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Worried that DP is stringing me along a bit Re. Marriage

159 replies

NurseScorned · 22/01/2014 15:45

I hate being all suspicious but I can't help it lately, I'm worried I'm being strung along by stuff that is really important to me.

When we first got together my partner said he definitely wanted to get married again, he likes the mr and mrs set up, he believed marriage was important although as he hadn't been divorced long (2 years) he would want to wait a while before taking the plunge - then when we moved in together all of a sudden he changed this to never wanting to get married, making out that I should have told him how important it was to me in the early days (I did!!) and that he "supposes" he "might" marry me at a much later date if we continue to "get on" and "work as a team". Now however it's constantly at the back of my mind that if I stay with him, I might have to resign myself to having never married despite it being so important to me. He never brings it up, never talks about it and makes me feel awkward if I bring it up. It's constantly on TV, marriage, weddings, romantic proposals, honeymoons - we're going to Thailand in August and our hotel has a special wedding/honeymoon page on the internet and he looked through the entire website and just missed that page out. When skipping through the hotel photos there was an air of awkward silence when the wedding pictures came up. I just sometimes feel that he's stringing me along. If he genuinely intended to marry at some point wouldn't that be a perfect conversation starter? If he doesn't want to get married, why can't he just tell me so I can make an informed decision about my future? It winds me up all the important dates throughout the year when friends/colleagues are expecting proposals - birthdays, valentines day, on holiday (can't get much more romantic /exotic than thailand!) yet I know deep down it will never happen for me, he'll never ask me no matter how perfect the setting. A woman at work today came in all excited, stuck her hand out and was wearing a beautiful engagement ring. Everyone was so excited for her and I started feeling quite emotional. My DP never buys me anything never mind a ring. I think one of his excuses before was the cost of a wedding - clearly bullshit when all I'd want is a quick service in the reg office, I'm not even after a posh dress - none of that matters to me and I just feel so rejected by him and just wish he'd be honest with me one way or another. I'm 33 and he's 42 - we're old enough to know what we want and time is moving on somewhat. We can't have kids so it's not about that (yet that's another thing I'm willing to sacrifice for him) but I won't compromise on marriage too. But how do I make him be honest? don't want to end the relationship if he genuinely intends to ask me soon - but don't want to be strung along either.

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NurseScorned · 22/01/2014 16:31

Saturn, I can guarantee he's not planning on surprising me in thailand. He never surprises me with anything. Never buys me anything. Makes me laugh he said he'd consider marriage when I'm qualified and working full time and we're in a better position with the mortgage etc - yet last night he's on about moving to a bigger house when our (or his, as it legally stands!) mortgage deal runs out. I thought to myself then, you have no intention of us marrying at all do you

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millymolls · 22/01/2014 16:33

Please don't give up your opportunity to have kids for this man. You may live to regret it

^^^ This.

Mabelandrose · 22/01/2014 16:33

He sounds awful op. You could do so much better

NettleTea · 22/01/2014 16:36

do you actually have kids, or they his kids that you refer to.
I dont think he will marry you, and especially not now that you have moved in, he has no incentive at all

Twinklestein · 22/01/2014 16:37

When you say our/his mortgage - are you contributing to it?

DontmindifIdo · 22/01/2014 16:37

The "work as a team" comment makes it sound like he's trying to make you "earn" marriage to him. Bollocks to that, what makes him seem so fabulous you have to work hard, rather than him working bloody hard to keep you? He seems to think he is the catch and you are 'lucky' to be with him.

No.

Do you have DC already from a previous relationship? If so, I'd be quicker about ending this relationship, it's unfair on your DCs to get to used to living with him before ending it if your relationship has no future.

If you do a big talk, he'll probably dangle a romantic proposal idea in front of you, even possibly tell you you've ruined some big plan (which he now won't do so you have "to be good" and "wait until he's ready to do the big proposal again") and then string you along feeling you can't mention it because if you do, he'll cancel the proposal idea again.

Just move out. You could always date him (but not live together) - tell him if there's no marriage in the future then you see no point in living together. Retake control of your relationship.

Although I'd suggest the best course of action would be to find a man who wants the same things from life as you.

CalamityKate · 22/01/2014 16:37

Why on earth are you even WITH this man, let alone wanting to marry him? He sounds horrible.

Twinklestein · 22/01/2014 16:38

The more you say OP, the worse he gets. Why are you with him?

DollyHouse · 22/01/2014 16:38

OP, you only get one life. Is this how you imagine the rest of your one shot at it?

Twinklestein · 22/01/2014 16:38

xpost CalamityKate

DontmindifIdo · 22/01/2014 16:40

oh and no, he's not intending to marry you, the "when you are qualified" is another "when you have earned it" statement. Fuck that, if he really wanted to be married to you, he'd propose and offer you either a cheap small wedding soon or a long engagement and the big wedding once you've saved for it. He's not doing either. He's not expecting to marry you once you've qualified, he'll find new reasons to not do it. Then another, then you'll be in your 40s and having spend a decade with him, not wanting to throw it all away just because you don't have a wedding ring...

GoshAnneGorilla · 22/01/2014 16:42

Nurse - you need to have a tossarse-ectomy, stat. The man is a terminally nasty piece of work and you would have a far better prognosis if you proceeded with the necessary surgery asap.

Jan45 · 22/01/2014 16:42

I don't think he's done this deliberately and maliciously, he clearly never wanted to get married after his divorce, but yes, he should have made this clear in no uncertain terms to you though.

You want marriage, he doesn't, other than giving him an ultimatum I don't know what else you can do, you can't make someone think something they don't but I do agree for your sake, esp when you've given up the chance to have a child, it would be nice if he could compromise for you and give you what you need.

NurseScorned · 22/01/2014 16:42

We both have 2 kids each to previous relationships. Like I say I probably wouldn't want more anyway but by being with him I'm 100% giving up any opportunity to have more kids at just 33 years old. If I can do that for him, the least he could do is commit to me properly. House is all in his name, he's been saying for ages that he'll look into putting my name to it (I am contributing significantly to payments) yet he never seems to get around to it, always tries to make out that I'd said it didn't matter. Again he knows it's important to me yet he's not bothered. We're supposed to be sorting it this Friday yet I can guarantee we won't. Funnily enough marriage would make all this house business easier too, as he well knows.

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Ragwort · 22/01/2014 16:44

Just leave him, he is clearly not interested in marriage, he's got what he wanted - a housekeeper and bed-mate. Just have some dignity and move out, don't try and 'pressurise' him into proposing.

Twinklestein · 22/01/2014 16:45

You need to STOP contributing to the payments if you are not named on the mortgage.

He just moved you in for that didn't he - he saw a 'business' opportunity and a younger woman whose money he could live on.

Swanbridge · 22/01/2014 16:46

He's so stringing you along. Not putting your name on the mortgage but he's quite happy to take your payments (and you're happy to let him?)? Leave.

Jan45 · 22/01/2014 16:47

OMG, you contribute quite a bit to the mortgage yet he can't put your name on, you've seriously no chance of him wanting to get married.

In fact, after reading the other stuff, what's to actually like about him?

msrisotto · 22/01/2014 16:47

He doesn't sound very nice op. You could do better, even if he did propose.

expatinscotland · 22/01/2014 16:50

Sort out a flat for you and your kids. Don't bother talking to this manipulative cock unless it's to say, 'Goodbye.'

MooncupGoddess · 22/01/2014 16:51

Um. What are his good points?

CheerfulYank · 22/01/2014 16:52

If he wanted to marry you, he would. I'm sorry. You deserve to have what you want out of life.

oscarwilde · 22/01/2014 16:55

Withdraw your contributions now, by all means split the bills but don't pay another penny towards a property you will have no claim on.

NurseScorned · 22/01/2014 16:57

I'm starting to think this is why he doesn't want to get married, he doesn't want me having marital rights to anything.

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MountainMumma · 22/01/2014 16:58

Nurse,
Sorry if this sounds a little harsh but it's time to wake up and smell the coffee, find your self respect! This man is treating you like a doormat and is manipulating you. Empower yourself to leave him, and don't look back, he has more to loose than you do, you need to stop 'existing' and start LIVING ... Go Girl!!! Grin