Waves is determined to keep winning now that Acrobat has arrived.

[wavesandsmiles]

So, Acrobat did actually arrive (only just) on the last thread. And he is here and lovely!

Links to previous threads:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/a1670597-So-DH-said

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/1745551-DH-said-DH-left-waves-is-still-being-sick-but-into-the-third-timester

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/a1801734-Waves-is-winning-Here-comes-the-Acrobat

Fuck lodger 2 tbf

Perhaps at some stage (not that I am encouraging you to do any work here!!) you can look for a replacement for lodger 2. I certainly would - some things are a death knell to a sharing relationship. the point is, you know what you want and it's not him. You're the boss.

Blimey waves I've just caught up on the last couple of days as I've been focussing on the other thread.

Glad to hear you have had a quieter day today. And it's brilliant that C has taken to feeding so well - have you worked on your latch on the left?

A little hand expressing can help relieve the engorgement too. I never got very good at it (ie for proper expressing) but in/after a shower it became pretty easy to do and that helped a lot in the first few weeks.

I agree too about getting the older DCs to do more if possible. With the weather being as it is they could help to make dinner without cooking eg putting together a salad and quiche or something?

Sounds like new lodger is lovely btw.

I'm sorry but male lodgers suck!
Night night lovely (please try the cabbage leaves too!)

Snooze time, caspian all snugly so maybe at least an hour will happen? Need to google bright green newborn poo first. Hoping for some Savoy cabbage to appear tomorrow, have someone popping out to look for some for me.

Lodgers in general are hard work. Ah well, if I get a decent enough job when I go back to work I might be able to do away with a shared facilities lodger completely, which would certainly reduce the stress levels.

Yes to cabbage leaves. They really do help with engorgement.

I'd be telling lodger two that if he didn't like xyz then there was always a-b-c-door and to please give as short notice as possible. You need more people like new lodger, to be honest.

I wonder whether male lodgers expect to be waited on as if by their mums and that is why they can't hack life in a shared house where they have to behave like adults?

Green newborn poo often means too much lactose - if it has been hot and baby has been snacking a lot, i.e. having drinks rather than full feeds - the boy needs to excrete the excess lactose and it can make poo green. The hot weather and frequent drinking could account for it. It happens in growth spurts too. If he looks to you as if he is healthy and plumping out then he will be fine, but you can always get him weighed if you are feeling a bit anxious, but as long as he is having alert periods interspersed with normal sleep and baby behaviour he's fine.

Sleep well, Waves. You really are doing excellently.

Vis a vis, lodger 2, I would point out that if he wanted to live in a hotel then he can pay hotel prices. As it is, this is a family home and if something isn't up to his standards then he can jolly well do it himself. Particularly with a new born around, you really shouldn't be waiting on him hand and foot. If he wants the bathroom cleaner then the cleaning stuff is here, and if he wants the corridor hoovered then the hoover is kept there, etc.

I thought it might be Caspian could be mildly affected by any medication you're on waves but that's just one possibility so I'll gladly step aside for the experts.

Re: lodger 2 - he is either angling for a reduction in rent or indulging in a moan but not so bothered he'll attend to it himself. If he doesn't like it he can always leave.

A friend of mine has a husband who is fussy about tidiness and cleanliness (think pure anal) - so if he doesn't like the way things are, HE gets to deal with it. He does - he does all the housework. Their house is like a show home (very uncomfortable, IMO!)
So I'd be telling lodger 2 that it's his choice - he can either a) shut up, b) do something about it himself or c) find somewhere more suited to his overly exacting standards.

I never tried the cabbage leaves but I've heard they work well - but ibuprofen works very well too! And has the advantage of knocking out some of the pain of the shredded nips. Try to take it after a feed; it takes 20 minutes to start working and wears off after a few hours; so that will minimise any chance of any of it getting into the milk.

I had a DS1 whose little arms used to flail around and push away from me whilst latched on (ouch). In the end I found that wrapping a muslin from his back to his tummy over his upper arm and having the other arm under mine made for a calmer and less ouchy feed. Getting that right also helped heal my sore nips.

Thank you all for the advice on the feeding, positioning, painkillers, flailing arms etc Things feel a little easier today, at least in so much as I had a pretty much pain free feed on the bad side over night. Although now the other side is sorer We didn't get a block of sleep, but maybe this afternoon I will be able to squeeze in a little nap.

I think the MW is coming today - was told yesterday, but no-one arrived. We have to go out this morning so I will phone to let them know that. I will also speak to her about the feeding and see if she can help at all.

Might see about giving him a bath soon and ask DD to be the photographer. LONG time since I bathed a baby, let alone a newborn.

PS - poo is still greenish but less bright green than yesterday (it was like food colouring then!!!). Hoping it will return to normal soon, and that it was just C getting too much foremilk as a result of engorgement/milk coming in properly.

Unless you're on antibiotics we always suspect a feeding issue with green poo at this stage. Do you have infant feeding advisors/breastfeeding counsellors in your area - either NHS or NCT? They often have more time than community midwives to spend with you on feeding advice. Def contact them ASAP as well at the MW for support.

Maybe keep a nappy for the MW to check the colour?

Hope you have a good day today and make sure you don't take any crap off the lodger. Don't tolerate his rudeness when you have ignored him.

back to entitled lodgers: I recently had a male lodger. Dead cool, dreads, musician, chef, lovely guy, laid back etc. He was a nightmare. He washed up his stuff, and only his stuff, with great precision and expected all communal areas to be kept sparkling.... by me, it appeared. I think he thought I was his mother and that I should pay for tea, sugar, loo roll etc like a blackpool landlady. Got rid of him. Think shared house, waves , but with the difference that you're in charge! haha, it's up to you to set the pace and if they don't like it...

Glad to hear you're feeling a bit better today waves . These are the toughest days with a new baby and that's aside from grappling to come to terms with a feckless, cruel ex and the loss of hope. Hour at a time my darling xxx

It's yellow now....

Will see how we get on today but there is plenty of support here for breastfeeding

He's had his first bath and loved it. Well, he basically stretched out floating and fell asleep. It was quite magical.

Oh my heart swelled reading about C's bath! DD tended to poo in hers!

Glad you've lots of bf support round there. We had very little and my midwives tended to sit about watching me saying "that's not normal pain" and tell me I should use the bottle. In the end I capitulated; one of the biggest regrets of my life.

Oh bless him! DD hated baths until a few weeks ago when I bought a new thermometer and realised she likes it at 34-35 degrees and no hotter :)

Hope you manage to nap today.

A little merman as well as acrobat have a great day.

Rugby ball hold great on flailing arms too - as you have them nicely under your arm to stop that...

Lovely about the bath Waves! DS just screamed in his.

That's beautiful Waves! It is his natural environment after all! Sounds like he'd really take to water baby classes! My DD2 was like that & she's always been able to swim as we started classes when she was 3 months old.

Oh dear - midwives aren't popular are they?!

Morning everyone.

I think with every job, you get good and not so good midwives.

My cousin is a mw and a bloody good one. She's delivered 3 of my 5 niece/ nephews and my sil said she was brilliant.

Well done waves, I loved bathing my 2. Such a lovely time for bonding I thought. Bet he'd love water baby classes

Thanks Jax. Yes same here - having a bath with my babies was another really special time. I still end up with 2 big girls in with me sometimes!

Bathing newborns... That musky smell... [wistful]

How lovely he fell asleep in his bath .

Yellow poo is good.