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The Dating game - welcome all daters to the DATING THREAD 70!!!

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girliefriend · 20/02/2014 08:56

Thought it was my turn to start the thread!! Grin

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Blossomflowers · 25/02/2014 23:09

Just got of the phone to hot bloke, sounds really nice and wants to come t0 meet me on thursday, in mid call, yes MrSA texts me, saying he is sorry for not being in touch really busy.

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FolkGirl · 26/02/2014 07:03

Well I had an interesting evening last night. Once again it's a long one and just musings rather than anything.

I went out to dinner with a friend of mine and it seems that my dating is disapproved of by some of my friends.

I did OD for 6 months. During that time, I had the occasional midweek evening date - but preferred not to do this because I have the children with me during the week. I saw one man for a few weeks and did see him occasionally midweek but generally I arranged dates for the alternate weekends the children are at their dads or lunch time dates on my days off and the children were at school. I did it, not because I wanted to meet 'The One', but just for some companionship and a bit of fun and to meet new people...

It was pointed out to me that even though I think I protected the children from the effects of the breakdown, there will have been times when I was feeling sad or under stress and I snapped at them when they didn't really understand why because they didn't understand how I was feeling.

I met up with 10 men altogether. Most of them were first dates, I went on a couple of 2nd dates but no further, I saw 2 men for about 5/6 weeks and then there is the man I'm seeing now.

The children haven't met any of them. And I have no intention of introducing them to the man I'm seeing now.

My exH had an affair, he's introduced the children to his gf/ow, they've been to her flat and my exh's life is moving along just nicely. I don't begrudge him that, life is short and if he's happy, then good for him. But it would appear that a couple of my friends have chatted and the general feeling is that everyone feels really sorry for me for what happened and the fact I have no family, but I should be the one to be steady and constant and reliable and if my ex wasn't willing to prioritise his family over his wants/needs, I have an even greater responsibility to do so. I should see them as my support network and not feel that I need to have a man.

I said that I only saw him once a fortnight and that if I didn't even have him, I'd be on my own all the time. I literally have no one. I'd spend most weekends on my own otherwise. I can't be just completely on my own. I know that in reality I am, but I need it sometimes to feel like I'm not. Or that I don't have to rely on the pity of my friends. Apparently, if I'm feeling sad or lonely I can just phone them up and they'll be there for me, which is a lovely sentiment, but they are all families and that can't be how it is forever. I'm not in a position emotionally to return the favour/support and now I just don't even know whether any of the friendships are real now or just because people feel sorry for me and are worried about the effect it's having on the children.

The person my friend last night was talking to was a friend we're supposed to be going away for a few days with. I don't even want to do that anymore.

Perhaps they're right and I'm just being selfish. I don't know. All I do know is that I've had a pretty tough time emotionally over the past few weeks, when I'm with the man I'm seeing I can forget about all the less good stuff in my life, I don't know I just feel even worse now. Perhaps they're right and I should just lay off any idea of dating and be on my own. There are certainly plenty of threads on here from LPs who don't go anywhere or see anyone - a lot are frustrated and sad but some seem quite content to prioritise being a parent. Perhaps that is the way to go.

I've already accepted that this isn't love. Perhaps I just need to take some time away from everything.

SoftKittyWarmKitty · 26/02/2014 08:00

Jarlin I feel exactly the same about Mr Coffee Shop. Like Slow Burner, he has a lot of pressures and things going on in his life and I feel like I'm slotted in now and again when he's got nothing better planned. I'm not sure I'll ever become a priority to him. Like you, I'm not prepared to be on the periphery of his life indefinitely. Things will need to change in the next month or so.

Did you reply to his text about 'us'?

Blossom Oooh, god luck for your date tomorrow!

Lizzie Just googled that book and it looks fab! A lot of his advice is similar to what my male friend advised me. Matt Hussey has a video available of one of his shows, I'm so tempted to buy it!

SoftKittyWarmKitty · 26/02/2014 08:10

Lizzie Just found that book on Amazon Kindle for £2.48 so I've downloaded it to my iPad. I've got high hopes for it!

TheCrow · 26/02/2014 08:22

Folk Sorry, but what a load of bollocks your friends are talking. They're all happily coupled up right? So definitely easy for them to talk about being alone 'for the sake of the 'sake of the kids' Angry How dare they dictate how you live your life and decide what's best for your children like that? You don't need to feel shame for wanting to meet someone, whether it's for a cup of coffee or a full blown relationship. You don't have to justify your life to these people, nothing in your description of your dates sounds worrying or unhealthy to me!

I got single-mother-shamed by Mr Guitarist last night too! He messaged me again asking if he could come over, I said no because DD was in bed, to which he replied with this long message about how can I ever expect to meet anyone if I won't let them come round while she's here!! I replied with a rant about how he's not my boyfriend, he'd only be coming round for fun and it was a totally different situation, if I met someone I'm sure I'd meet them outside the house first and then think about the possibility of bringing them here while DD was asleep. I was tempted to add about Mr Banana not having a problem with kids and me managing to find time to see Mr Builder (I'll call him Mr Tattoo from now on, realised we already have a Mr Builder) but wisely decided against it. He didn't reply Grin

EverythingHappens4aReason · 26/02/2014 08:37

folk that's the worst advice I've ever heard! And received :( sometimes I think my friends like me sitting here on my own so when they're looking for a bolt hole they can use me as an excuse to their DHs. I have to go round/go out with her....she's on her own you know :-(

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FolkGirl · 26/02/2014 09:12

The thing is, I don't even call on them.

I'm just very confused (and very down!) at the moment. I don't feel like I can trust how I feel, or my judgement, about anything. Maybe they can see something I can't. They are actually very nice people.

The one I saw last night is quite a bit younger than me. She's very close with my children. I really don't think anything 'bad' was meant by it. She really isn't like that.

She has sent me a lovely text this morning. Maybe they are just genuinely concerned. I mean, it's not an ideal situation, it's not one any of us would want for our children. But I didn't cause it. I didn't have the affair.

Some of my friends know the 'details' of my OD experiences but I haven't shared them with the children! And yes, they haven't sounded like nice, stable relationships, because they weren't, they were amusing anecdotes about first dates that didn't progress any further. That sort of thing.

Perhaps I should just focus on being me and the children. But then I only see this man once a fortnight and we don't spend hours talking/emailing/texting, so it's not like I invest a lot of time in him.

I just like the company and the escapism and putting all the shit I feel about myself to one side when I'm with him.

Sorry for not responding to others and then posting about me, me, me. But I just don't feel like I've got much to give at the moment.

QueenandKingMum · 26/02/2014 09:48

Folk you deserve to be happy,hang in there

QueenandKingMum · 26/02/2014 09:50

Jarlin, good luck with the text!

I'm finding today hard as it's been two weeks since the shit hit the fan. He's works two weeks away and two weeks home so he's off again. Feel hurt, I need to let him go but the hurt is still there. Part of me wants to jump back into OD and part of me doesn't. I think the loneliness is the worst part..

scornedwoman67 · 26/02/2014 09:51

folk no no no!! Do not listen to them. It is easy to sit in judgement when you live in smug coupledom. The fact is that they have no idea what it's like until it happens to them. I know!!! You are doing everything right, your children are safe and happy and it is your life. You have said you don't want to be on your own forever & I think most of us probably feel that way. All you are doing is exploring your options without harming anyone. Please stay with us x

HelloBoys · 26/02/2014 09:52

Jarlin - your gut instinct and also how you feel re slowburner fitting you in says a lot.

I am definitely going on my gut feelings more now (after disastrous end recently), no more 2nd chances and dating someone I don't fancy much and then be lured into a false sense of security (me!).

Folk - how CAN your friends be critical of you? You're doing OD and you're certainly not seeing millions of people (none of your friends business) or introducing the kids to your partners etc. I'd ignore these friends. and as Queen says you do deserve to be happy so hang in there too.

girliefriend · 26/02/2014 10:03

jarlin Angry how flipping dare they?

Seriously smile and nod and ignore ignore ignore!! They have no right to dictate anything to you, you have and are doing nothing wrong and they are not being good friends if they are supporting you in that.

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girliefriend · 26/02/2014 10:03

sorry not jarlin that post is for folk sorry!!

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Santaclaws · 26/02/2014 10:09

Hi All
Had a nice evening with Bricky again just snuggling up watching films. I think it's the 8th time we've seen eachother now. He's very easy to be with, so far anyway and he's so much bigger than me I get lost in the cuddles. I think I'm starting to really like him, but I'm not sure. It's definatly not a love at first sight thing but he's growing on me

I'm a bit scared it will all go wrong and he will become distant like the others I've known, although he is consistent so far. His apparant attachment to his parents concerns me a bit though. As I said previously he went back there to live with them when his relationship broke up but admits he used to go round every Sunday for lunch even when living with GF. His mum does everything for him, I still like him though

FolkGirl · 26/02/2014 10:20

Thanks.

I don't want to sound like I'm slagging them off, I'm really not. I know that they care about me and the children. But I think you're right, when you're sitting there with your spouse every night, it's easy to be full of advice for someone who's not.

They enjoy the nights they get on their own when their partner goes out and they get some time to themselves. I don't think they really get that it's not quite the same when that's your every night, indefinitely!

But it has made me wonder if perhaps the way I feel sometimes does encroach on the way I am at other times. I try to keep the way I feel about different things seperate, but who knows if I'm successful at that.

Hope everyone else has a good day.

FolkGirl · 26/02/2014 10:22

They have supported me too, they are supportive, I just didn't really realise they'd got some concerns too.

LoisPuddingLane · 26/02/2014 11:34

Folk, your friends sound a bunch of cows, if you'll excuse me saying so. You are in an unenviable situation (which many of us also have been in) and they would probably do exactly the same in your place. Just carry on - your instincts sound fine to me.

LoisPuddingLane · 26/02/2014 11:35

There is always the possibility too that they are a bit jealous of you dating. I know that sounds weird, but maybe they are bored rigid with their husbands.

HelloBoys · 26/02/2014 11:40

Folk - when I was single and 'shock horror' enjoying it I had tons of coupled up friends who was only happy when I was in a relationship and spent time setting me up with their single friends. when I didn't want to be set up!

A few couples actually get jealous of maybe your single friend but also as you're single that you may be fodder as temptation for their husbands, men coupled up friends etc. It didn't help that another single friend of ours had a 'one night stand' with one of my/their coupled mates boyfriends. Shock

as Bridge would say they're 'smug marrieds'.

DonkeysDontRideBicycles · 26/02/2014 11:43

I try not to be a 'smug married' and read this thread once in a blue moon and FolkGirl I have to say not for a moment would I think you have been jeopardising your DCs' happiness or risking your own well-being by dating. That is absolute rot. Your rl friends do you a disservice.

HelloBoys · 26/02/2014 11:50

Folk - I know this may be hard for you but I'd be tempted (maybe email?) to say how you feel, how you shouldn't need to justify yourself etc and how you feel awkward going away now with some of the friends.

Often people glibly say stuff and are tactless or don't realise and this way (or speaking to them) clears the air, gets your points across and then they know how you feel about it.

It would have to be brave but you could do it in a non-confrontational way. Then at least they know your side of the story. waits for someone else to shoot down my advice as not a good idea Smile