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289 replies

Loveyouthree · 10/02/2014 07:03

I'm no saint, but I've put up with a lot from DP the past 4 years. In fact I'm now having counselling - not because of things he's done; I had issues before that - but all I talk about is him, and how I need to sort myself out for him.

I have hideously low self esteem and acute anxiety, I'm a shadow of my teenage self (not that long ago!). He was seriously immature when we met, but I made excuses for him over and over. He has changed loads now - the things he used to do are in the past. They still affect me deeply though, and he knows this, hence the counselling. Then this weekend we fell out, I went out in the car for an hour to get some space, and when I got back he went out. And didn't come home until the next day. With no contact.

I just can't forgive this, he did it purely to hurt me. The other times he's done shit like that he was stupid and thoughtless and got carried away with friends, but this time he clearly did it to punish me. I spent the night crying and self harming.

Oh and he's violent sometimes. That is my fault though, I can be very annoying and don't shut up and recently have started it first, i.e. I grabbed his back the other day. He has strangled me, thrown me across the room when heavily pregnant, slapped me in the face, grabbed my head and pushed me down, cut the bottom of my ear with my own earring by doing that, I think he punched me once but it was pitch black and he said it was a slap and his hand slipped. Fucking hurt though and I bled. Forced me into sex a lot but I think that's kind of ok because I never want it anymore iyswim?

He's lied and taken drugs behind my back a few items. Even when I was heavily pregnant. Drugs as in class a if anyone cares.

The crazy bit? I can live with the violence, I can cope with that. My own mother was a violent bitch so I've no hope really. It's rejection I can't take. So even though I need to leave him, I just don't know how I'll do it.

I mAnaged to leave my previous abusive boyfriend, but we lived in separate towns, had separate houses, didnt have children and I shamefully met someone else who distracted me from it all. Now I have none of those things on my side, we're all but married (wedding booked for this year!).

I'm meant to be ringing all the right people today eg womens aid, shelter. But, knowing me, it'll come to nothing. He'll come back from work on Friday night and I'll be too much of a wimp to do anything. And anyway I don't think womens aid will help because he's not actually abusive. He's not controlling or jealous in the slightest. He'd never put me down or try to stop me going somewhere (not that he has do, I rarely do!). But he doesn't fit in that category.

But I can't forgive him for the other night. Thanks for reading :(

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fusspot66 · 14/02/2014 11:12

BTW it is not about necks snapping that makes choking so dangerous. It is about pressure on the vagal nerve that stops the heart. A method known in martial arts and used by Commandos. Silent and deadly and surprisingly easy.

FanFuckingTastic · 14/02/2014 11:20

I'm not writing for sympathy, though I do appreciate people being kind. I am writing to share my experience with LoveYouThree, so that she can see that kids are actually not as unaware as she thinks, and that they can also be at risk.

My dad was a mild mannered man, who just became violent and abusive all of a sudden. You never knew when. More often when he had a drink, but even then it was like waiting on a knife edge for something to happen.

My awareness goes back as far as three or four years old. The impact it has had is immense. I have just left an abusive relationship. Over my life I have been in four. This time I fled in fear of my life. My mum has no idea how much I have been impacted by her staying with my dad. Sometimes I feel like I could hate her, certainly I hate him with all my heart.

My brother is an abuser. He has been in prison for pinning his girlfriend to the wall by her neck after breaking down the door to get in to her house. He was lucky to not be tried for attempted murder by the German police, instead got off with ABH in the army courts.

My sister is the least affected, because she was the youngest when we left. She cannot tolerate arguments or anger, but she is the only one of three siblings living an independent life and undamaged enough to do it without problems.

This is the legacy of living in a DV household.

Only1scoop · 14/02/2014 11:29

I know fan I know you aren't at all.

Just brings home to us all.... just how aware children are even in those really young and nurturing years.

I just hope Op prints off this thread and hides it for her future.

She has had some incredible advice on here.

FanFuckingTastic · 14/02/2014 11:39

And LoveYouThree, I understand where you are right now. I've been there myself. I don't want to make you feel guilty, I am just trying to show you that how you think is faulty. It's not something you are to blame for, given your life experience, but we are all so concerned about you and the children, we're trying to help.

I think you are brave to keep coming back and talking to us. Keep doing that. I want you to read the thread over and over again. Some parts of it might be painful to read, but consider how many times the same message is being repeated to you.

We don't hate you or want to ruin your life, we want you to be happy and safe. Keep questioning things and learning about abuse. x

DeriArms · 14/02/2014 11:41

Brilliant posts and advice from FanFuckingTastic.

captainmummy · 14/02/2014 13:41

FanfuckingTastic - what a horrendous childhood. Sad It boils my blood when posters say 'he's a great dad' or 'people will never believe me, he's so popular' (and 'good-looking, like that is a good character trait) and 'he's really a good guy'.

OP - he's due back today, yes? He's likely to be drinking or on drugs at some stage in the weekend, so you'd better be careful. Don't say or do anything which might set him off, otherwise it will be all your fault - 'look what you made me do!' Better be on tiptoes, on eggshells, but that's ok; the kids dont realise. Better be on best behaviour (ALL of you!) in case he gives you some 'attention'. Or worse, doesn't.

Personally, I'd really rather he screwed the entire town, took all the drugs he could afford (how does he afford them, BTW?) and had parties from now till april, than came near me or my dc. He is NOT WORTH IT.

captainmummy · 14/02/2014 13:43

OP - this tghread was started by someone who has got out of an abusive relationship. It's a heart-warming thread with a BIG message.

HERE

Have a read.

Loveyouthree · 14/02/2014 14:38

Fanfuckingtastic :( that is horrible. I hope you're ok.

DP will not be on drugs this weekend. He hasn't done that shit for a long time. I don't know if he'll be drinking, but probably not because he'll be back late tonight and is leaving early Monday so won't go out Sunday night. He's a happy/rubbish drunk and it doesn't make him aggressive. I'm not scared of that at all. Hes boring if anything.

He's the one on tiptoes, not me. He's shitting himself that I might still go through with the break up after all. I don't even feel bad for letting him think that. I'm not reassuring him.

Ironically now he has a good wage he doesn't do drugs, rarely goes out. He took drugs a handful of times if that, and we had barely any money to get by (I didn't know he'd spent it on that). Those were very dark times. I was pregnant and felt I had to stay.

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Logg1e · 14/02/2014 14:45

Have you had a look at the Freedom Programme yet?

Loveyouthree · 14/02/2014 14:47

I looked at the link but didnt have time to register. Half term now aahhhh!

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Logg1e · 14/02/2014 14:51

When do you intend to have registered by? Is before bedtime reasonable?

Loveyouthree · 14/02/2014 15:01

It should be x

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Logg1e · 14/02/2014 15:05

I'd love to hear more about it if you can find time. I'm sure it will be of interest to anyone lurking.

Loveyouthree · 14/02/2014 15:11

Yes, didn't think of it like that

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FanFuckingTastic · 14/02/2014 17:35

I'd like to hear your thoughts too. I'm not starting until May, so I'm interested in what you learn.

Why don't we start a rule of not excusing his behaviour? You must feel defensive about things, and want to explain it, but why don't we stop looking at his behaviour and why he does it in your opinion, and look at how you feel about his behaviour.

Loveyouthree · 14/02/2014 19:25

Ok, that sounds fair.

I will try to do that, Fan.

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captainmummy · 15/02/2014 13:22

Hw's it going OP? did you look at the freedom program?

FanFuckingTastic · 15/02/2014 14:44

If you have a link LoveYouThree, I'd love to read about it myself.

I hope you are looking forwards to your night out tonight. Be safe and have a great time.

Loveyouthree · 15/02/2014 20:34

Hey, not yet, this weekend is gorgeously full!

So far so good - and thanks for checking up on me. He's been all I could ask and more really. Oh and he's sleeping on the sofa.

I went out for tea and I've just got back, it was nice to get out and gossip.

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Loveyouthree · 15/02/2014 20:37

Fan - a pp put the link on earlier; that's the one I followed x

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FanFuckingTastic · 15/02/2014 20:45

How far into it are you? I'll catch you up and we can read it together.

Loveyouthree · 15/02/2014 21:02

I haven't started it yet. He's going back to London for work on Monday... Technically I could do it that evening. X

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Logg1e · 15/02/2014 21:08

How long is he away for? Is he drinking tonight? Guessing he won't drink tomorrow..?

Loveyouthree · 15/02/2014 21:13

Erm I think only a couple of days. Yeh he bought us some drinks, so we're just chilling at home having them. He won't go out tomorrow night as it's a school night ...

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FanFuckingTastic · 15/02/2014 21:14

Okay, it's a date. I'll be here on Monday too and we can read together. I'll be travelling to pick up the kids some of the day, but hopefully we can get a little time together.