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Lap dance at stag do

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worrybynature · 04/08/2013 10:16

I'm getting married a week today. Dp's stag was last night. He knows how I feel about strippers, and that I don't agree with it. He had a lap dance in a stretch hummer. I feel disgusted thinking about a naked woman grinding on his lap- I feel like he has been unfaithful. How do I get over this?

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arsenaltilidie · 06/08/2013 20:07

Stag do with a stripper are nothing new.
She won't be the first to ask for no stripper and he won't be the first BM to not listen. That's the culture right or wrong.

It's laughable how some post are encouraging her to cancel the wedding or the very least not invite the BM.

If my wife tells me who should be my friends or not then that would be the end of us.
Go ahead and listen to the wise people and cancel the wedding.

What's probably practical is to make it clear nothing like this will ever happen.

AnyFucker · 06/08/2013 20:09

She already did that, arsenal

Offred · 06/08/2013 20:15

I've only said postponing the wedding is wise.

It isn't about the stripper.

It is about the fact the position of the op was known to her p and he not only disregarded it but he minimised it and then said nothing when his friend humiliated her over it.

It is possible (if I am being generous) that he was being a drunken arse when not used to alcohol and that he may well be a respectful partner but it seems like something to take seriously and if there is a question over whether a partner has respect for you (or your entire gender) it seems crazy to take a risk on marrying them anyway when you could take some time to properly consider and find out instead.

There is

Vivacia · 06/08/2013 20:16

If my wife tells me who should be my friends or not then that would be the end of us.

Why? She wouldn't be the first wife to ask this. That's the culture, right or wrong. It's laughable that you would finish your relationship over such a small thing.

Right?

Offred · 06/08/2013 20:17

Should have said:

I've only said postponing the wedding is wise.

It isn't about the stripper.

It is about the fact the position of the op was known to her p and he not only disregarded it but he minimised it and then said nothing when his friend humiliated her over it.

It is possible (if I am being generous) that he was being a drunken arse when not used to alcohol and that he may well be a respectful partner but it seems like something to take seriously and if there is a question over whether a partner has respect for you (or your entire gender) it seems crazy to take a risk on marrying them anyway when you could take some time to properly consider and find out instead.

There is plenty of time for a wedding when this has been worked through. Especially important to get it right for the child that is involved.

Offred · 06/08/2013 20:19

But I agree about the friends bit actually.

You don't have to like your partner's friends but I would seriously doubt someone's love for me if they casually ignored their friend actively treating me like shit on their shoe.

I'd dump the fucker though, I wouldn't ask them to dump their friend.

Offred · 06/08/2013 20:26

I'd find it demeaning and my p pathetic if I needed to ask them to dump a friend like this tbh.

WorrySighWorrySigh · 06/08/2013 21:10

I dont think that uninviting the BM is the same thing as telling the DP to dump a friend. Getting married is a serious business not a weekend barbecue. The guests should be people who both bride and groom are happy to have participate in their wedding.

Offred · 06/08/2013 21:17

What's the point in asking your p to uninvite his best mate though?

If it doesn't come from him himself it is a sign he doesn't care that his mate treats his future wife like shit on his shoe and if she asks to have him excluded the p (and bm by extension) can place himself into the victim role and the op into the villian thereby enabling himself to feel justified in (him and his mate) treating her with no respect.

I'm afraid I'd be more concerned with considering whether the p was a friend of the marriage than the (somewhat irrelevant) arsehole wedding guest. That's surely a vastly more important issue the arsehole has helpfully highlighted BEFORE the wedding...

Hitchy83 · 06/08/2013 21:17

OP, i really want you to put comments from this forum to one side for a minute, i know in my experience most of the comments i had tended to make things 10 times more hurtful than was actually helpful!

One of the best things someone did said to me though was that 'only you know the bones of your DP'. Are his actions worth separating over? People do make mistakes and by the sounds of it his best man had a lot to do with this. You sound like you are defending him against a lot of negative comments which i think answers the question in your own heart of how you truly feel. Is he a good husband, father, son? Do his good qualities outweigh this one off incident?

At our counseling session she said in some ways its the realisation that the image you always had of this person has changed. In some relationships this can happy early on, in others it happens further down the line and it can be potentially more hurtful in this way. I always placed my husband on this pedestal and part of this was that i never even questioned him after the stag do because i just assumed it wasn't something he would ever do. I know this is different as you did stipulate this before hand, but i'm guessing in a hummer its been a difficult situation to avoid, in comparison to actually walking into a strip club. I told my husband in the counselling that i couldnt get over it and didnt think i could forgive him for, the counseelor said that you should not be expected to just get over it but rather take your own time to work through your thoughts and feelings. It was also ok for me not to forgive him, its something that really hurt me and i shouldnt have to, it doesnt mean we cant move on though, does that make sense?

The issues i had following our lowest point were basically around my personal body issues, and these are still ongoing. after having DS i dont look like i used to, stretch marks and baby belly just make me feel so inadequate and i still have images of this gorgeous skinny tanned girl all over my DH. This sounds similar to what you're thinking about, but when ive spoken to my DH and i said you must have fancied her and wanted to have sex with her and obviously now im a disappointment, he said no, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Its true i guess, I dont fancy all the guys at the gym and their buff bodies, and i didnt notice when my DH put on weight because i love him and have always found him to be completely sexy. Your DP wants to marry you, he's had a child with you and he had the decency to tell you what had happened and how much he regretted it.

I'm not saying its going to be easy, there are going to be highs and lows but in my experience i had to accept that my DH made a mistake and move on. When i see him with our son and when we spend time as a family i couldnt imagine it any other way, i never wanted to leave him, i was / still am hurting, doesnt mean i dont love him though.

I really do hope you sort things out and have an amazing day at the weekend, i'm so sorry you're going through this at a time when you should be so happy and excited. I would seriously remove the BM from his position though, it will only anger you on the day seeing him. Ask DP to make him an usher instead and ask someone else, its the least he can do in the situation. If you need anything else please feel free to PM me, i've been there so know exactly how you're feeling, even if its just for a rant without the fear of being judged on here!

Sending you all my best thoughts x

Offred · 06/08/2013 21:22

Something charbon once said to me about my own relationship comes to mind. It was about being the "moral guardian" of my dh and his mates. This is what happens when you start explaining to and setting boundaries for p's who walk on your boundaries and mates who behave misogynistically etc and asking for mates who treat you like crap to be excluded from various things. You set yourself up to be the parent, the bad guy and the moral guardian and you place your p in the child/victim's position, you take on the entire emotional weight of the relationship.

It is some of the best and most insightful advice I've ever been given.

Offred · 06/08/2013 21:23

And good lord, I'm not talking about separating (although I think I would I know the op is different) but I am suggesting the wedding is postponed... Postponed rather than cancelled btw...

arsenaltilidie · 06/08/2013 21:33

Viv my wife telling me who I should be friends with will mean I will resent her, meaning the end of us.

AnyFucker · 06/08/2013 21:35

My husband (or husband to be) standing by and allowing some fuckwit to treat me like this one has would be the end of us

AnyFucker · 06/08/2013 21:37

He basically loaded the ammunition, knocked the safety off and pointed the gun for him. Nobody who did that deserves to be in my life. If my H would dump me for objecting to that it wouldn't matter because then we would have a collaborative split.

XiCi · 06/08/2013 21:45

I agree AF. The description of the BM sat there making jibes at the OP and telling her that her DP 'licked her minge' while he sat there and did nothing - to me that is worse than having a lap dance in the first place. Your DH should always have your back, want to protect you and your feelings.

I couldn't marry a man that would stand back and let someone ride roughshod all over me. Let someone bully me when they knew how upset it would make me. Not exactly showing love and respect is it.

Vivacia · 06/08/2013 21:47

Viv my wife telling me who I should be friends with will mean I will resent her, meaning the end of us.

I was replying, tongue-in-cheek to your post. I used nearly the same language.

TroublesomeEx · 06/08/2013 21:48

I was just going to say that AF.

arsenal I don't disagree with you. I wouldn't ever tell any boyfriend/partner/husband of mine who they could and couldn't be friends with. They are an independent adult who has the right to be friends with and behave in any way they choose to. And if I started dictating to them, then I would expect them to end the relationship.

However, if those friends and behaviours are incompatible with my own principles and beliefs, then I would consider that to be the end of us from my end.

I don't like the idea that this is about women letting or not letting men be men.

I would have ended the relationship over this situation.

AnyFucker · 06/08/2013 21:51

Indeed, FG. I don't tell my H who he can/cannot be friends with.

I judge him by his actions like I do everyone else. If he acted like this bloke has, he would no longer be my husband and I wouldn't waste any time debating whether or not he can stay friends with anyone.

Vivacia · 06/08/2013 21:51

(And for the record I stated up thread that a woman in this position shouldn't be dictating who her husband is friends with. It was the tone of Arsenal's shit about men and strippers that I took exception to).

arsenaltilidie · 06/08/2013 21:52

Over my head :)

They are clearly taking a piss and 'bantering'

arsenaltilidie · 06/08/2013 21:53

Please elaborate my tone.

Darkesteyes · 06/08/2013 21:54

What charbon said there was insightful Offred. Thats why i linked the Guardian article about the "Peter Pan husband" into the thread. I thought it was relevant.

clam · 06/08/2013 21:54

He can still be mates with him. I just would not view him as a supporter of the marriage/relationship and therefore totally inappropriate in the role of Best Man.

Hitchy makes some good points back there. However, I'll say again, the OP's fiancé doesn't consider himself to have made a mistake. He thinks a lapdancer/stripper at a stag do is "tradition," and she's over-reacting and needs to "get over it."

This total disregard for her feelings is the biggest red flag as far as I can see. Apart from the dodgy company he keeps.

AnyFucker · 06/08/2013 22:00

Arsenal you consider the conversation between OP's scummy fiance and his equally scummy mates to be "banter" ? Is that what you meant ?

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