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SOS my dh wants to abort our child I'm 25 weeks

152 replies

Onmyown3 · 13/11/2013 21:53

Please help me, I'm at the end of my tether.
I have 2 children and I'm 25 weeks pregnant, I have been with my husband since I was 15 years old. We have a nice life, not wealthy but comfortable. I do everything in our relationship and everything for our children. I have recently become the breadwinner and hold a high position in a well known company im often all round the uk, yet I do all the school runs, meals, ironing, house work, homework, cleaning, shopping etc.

For The first time in 6 months I've asked my husband to collect our children from after school tomorrow as I am in a long meeting in London all day (I asked him 2 months ago to do this)

He has come home tonight and said he has had to have a hectic day at work today because of having to do me the favour of picking the kids up tomoro (he doesn't have to pick then up until 6.30!)

I asked him why he felt like that and that the children were both of our responsibilty so why should it always be up to me? He said he's had his position in his company longer than I have (this is incorrect he has a zero hour contract for a building firm that he's worked at for 6 months, although he trained to do his trade since he was 18 where as I've been with my company for 6 years but only in this new position 7months)

He said that he's decided I will have to collect the children tomorrow - he isn't doing it, the children aren't his problem!!?!

I got really cross and said how dare he, he helped to create them, he wanted them, we are a family what is wrong with him?! I asked if he was saying that I'm basically alone then and we are havin another child?! Should i just be on my own?

He said "you can get rid of it then, I don't care anymore" and stormed out.

I would NOT ever abort my baby - but this is not the first issue like this we've had. I don't know how to make him realise - he seriously thinks a man works and a woman should work, look after the children and the house - normally I do mange to do this.

I honestly can't give anymore to my family than I do. I dont work from choice but to provide and my hubby loves reaping the rewards of my job - driving my flashy Company car, gifts, outings, the comfortable home etc.

I don't ever even mention about my earnings but since I've got this position its changed his attitude. He doesn't want to work with me - it's like he resents me for it. Whys he like this? I've tried talking to him until I'm blue in the face, he says one thing and says he will change and that he will help but does another.

I don't believe he really wants me to get rid our child, I think it's anger but how can he even think this.

Should i just give up and be on my own?

Every time I have an important meeting or it's a big occasion he seems to do something like this. Last year he didn't turn up to his own sons birthday party.

Please help - the more this goes in the less I feel for him.

Btw - I have no family to rely on, its just me :'( thats all my children have got. X x x x

OP posts:
GimmeDaBoobehz · 13/11/2013 22:15

Get rid .

TondelayoSchwarzkopf · 13/11/2013 22:15

You're a single parent anyway so I would kick that wanker out and have a much happier life.

Handbagsonnhold · 13/11/2013 22:16

Op what a horrible situation. Think he feels very threatened with you being the higher earner and is treating his family dreadfully. You seem to do everything his attitude stinks. Can you ever forgive him for his outburst and that is even if he says sorry? He sounds awful Hmm
Take care

AlbertGiordino · 13/11/2013 22:17

I never post in on these threads as I generally think its unfair to offer advice based on only one side of a story.

However, on this occasion, it seems unfair not to tell you that you would be MILES better off on your own or "without the dickhead" as someone so eloquently put it.

Good luck!Thanks

NorthernLurker · 13/11/2013 22:19

Get divorced.

Get a nanny.

BelleDameSansMerci · 13/11/2013 22:19

My ex (DD's dad) gives me more support and assistance than your husband is giving you.

Pay someone for the wrap around childcare if necessary and ditch this useless arse. Sad

goodtimesinbontemps · 13/11/2013 22:22

Parenting is supposed to be a joint effort, he is opting out and leaving it up to you which isn't right or fair but I suspect you know that already.

cloudskitchen · 13/11/2013 22:22

I have never ever said this on here before but on the back of the info you have given here I really think you'd be better off without him. What a waste of space. You are doing everything already so what exactly is he bringing to the party other than problems!

minibmw2010 · 13/11/2013 22:24

Ditch him, get a full time Nanny when/if you go back to work after ML.

McFox · 13/11/2013 22:25

He just sounds horrible. That's appalling behaviour and you deserve much better. As you're the one providing for your family emotionally and financially anyway, do you really need someone like that in your life?

bluebirdwsm · 13/11/2013 22:29

You are at the end of your tether, and you have a good job and sound capable.

He sounds like he's sick of his life, is resentful, uncooperative, a poor parent, uncaring husband and irresponsible.

You'd be far happier on your own, with your lovely kids and new baby.

QuintessentialShadows · 13/11/2013 22:29

"Should i just give up and be on my own?"

Yes

Your life would be much better.

starlight1234 · 13/11/2013 22:33

Just a question for you..What is keeping you there?

EugenesAxe · 13/11/2013 22:44

It's such a shame that this is happening in a relationship that's this well established - I hope you have some support, somewhere, as it must be quite weird contemplating life without him.

I think he will continue to struggle to accept your success. It may be worth suggesting counselling to him as I think there must be a lot not being said by him. He's not being adult but behaving like a petulant teenager - if he realises he may lose you (and almost certainly his children, if he does do this little for them) then he may be willing to step up.

How senior is your job - good enough to afford a nanny or could you get an au pair or something? I hope you can sort it out.

chansondumatin · 13/11/2013 22:44

He sounds very controlling - "He's decided I will have to collect the children" - wtf? He feels 'emasculated' because he's not the breadwinner any more (so can't control the finances), so he's resorted to having tantrums and checking out of family life.

I'd cut your losses and throw his sorry arse out. Sounds like you'd manage brilliantly without him.

bigbrick · 13/11/2013 22:50

Why do you stay with your dh? You are doing all by yourself any way so would actually give you free time as you wouldn't be looking after him if you left him

Onmyown3 · 13/11/2013 23:29

Thanks for all your replies, I really appreciate it.

He was my childhood sweetheart & we've been together a long time & been through what I considered 'tougher times' and I know I'm not perfect myself.

I'm still attracted to him and he is mostly i think a good dad... Well good when he is around but he could be better & far more involved! (He just picks his parenting moments really)

He does no house work, childcare or cleaning but He cooks sometimes and nearly always makes a Sunday dinner, in fact Sunday is usually the only day we see him all day..He plays with the children around the house but doesn't care to do family outings or even family holidays anymore as he says the children 'ruin it'

Our children are typically very well behaved & hardly ever misbehave in public. I can't believe he has said if I don't collect them they will be left there :( I really hope it was just his frustration talking but he is so stubborn & will not collect them just to make his point. I have a 3 hour drive each way tomorrow so I'll have to try and finish early - not great for my job but I think he wants to make it hard. We would be financially screwed if i didn't have my position though.

On our daughters birthday a few months ago we all went for a walk and flew a kite together which i thought was a turning point but he's declined every time since. So I usually take the children out alone.

I don't have anyone really a couple of friends and work colleagues and my father but all live a distance away. My children are my main company and my whole life really apart from my job.

Dh Occasionally changes a nappy but avoids it wherever possible. He never did any night feeds. I came home 7 hours after giving birth last time and did everything.

In all honesty I don't know what I get from the relationship anymore - the sex is for him when he wants etc, quality family time never happens - the cuddles in bed don't even happen anymore the only days he can take part in are lazy sundays.

He doesn't really buy gifts for birthdays, Xmas etc unless I moan, I received nothing last birthday or last Xmas. But when we argued a few months ago he came home & had bought me a new coat for no reason! He occassionally will bring home wine.

He doesn't buy gits for his family or our children - I do all this. He goes food shopping occasionally perhaps once every 2 months. He doesn't contribute towards anything apart from childcare for the children.

He contributes towards childcare and half towards house bills - that's it! I don't think he has any idea how the children are clothed, shoes etc.

The reason i stay - I think I just see how much happier we were once and how much the children love him and I think I still love him and I hope we could get back there but I think I'm kidding myself.

Crinkeyblimey I'm genuinely envious - I would be over the moon if dh did that.

He use the have his own business but it sunk a few years ago - I kept us a float but it was very hard times & how we are still together now I don't know.

He took this zero hour contract job and I took a promotion but ever since I started providing more say over the last year or so... He seems to work more - I secretly wonder if he feel intimidated. I think he now tries to work over time just to see if he can meet my wages etc - it's not something that bothers me so I don't know why he is so hung up on it if this is the case.

To me as a family everything should be shared it should all go in one pot. I do everything I can to make his life comfortable - I get up in a morning, feed/ dress/ bathe the children then make him coffee, usually do him a pack lunch & see him off. Then I have to get ready, drop the children off at childcare all before 7.45 unless I work from home and the routines a little more relaxed.

I thought the abortion limit was around 20 weeks, it's not something I would consider anyway.

We have spoken about a nanny or au pair before but I like doing things for my children and being hands on. We have the room, my dh is really keen on the idea - I don't even know why as it wouldn't make much difference to him.

I fully intend on going back to work after 4- 6 months maternity leave, I cant afford not too.

I wont forgive or forget what he has said about the baby whether he meant it or not.

I just feel so confused & alone. I think the loneliness gets to me the most. Knowing that although to everyone else we are the happy family that have been together since childhood with happy children but behind closed doors it's just me he's detached.

We haven't spoken since the argument - what should i do? Get up, Sort the children out, go to my meeting as normal and leave early to pick them up just ignore him if he bothers to get in touch?

I don't understand how a parent can say these things or say they won't pick there own flesh and blood up for no reason other than its inconvenient? What is wrong with this man? This isn't who I fell in love with.

I think I will be better of without him but is there any alternatives anyone could think off to try and give him one last final kick in the right direction ?!

Btw - I tried kicking him out once a few months ago in the hope he would realise how gd he has it at home. He went to his mothers & she did everything for him, I don't think he even noticed a difference. He came home after 2 weeks promising he would change... But now we gave this issue it's like back to square 1.

I think things are going to be worst when the baby comes if I don't get things addressed before. Any advise would be really appreciated thanks to everyone that's already commented I've read and took on board then all xxx

OP posts:
dunfightin · 13/11/2013 23:44

Why don't you ask his mother for emergency childcare tomorrow or phone a last minute nanny agency.
My ex was like this, including not being around for DCs birthdays and generally sulking until he found another schmuck to devote herself to him.
Just show him that you are not bothered and that his behaviour won't get to you leave or lose your job.
He feels bad about himself so is kicking you. Inexcusable Angry

MsPavlichenko · 13/11/2013 23:45

To be honest, and I know this myself, I expect your life will be easier with him away. You'll be amazed.

Also whilst he may be a loving father, and I'm sure your DC do love him he is not a good one. His behaviour towards you shows that.

Is he the role model you would want to your DC, is this how you want them to grow up?

If he really loves them he will do everything he can to be a parent to them even if you live apart. If he doesn't, well it is his loss, and not your responsibility.

Crikeyblimey · 13/11/2013 23:45

I didn't mean to sound smug - I just wanted to put a bit of perspective in your mind. What happened at our house today was not all that special - it is what people do when there are jobs to be done and children to be attended to.

I know you've been with your dh for ever but honestly, he seems to show no respect for your family.

I would seriously consider being on your own and getting a nanny. I guess he is keen on the nanny idea right now because the. You really wouldn't have any reason to "expect" him to "help".

I hope things work out for you.

Mmmbacon · 13/11/2013 23:50

I think you need to read your last post back again after you have taken your rose tinted glasses again

You need to get him to leave, and to rely on yourself, it doesn't matter where he goes mammies our a b&b, what matters is the atmosphere at home once he is gone,

Were you less stressed, planning things without wondering if he would throw a strip the might before, wondering what he would be like when you had to ask him the next "favour"

OhFishyFishyFishyFish · 13/11/2013 23:56

but doesn't care to do family outings or even family holidays anymore as he says the children 'ruin it'

Sad
Ehhn · 14/11/2013 00:00

Get a lodger to pay half your bills. Make sure you get your tax credits and child benefit. Chuck him out and carry on being a multi-tasking, well-organised super mum, because he sure as heck is adding nothing but some cash and an extra mouth to feed.

Handbagsonnhold · 14/11/2013 00:00

Op I've just read your last post....I bet you are exhausted with all this on your plate and being pregnant....not to mention work, commutes etc. Of course he needs to be there to sort his children tmrw no question about it. You sound like a lovely person and I almost wish he could read what you have just written. If you give him a final chance then you could try to convey it to him just like that.

Sending you a hug x

volvocowgirl · 14/11/2013 00:04

Please kick this joke of a man out before your baby is born and has to put up with living with such a useless father. How awful for your children to be treated like this by this 'man'. He needs to grow up, take responsibility, stop using you and then beg for your forgiveness! (And then I still wouldn't forgive him TBH)