with the other posters on here. This has absolutely nothing to do with her cancer. That is a yet another reason to not have to go public about you. Sorry.

scottishmummy · 01/03/2014 18:42

I'm afraid he's been unfair to you.this is his prevarication.nowt to do with ex
You need to direct your ire to a man who won't publicly acknowledge you
Not his ill ex-wife. Thus man is stringing you Along a bit

PonytailStyle · 01/03/2014 18:43

I don't think he's still with the ex.
I do think he feels guilty.
I don't think he wants her back.
I do think he sees me as a serious partner.
But he isn't putting me before her, is he?

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whattodoforthebest2 · 01/03/2014 18:44

This is going to sound harsh, OP, but if he's really not that into you, the only way to find out is to cool it completely, let him go and do what he wants to do and see if he comes back begging for forgiveness.

You can't make him want you if its his ex he wants.

EirikurNoromaour · 01/03/2014 18:45

How weird! What happens when his kids ask how long you have been together and he admits it was 3 years! If I were in their position I'd be furious at that to be honest.
He's being very, very strange. Nobody has a relationship for three years without telling their ex wife and children, when there is this level of contact between them going on.

scottishmummy · 01/03/2014 18:45

Look,you're disproportionately blaming ex. He's stringing you along
He won't acknowledge you as his partner of two yr.that speaks volumes
Leave the ex out of it,it distracts you from what a liar he is

Lizzabadger · 01/03/2014 18:45

Don't waste you time on him. He's not that into you.

PonytailStyle · 01/03/2014 18:45

No. I haven't posted about this before. The diagnosis is very recent and we've only been back together for a couple of months. This is the first time we have discussed me meeting his family. And it was he who raised the subject not me.

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sarine1 · 01/03/2014 18:46

You obviously really want this relationship to work - but if you read back what you have written, can you hear all HIS excuses and reasons for not committing in your words? He hasn't truly committed to you and I know how painful that can be and how easy it is to excuse his behaviour as you desperately try to rationalise things. I fear you need to stand back and give this situation a good look from the outside - very painful I know.

BillyBanter · 01/03/2014 18:46

If they have divorced and get on well, are friends and supportive of each other then there was no reason not to tell people that you were together at some point in those 3 years.

Fair enough not to meet just now. She has a lot to endure over the next few months and making friends with her ex's partner isn't going to be high on her list.

But the cancer is not a reason not to tell her.

The best case scenario is that he's not giving his family or his ex much credit for being able to move on, be happy for him, cope generally with the fact he's free to be with someone other than her.

Floggingmolly · 01/03/2014 18:47

He was very clear he was not going to tell his ex wife about me because he didn't want to hurt her or his adult children
Why would they have been hurt? ConfusedWhy did you settle for this "very clear" declaration that you would always be his grubby little secret?
There's nothing ex about that relationship, sorry.

scottishmummy · 01/03/2014 18:47

You're not significant enough to him.hes not introduced you as significant partner

skrumle · 01/03/2014 18:48

i don't think you need to be "in their lives", but i think for them to not know of your existence is unacceptable. and a bit odd that it happened that way the last time - for a few months, but two years??

SauceForTheGander · 01/03/2014 18:49

The thing is OP when it's mutual love and a relationship worth fighting for - you actually don't have to fight for it. It's really easy, straight forward and no dramas. That's when you know it's right, because there aren't any weird situations like this.

Papaluigi · 01/03/2014 18:49

He sounds like a reasonable bloke, but to be fair he does need to face up to his responsibilities to you as well as the family. As for the 'children'...well, they re adults now right?. Horrible circs for her, and the kids, but as others have suggested, perhaps bourne from all this guilt, he needs to be open with the family. You deserve that.

PonytailStyle · 01/03/2014 18:49

Sorry if my posts sound abrupt. I'm just trying to assimilate all this. I'm not defending him or blaming her. I just hadn't considered this angle. Now I feel silly.

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Fairylea · 01/03/2014 18:49

I agree with the others I'm afraid, sorry.

I'm even wondering if he has another girlfriend on the go that maybe his family found out about somehow and he can't choose between you and this other "other" woman so wants to have his cake and eat it and not appear the bad guy to his family until he's made a decision.

If he was genuine I'm sure his adult children would be happy to know he was happy. It's been 4 years (if I've read that correctly). Most divorced adults would certainly be at least dating by now.

whattodoforthebest2 · 01/03/2014 18:50

What sauce said.

scottishmummy · 01/03/2014 18:52

Ultimatium,he tells family you're partners.if be won't there your answer
You deserve more than being the unnamed,unacknowledged partner
Maybe cut your losses move on,meet a man who'll publicly cherish you

BalloonSlayer · 01/03/2014 18:52

What strikes me as odd is the contradictions in your descriptions of his relationship with her:

"It was a rebound thing for both of us" this implies he had had his heart broken.

"His decision to leave - nobody else involved" so why the was he on the rebound if it was him who wanted out ?

"he was not going to tell his exW about me because he didn't want to hurt her" But he'd left her! He had already hurt her.

"He and his ex remain on extremely good terms and he loves her as a friend. His family mean the world to him. " So why aren't they still married then? The only explanation that makes sense with that scenario is that he left because she didn't want sex ever again - but then she would surely EXPECT him to have a girlfriend, as finding someone to have sex with would have been the sole reason for him leaving.

My take on this is either:

he didn't leave her, she chucked him out, and he has been hanging about hoping to come back, had given up and decided to make a go of it with you, and now she's ill and he has seen his chance to get back in her good books by looking after her.

Or that he has just got cold feet and is using her illness as an excuse.

I don't think the illness is likely to be made up, although it could be exaggerated.

By the way, I think you sound really lovely and I hope it works out well for you. Flowers

tribpot · 01/03/2014 18:53

I think he's boxed himself into a corner.

Not telling anyone about you the first time around was just plain weird, and something's not right about that. To suddenly announce your existence now is likely to be met with either "whatever, I'm a bit busy having cancer to worry about it" or "why the fuck are you bothering me with this news whilst I have cancer to deal with?". Neither is really fair to the ex-wife.

I wouldn't be too believing of this vision you have of him of selflessly letting you go to be happy with someone else - the guy has denied your existence for three bloody years. Of course he could let you go - he's done it once and is essentially doing it repeatedly.

I think he should tell his children - in a casual, non-dramatic way. Just: I'm seeing someone and it'd be great if you met her some time. Cancer treatment goes on a for a long time, and generally establishes a pattern, where once a fortnight (or whatever appropriate interval) the patient receives more treatment, then has a recovery period. They simply won't be able to focus on nothing but cancer for the duration, there will have to be time for other stuff too.

juneau · 01/03/2014 18:53

I think I'd lay it on the line, if it was me. I'd say to him that you won't intrude with regard to his ex's cancer battle and his DC perhaps needing him to be around, but that if the two of you are going to be together as a couple then he needs to come clean about that to his family right now. Either that, or you'll walk away.

He sounds very considerate of his ex and her feelings, which is very nice of him, but he's doing it your expense and after four years he should have moved on sufficiently to be able to manage a new relationship and still be friendly with his ex, if that's what they both want.

justiceofthePeas · 01/03/2014 18:53

What was the reason that you broke up before?

SauceForTheGander · 01/03/2014 18:53

Ok - let's imagine he's telling the truth - why be with someone who places such little value on you and four years of your life. You're in no man's land because he's too much of a nice guy. Hmm