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Is this worth pursuing?

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maryclarey · 29/07/2013 00:18

I'm sorry - this is long. I'll try to be succinct. I just need some perspective.

A few months ago I started seeing someone having just ended a long term relationship. We both agreed it was casual at the beginning, meeting just for sex. I would go to his place (I was staying on a friends sofa bed at the time) and go home that night. He didn't want a relationship and neither did I. That was fine, for a while. I started to have some feelings but I kept them in check as I didn't want to get too close.

Things started to change a little, in that I started staying overnight at his invitation and we would spend time talking about our lives rather than just having sex.

Around the time I moved into my own place I decided to take a risk and ask him on a real date. He said he was comfortable with that but jokingly said he might freak out if I asked him to move in or something. I said he didn't need to worry about that at this point (for goodness sake!). We were both nervous on the date but it was lovely.

A few dates and weeks later he turned up at my place late one night telling me how much he liked being with me and how he hadn't slept with anyone else since we met. I didn't really respond much because he was a bit drunk at the time and I was a bit caught off guard and didn't know how to take it. However we kept seeing each other, having a really good time and started alternating staying at his place and mine, going on proper dates and not always having sex, just being quietly comfortable in each others company. We didn't talk about that night again.

I've met his brother who he lives with, and he's met my best friends who I live with. We have socialised with both. We haven't met any other of our groups of friends. He has told his work mates about me and I have told mine about him (our companies are linked). He's agreed to come to a work function with me, no hesitation.

We now spend practically every weekend together, it's grown to three nights a week if we are both in town. He takes me to nice places and seems proud to be seen with me. I feel the same way.

I started to feel I needed to know if we were heading somewhere. Unfortunately I decided to raise this at 4am when we had both been out drinking. I thought I asked him if he saw me as a potential girlfriend when or if that time came, he thought I was asking if he saw me as his girlfriend right now. He said no. He said he is enjoying what we have and how we are getting to know each other now and he wants to see where things go. He got quite upset, talking about how when he moves in with someone it'll be the person he wants to marry. I asked who had even mentioned moving in? He really jumped the gun but as I say, we had been drinking. Next morning we talked a little more. I cleared up the misunderstanding about my question the night before but made it clear I don't want to get hurt again, waiting around for something that might never happen (as in my last relationship). He said he understood but he wants to take things slow, by which I took to mean he felt I was rushing him. He had to leave for work then, he was concerned I was still a bit upset, gave me a hug, kissed me several times and left.

We are affectionate in public and he holds my hand and is a gentleman in general. He has passed the waitress test with flying colours and is generous and kind to all. He has a great relationship with his family. However, he has told me how he has ended relationships in the past because he realised when they started talking about moving in together that he didn't want to marry them, so he called them off. He did live with one partner and from what I gather it ended badly, which may be where his fear of commitment stems from, I don't know.

So my question is, dear mumsnetters, am I wasting my time or should I give him some time to see if it goes anywhere? I don't want to be a mug but I don't want to let something potentially good slip through my fingers.

Apologies for the epic length of this post!

TIA

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cahemo · 29/07/2013 15:07

Aye, well I am biased.Grin The idea of not living with a guy but only seeing him because I wanted to and he me and having a good time without any major drama is appealing.

Don't knock it. Of course if you want a baby and have not much time left, then you've got to get out now. If not, just enjoy the time.

maryclarey · 29/07/2013 15:08

Sorry, lots of cross posts, I can't keep up!

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Missbopeep · 29/07/2013 15:09

Did you read my post?

I didn't give an ultimatum.

You don't have to give an ultimatum, you just have to change your behaviour. You cannot change him or force his hand.

But if you keep doing the same things you cannot expect different outcomes. Why should you?

So don't give an ultimatum- just be less available and stop putting all your eggs in one basket.

You are behaving as you are based on your fear of being alone, or childless, or both.

Be proactive instead of reacting to his behaviour.

maryclarey · 29/07/2013 15:09

I'm only 32, but I don't want to waste my best years iyswim!

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scrazy · 29/07/2013 15:10

Mine started out casual for a couple of years then the 'courting' started, funnily enough so kind of back to front. So men do appear to go out on a limb but back off when it comes to commitment.

If a man genuinely cares about you he will want to make you happy, and not shy away from calling you his girlfriend. Think about it the other way round. If you have feelings for this man and it sounds like you do, would you pussy foot around? I know I wouldn't.

maryclarey · 29/07/2013 15:11

Missbopeep I see what you are saying. I do try not to put all my eggs in one basket.

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maryclarey · 29/07/2013 15:13

But I am pussy footing around. When he came to my place and told me what he was feeling I did not reciprocate.

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maryclarey · 29/07/2013 15:13

And I do have feelings for him.

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recall · 29/07/2013 15:14

crapartist Its only been a few months, just relax and enjoy him?don't look for problems when there aren't any. Don't put yourself under pressure to sort it out. I reckon if you give it more time, it will resolve itself?.its only been months, its early days. It would be a big red flag if he was jumping forward too quickly. He is still getting to know you, you can't expect him to start making life long commitments based on a few months. If you corner him, or pressurise him to commit to you, then what is that commitment worth ? I wouldn't blame him for backing away from someone who gives him ultimatums/demands at this stage.

maryclarey · 29/07/2013 15:17

Neither would I recall! But I won't backtrack now, that would be a bit pathetic.

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recall · 29/07/2013 15:18

what do you mean ?

maryclarey · 29/07/2013 15:19

I mean I can't take back what I said about girlfriend status and pretend I didn't mean it. Sorry, am on phone and not being very clear.

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Twirlyhot · 29/07/2013 15:20

I'd leave him to it and move on.

You could hang around for another 18 months and tread on eggshells so he doesn't feel 'pressured' but it's not going to do you any good in the long run.

There are some men who keep women at arms length, stringing them along (sometimes for years) with their 'trouble with committment' then up meeting someone, moving in with them, proposing and marrying within a year.

maryclarey · 29/07/2013 15:21

Im sorry, I've misunderstood your post. I get what you mean now about ultimatums.

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recall · 29/07/2013 15:22

He did say he was enjoying what you had now, and enjoying getting to know you and wanted to see where things go...

maryclarey · 29/07/2013 15:23

I want to trust that he means that recall but its hard. I've been hurt before.

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Missbopeep · 29/07/2013 15:25

It's only been a few months. If you were saying it had been a year or two, or three, then different story. Don't you think you are being unrealistic to expect commitment so soon?

And unless you are dating other men or at least considering yourself available, the your eggs are all in one basket.

recall · 29/07/2013 15:26

If I was you crapartist I would just carry on with him, he sounds nice, but also keep your options open. If someone else comes along, you are at liberty to date them too.

recall · 29/07/2013 15:27

Don't allow past relationships to spoil this one, and don't have expectations, because he doesn't know what they are, so is unaware if he doesn't meet them.

maryclarey · 29/07/2013 15:28

Yes I suppose they are. I guess I meant not making him my entire world.

I don't think it was too soon, things were happening and I wanted to know where I stood. But from his perspective yeah, its clearly too soon.

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maryclarey · 29/07/2013 15:28

Thats true recall.

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Missbopeep · 29/07/2013 15:29

If you don't want the uncertainty that almost always goes with new relationships, then you shouldn't be in one. You can never ever have 100% certainty that something is going to be permanent- not even if you are married. Trust develops over a long period of time. You can't demand it.

If you are worried about being left, your behaviour will show that- and negative thoughts usually result in negative reactions and outcomes.

recall · 29/07/2013 15:30

agree with missbopeep

Twirlyhot · 29/07/2013 15:30

How long was the relationship you came out of?

maryclarey · 29/07/2013 15:30

Also true Missbopeep. I am listening to all your good advice.

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