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Come and tell me to not contact this chap.

179 replies

UterusUterusGhali · 22/12/2013 13:08

I know you'll be firm with me and make me see sense. :-D

I've been casually seeing someone for a few months. FB type thing. Predictably I've fallen for him. He's been clear from the start it was never going to be serious.

So I need to stop contact, right?

But he's a really good friend too. I love having him in my life.
But I'll be heartbroken when he finds someone he really likes. (We're both still dating half heartedly)

Kick me up the arse, please!

OP posts:
HOMEQCRICH · 26/12/2013 13:18

Fair enoughski but his actions do not match his words. I am learning.

whitesugar · 26/12/2013 13:22

Uterus that last text should seal the deal, pass the bucket! Enjoy the first day of the rest of your life without that tool.

INeedSomeHelp · 26/12/2013 13:23

The weird thing is that when I read this thread I am totally outraged on behalf of everyone who is being treated this way.
But then I allow myself to be treated in exactly the same way.

ToffeeOwnsTheSausage · 26/12/2013 13:26

INeedSomeHelp - it is the same situation when one can give advice but not take your own.

HOMEQCRICH · 26/12/2013 13:28

Yep I have given some blinding advice to a friend who was in a similar situation. But am yet to take my own

BestestBrownies · 26/12/2013 13:45

Can I join this unofficial support group? I have a 'friend' exactly like the tossers you all describe.

tribpot · 26/12/2013 13:57

"let's make a deal not to care about each other any more".

The fucker's good at pulling your strings, isn't he? Oh-so-noble "I will try to forget you" bullshit when he doesn't want to be with you, lives with one ex and is also dating! Jesus Christ.

Seriously - please do try and watch The Holiday. This is the exact kind of crap Kate Winslet puts up with in that. I think she can't accept that the last five years have been a waste of her time and energy and that there truly is no happy ending with this guy.

INeedSomeHelp · 26/12/2013 14:07

None of my friends know about this guy. I think it says a lot about a "relationship" when you don't want to tell anyone about it. I know if I met someone nice they would all be delighted for me.

HOMEQCRICH · 26/12/2013 14:45

Come on in Bestest pull up a chair

Tinkertaylor1 · 26/12/2013 16:08

Xmas Shock I've never read a thread where I've wanted to bang so many heads together !

Where is your self respect ladies? I did this shit in my early teens. Hope you haven't got any dds watching your behaviour ? Sad

UterusUterusGhali · 26/12/2013 16:45

Dunno, tinker.

Maybe I lost it when my husband left me after years of telling me how repulsive I am.
Maybe a little bit dies every time he emails to tell me the same, or what a bad mother I am.

I've never had self esteem.
I'm in counselling.

I just wanted someone to say goodnight to. And ask me about my day.

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tribpot · 26/12/2013 16:51

But as someone to prop you up, this guy is worse than useless. Because you never know when he's going to prop you up and when he's going to remove the prop and leave you hanging. He doesn't have your best interests at heart the way you do his. Let's be honest, he doesn't have you at heart at all.

This will not help you recover from your marriage, it truly won't. It can't undo the damage your husband has done, because he doesn't care about you either, he's just less vicious about it.

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 26/12/2013 16:51

UUG, don't let your bastard exH carry on ruining your life. If you settle for so few crumbs from other men because of how he wrecked your self esteem, then he is still fucking with your head.

mskellyanne · 26/12/2013 16:54

Expect more for yourself ! Wow he's got it all from the sounds and your sat waiting around ... Get rid plenty of fantastic men out there who will do anything to be with you all the time Grin

Plumbingtrouble · 26/12/2013 17:54

Uterus, I am furious on your behalf. We will all say goodnight to you my lovely.

The advice on here is exactly spot on. I need to lap up the advice and not the bs I get.

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 26/12/2013 17:59

See ? You guys are getting and accepting the harshest of comments and giving no defensive or angry responses. You deserve honest relationships, and you are not getting them with these particular game players/headfuckers.

Tinkertaylor1 · 26/12/2013 17:59

uterus honestly I've have been with some cunts. One that put me in hospital amongst other things. The only thing you can do is dig deep and find it and pull your self up.

I stayed with a man that burnt me on a stove and cut my hair, strangled me till i pissed myself . I thought I was winding him up. I had low self esteem of a wanker of a df and then a string of cuntish/wankers men.

Men that used me for a shag/ punch bag

I let myself be a victim for a long time.

Don't allow anyone to treat you with out respect as you lose it for your self. Go find it!!

I found mine, stayed single for a while then found dh, who treats me like a queen . Because I expect nothing less - neither should you.

rainbowfeet · 26/12/2013 18:05

Been in same situation as you very recently... Don't contact him.. Let it fizzle out!!

I did so & was so proud of myself that I at last found some self respect & dignity (usually I'm so weak, I cling on until the painful end)! But of course got very drunk yesterday. & texted him a Merry Christmas & then later if he was at a loose end over the holidays to pop round for a drink!!Confused
He hasn't replied & once again I feel crap!!

So a tip, hide your mobile if you are getting drunk!!!!

ToffeeOwnsTheSausage · 26/12/2013 18:29

Uterus - change your email!

INeedSomeHelp · 26/12/2013 20:04

Are they psychic? I've been getting loads of messages today telling me how gorgeous I am and that he can't wait to see me.

BestestBrownies · 26/12/2013 20:29

Thanks HOMEQCRICH Smile

I posted on here about mine a few weeks ago. Basically I found out he was seeing someone else (by reading an 'I love you' message written in lipstick on his bathroom mirror almost immediately post-shag).

I shit you not.

Fortunately I don't and never did love him, but I am very lonely and miss his company. I left my XH just over a year ago and made a fresh start in a new country. My job is very demanding so I have little time to socialise or meet new people, plus my language skills aren't that great and it requires a lot of effort for me to converse.

My New Year's resolutions are going to be to force myself to get out more (even if it's raining/I'm tired/feeling shy etc), and to work on my self-esteem.

Going to watch 'The Holiday' now as a start Wink

HotDAMNlifeisgood · 26/12/2013 22:31

I'm another one currently wringing out the end of a similar relationship. The twist, perhaps, in our case is that we are both painfully aware of how commitment-phobic / emotionally unavailable we are. (I imagine this was in fact part of the strong connection we feel for each other: subconscious recognition of familiar issues...)
We'd tried to work through it with each other, but that didn't work.

Someone upthread mentioned the "He's scared, she's scared" book about emotional unavailability, and how like attracts like for the emotionally unavailable. I haven't read it, but I saw that the same author also wrote another one called "getting to commitment", which is on how to fix (one's own) fear of relationships.

So reading that and doing some internal work will be my New Years resolution. After watching the Kate Winslet film, though!

Really have been enjoying this thread.

Plumbingtrouble · 26/12/2013 23:29

Night night Uterus. I hope you sleep well. Lots of positive vibes.

I have to say after reading the posts, I am seeing more clearly now. I can see the avoidance of my questions and general evasiveness, and I really cannot be bothered with it. My motto is life is too short and here I am frigging wasting life over someone who really doesn't give a toss.

Going to bed now with David Walliams :) x

BestestBrownies · 27/12/2013 13:26

Same here plumbingtrouble. Reading everyone else's posts and recognising the behaviour makes me realise that these douchebags are all cut from the same cloth and following some kind of script. Mine is not some poor, misunderstood guy. He's a dick.

I thought so already, but this thread is really helping to make it crystal.

Mumsyblouse · 27/12/2013 13:48

why do they do this to us? if we are so fabulous, and shouldn't let ourselves be treated this way, then why do they do this and why don't they want us? properly?

Because you let them. The phrase 'first time shame on them, second time shame on you' has never seemed more appropriate.

I once met a guy like this, we had dated for a while, then stopped, then a year or two later, up he pops, it was all the big reunion, words, flowers, the whole thing, then radio silence for 10 days. When he popped up again, with some crappy excuse message, I remembered what a twat he was first time around and just didn't' text back EVER. I never dated people who let me down/gave mixed messages/couldn't decide what they wanted, why waste your time?

I can't believe all these women not only putting up with being treated badly (which it really is if these people know you'd like a relationship but are choosing to dangle you on a fwb thread) but also seeking it out by actively texting these idiots 'to see if they want to pop by'. No wonder they don't feel obliged to treat you nicely, they don't have to and you still return for more!

I have a friend who wasted years with a guy like this. By the time she came to her senses, she was late-thirties and didn't meet the lovely man she's now with til well into her forties, too late for babies for a start. I wonder if she thinks back to that time and sees it as wasted- it for sure was spent on a waster (who was good-looking of course, and liked to have a back-up plan but no intention of ever dating her).

But it's not about settling down anyway, why not either be single or find a good guy who thinks enough of you to have a proper relationship?
These fwb mess-ups are really painful to witness from the outside, sorry!