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The Dating game - welcome all daters to the DATING THREAD 70!!!

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girliefriend · 20/02/2014 08:56

Thought it was my turn to start the thread!! Grin

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Blossomflowers · 04/03/2014 20:30

jarlin ah not that bothered was a bit more upset to see mrscotaccent on line, he swears that he was not. He totally entitled but just wish I knew his excuses were genuine not to meet up are genuine. shit day total actually.

Jarlin · 04/03/2014 20:34

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FolkGirl · 04/03/2014 20:35

I think I've decided that I need a bit of head space before we see each other again so that I can go into our chat with a clear head without my judgement being clouded with emotions.

But I don't want to demean myself by sending lots of little "don't forget about me" texts.

I'm also a little bit scared that when we have our talk and he tells me stuff about himself, that it's going to be revelations that I don't want to hear. But I don't know whether that's a valid concern or because of my "I'm not good enough" stuff.

I don't know.

I said I wasn't going to fall for him and I haven't... but I do really like him. I'm just very confused and probably a little vulnerable at the moment so I just don't want to make the wrong decisions.

FolkGirl · 04/03/2014 20:37

Jarlin Yes and he's saying it's all fine, but I don't know how much 'effort' to expect from him. He's not a big texter or emailer so I don't want to send loads and look like I'm doing all the running when there's a conversation to be had.

And I think I'm getting things all wrong. Sad

SoftKittyWarmKitty · 04/03/2014 20:39

Blossom Can people really show online when they're not? I'm pretty sure I don't, because when I'm online I usually get a rush of people favouriting me, plus the odd message, and when I'm not online I hardly get anything so I'm clearly not showing up when offline.

Do you think your response to MrHot was maybe a bit hasty? What if he really was at work late? I'd have been tempted to give him a second chance - but only one second chance. Mind you, if you don't think he's for you anyway, there's not much point. On to the next one!

Flora It's a shame about the guy at work, but I think you made the right decision. Last thing you want is to fall out with a colleague. If one of you were to leave, however... Wink

Santa Glad Bricky text you. Have faith!

FolkGirl · 04/03/2014 20:47

So in counselling today...

On the upside, I think I've started to get my head around the idea that it's not me that is unloveable, but that my parents didn't love me and were incapable of doing so because they had their own issues.

But I've literally started to see that this week and I've believed I was unloveable for nearly 40 years, so I don't know how long it's going to take for the impact to be emotional and not just intellectual.

On the downside, last week I realised that it must be that I'm not capable of recognising love or receiving love because I've never had and it don't know what it looks like. Sadly, I also realised I'm no good at being liked either. I actively avoid people who I now realise are being 'nice' to me because I find their behaviour (saying nice things) a bit overwhelming and threatening.

I've started to get my head around some of the obvious red flags, but there are other things I'm less certain about.

As I said on another thread, my first abusive relationship was with my parents and started very early on. Since then I've only ever been in abusive relationships because I've interpretted a lack of violence, shouting, threatening, control as a lack of interest on their behalf and ended it!

Which is where I'm really struggling with the man I'm seeing. From what I can see his feelings haven't changed but I think part of the doubt I've been having all along is also to do with the fact that he's not jealous or possesive and hasn't said anything controlling and I can't actually tell whether that's because he's a nice, non abusive man, or because he doesn't give a shit.

And because I don't know that, when I think of all the lovely things he says and does, I can't tell whether that's genuine feeling and affection or whether it's part of a game he has no emotional investment in, for his own amusement.

What a fuck up I am!

FolkGirl · 04/03/2014 20:52

When he says and does lovely things, it certainly feels/seems/sounds genuine at the time, but no one realised that someone is being a bastard to them at the time, do they?

FolkGirl · 04/03/2014 20:52

realises

Blossomflowers · 04/03/2014 20:55

not a fuck up folk counselling can be empowering stick with it. Due to start some myself soon. In one way the OLD lark is proving to be helpful to me. I have felt so unloved for many years and beginning to realise it was my fuckwit x who has robbed me of my self respect.
Maybe harsh to mrhot but not going to take shit.

FolkGirl · 04/03/2014 21:15

Thanks Blossom. Good luck with your counselling.

I found the OD really good for it too. I was completely honest about myself on my profile. It's one of the things the man I'm seeing said he liked. He said my profile matched my photo and he loved what I said about myself; the things I do, what I do for a living. He said it all made me sound like a really lovely person. After we met, he emailed me to tell me that it had been really nice to not be disappointed! He said he'd had high expectations of me/what I was going to be like based on my profile and I'd lived up to them.

It as really important to me that I represented myself honestly because I needed to know if I could be liked. It helped me to see what was important to me and was really useful.

Blossomflowers · 04/03/2014 21:22

The same folk I am honest and my photo's recent. I would be appalled if someone ws totally dissapointed me. I know we moan about men but think woman lie also.

HanselandGretel · 04/03/2014 22:11

Still texting with yesterdays date, I'll call him Mr Lunch, no one else on the horizon at all though I did get asked out by a guy I saw a few times last year, he works in a shop near me so I do occasionally bump into him...I just didn't feel a spark but he's good company. Just not sure that's enough but he's really local, grown kids and would be around a lot...why don't I snap him up then??..arrrgh, I'm beginning to think I'll never feel anything for anyone again, it's been so long. I can't imagine living with anyone, can't imagine a life with someone, really feel out of touch with 'normal' family life or just life as part of a couple as I've been on my own now for a number of years.
I'd like that to change but it feels like climbing a treacle mountain.

Blossom your gut was probably right and sounds like Mr Hot was stalling, next!

Blossomflowers · 04/03/2014 22:22

Hansel Yea think my gut was right just need to listen to it. Am still keeping options open, will keep mr Scot accent for Friday night of pleasure and keep looking for partner material.

sponge31 · 04/03/2014 22:23

Hi all
Been lurking since NY and with much interest to your antics, signed up to OLD in Jan, I've got my first date lined up for friday. Really ridiculously excited about it. I've been single for four years and I'm bricking it. Any advice from you veterans????

HanselandGretel · 04/03/2014 22:30

Hi sponge, if you're excited that's a good sign as it must mean you think there's potential? Is it an evening date or a quick coffee?
Don't read too much into it until you actually meet though, just set out to view it as an introduction, hope it goes well Smile

sponge31 · 04/03/2014 22:45

Thanks Hansel, it's a daytime walk on the beach and then food. Got to get back for the kids. He seems genuine but I don't think I have a twat radar yet so I don't know if I'm getting carried away with it all.
Trouble is a previous bf was using OLD whilst we we're together so I'm uber paranoid about it, but I don't want past experience to ruin future experience. I'm a leap before I look kinda gal.
I am trying to keep it in perspective, we have chatted, texts, spoken on the phone, he seems to be just what I'm after Confused!!!!

HanselandGretel · 04/03/2014 22:48

If he seems it then maybe he is! You got to keep optimistic, or else OD can become a draining and soulless experience...and on that bright note Grin

sponge31 · 04/03/2014 22:52

Well said, after all I joined OLD purely to have some fun. I shall try my darnest not to get carried away and enjoy a day out and free lunch Grin
Thanks

TheCrow · 05/03/2014 13:27

I'm meeting someone tonight that I started messaging last night, he seems very keen. After what happened with Mr Banana I'm not even excited, no way I'm getting my hopes up this time :(

Santaclaws · 05/03/2014 13:29

Hope tonight goes well crow loo update please :)

SoftKittyWarmKitty · 05/03/2014 13:41

Sponge Enjoy the beach/food date - sounds perfect!

Crow That's great, hope it turns out to be much better night than you think.

I've been messaging someone on POF but I keep comparing him (unfavourably) to MCS. It's stupid because I only dated him for 6 weeks but I feel really hurt to think that it's over Sad. God, I feel pathetic.

Blossomflowers · 05/03/2014 13:51

Go you crow will expect a full report in the morning.

After all nonsense with Mr Hotguy and elusive MrScotAcc, I am now messaging a quite a few, seems to be a nice guy not to far away whose life is not totally taken up with work and kids as they are much older. Think I will chat on the phone tonight if he is free supposed to be seeing mrScoAcc on Friday night but have resisted texting him today as want him to make more effort. Is that fair?

dippinmytoe · 05/03/2014 14:00

blossom I too would resist texting mrsa.. if he doesn't contact forget about him.

Good luck tonight crow

I've been chatting to a guy since sat night , pretty much non stop communication since sat. We are meeting friday night. He is very different for me, but is so easy to talk to. He seems to have no baggage.. no kids etc .. about 3 yrs younger than me. So fingers crossed

FolkGirl · 05/03/2014 14:03

SoftKitty I don't think it matters how long it is really. It's all well having the 'don't get emotionally attached' rule, but it's actually very diffcult to do in reality. And without some emotional attachment, it can't really progress and then it is going to hurt if it doesn't work out because there's always that element of hope.

Crow I hope tonight goes well.

Blossom I think it's fair. It's the reason really that I deleted the number of the man I'm seeing. I find it so hard to not text just as a way I'm letting him know I'm thinking of him, or have remembered him... but I need to give him chance to make the effort so that I can see it. I think it's a wise move.

I'm glad I deleted his number. I've wanted to text him a couple of times today but haven't been able to. I want to get a feel for how keen he really is. I've also done it so that I can start detaching a little so that when we speak I'm in a better position to make a sensible decision.

Besides I've got loads done today without any phone checking distractions Blush

I've been thinking today that what I want is to be loved and cherished. It seems impossibly unattainable, and maybe it is, but I've spent years feeling crappy and I'm older and wiser now. If when we talk he can't offer me what I need I'm going to walk away, however much I like him. And I do like him.

FolkGirl · 05/03/2014 14:04

dippin sounds good... fingers crossed!