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Waves is winning.....Here comes the Acrobat!

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Links to previous threads:

Will this become the live birth thread? Will Lodger 1 leave? Will waves be smiling throughout this thread?

Doula is on call, bags are packed, acrobat was a teeny 14 weeks foetus when I started posting - he is about to become DC3, I'll stop being sick and a whole new chapter will begin.

auntpetunia Sat 13-Jul-13 07:40:36

The answer to the last 2 questions is a great big YES! And the first …Well let's see what young acrobat decides!

You've done so Well Waves and very soon you get to meet your gorgeous new baby, with no twunt or TB or L1 to spoil it. And you'll stop being sick which can only be a good thing!

Enjoy the sunshine and your music and I hop DD feels better today.

MinnieBar Sat 13-Jul-13 08:06:55

<delurks to make terrible puns>

Tidal waves
It's a sea change
On the crest of a wave
The tide is turning
It's a new wave

<goes back to hooking furiously and selfishly hopes Acrobat doesn't come just yet>
<that's hooking as in crochet, just so as there's no misunderstanding wink>

CurlyFox Sat 13-Jul-13 08:12:12

I've been reading your posts for a while delurking to say good luck and yay for acrobat

MysteriousHamster Sat 13-Jul-13 08:23:51

Good luck waves, not long to go now!

AgathaF Sat 13-Jul-13 08:26:55

Ooh a shiny new thread. Hope it's a lovely one with a lovely new baby born in an appropriate time slot grin.

McPie Sat 13-Jul-13 08:31:01

Have been lurking since very early on and have to say you have found some amazing strength in the face of such a horrid situation (twunt should be ashamed of himself but as hes a twunt I doubt he will ever think he is to blame for anything wrong in his life) and I hope it will stay with you forever.
You have a pair of wonderfully balanced dc who are a credit to your parenting skills so little acrobat will be in the best possible hands in your household, where ever you may end up.
Good luck flowers

themidwife Sat 13-Jul-13 08:43:40

Marking my spot!!

BerkshireMum Sat 13-Jul-13 09:07:20

Shameless marking! Good luck - so exciting you amazing lady.

wordyBird Sat 13-Jul-13 09:09:55

I love your title and OP, waves! I do hope you feel more comfortable.

....McPie - hear hear. smile

kalidanger Sat 13-Jul-13 09:13:25

Another lurker popping up to wish you the very best thanks

Yay hope the little acrobat makes their appearance quickly, calmly and at a reasonable hour x.

RNJ3007 Sat 13-Jul-13 09:19:07

Good luck waves I'll be thinking of you. Soon the HG horror will be behind you!x

RalphGnu Sat 13-Jul-13 09:21:40

So excited for acrobat's imminent arrival! You clever, brave, amazing lady, you!

angel1976 Sat 13-Jul-13 09:22:52

Best of luck waves! Your OP sounds so positive! Hope it's a sign of times to come...

Oldestofseven Sat 13-Jul-13 09:29:55

Have been lurking right from the beginning - so pleased that youa are almost there. The very best of luck for the coming weeks- looking forward to hearing about the arrival!

bunchamunchycrunchycarrots Sat 13-Jul-13 10:09:51

Ooh how exciting! Nice positive upbeat start to the introduction of your acrobat to the world. Marking my spot toosmile

Jux Sat 13-Jul-13 10:41:31

Fantastic opening post! So upbeat thanks

SpecialAgentTattooedQueen Sat 13-Jul-13 10:54:20

Just marking my place, So excited for Acrobat to come! He's one kick ass little boy already! grin

ClairesTravellingCircus Sat 13-Jul-13 11:27:38

Delurking to send positive vibes to you and acrobat Waves! You are an amazingly strong woman thanks

LJL69 Sat 13-Jul-13 11:33:51

also marking place. Hooray and looking forward to hearing all about the wee acrobat!! I really think he/she should now be named after one of the gymnastic greats!! Get out the book of Russian names!! Good luck waves

themidwife Sat 13-Jul-13 11:47:24

The big question - has trainee twunt gone yet? angry

I've had an email from trainee twunt saying he has left, i will be home at around 2.30 and will report back definitively then. I got through my set whilst having contractions. Now sitting in a field, looking at the sea whilst the DCs get a bite to eat. DD is loving it here, it is a bike and music festival and she has been taking photos of the bikes on display.

Little acrobat is certainly having an interesting last few days/weeks in the womb. My doula reckons things are definitely happening but will be stop start because of the emotional baggage I have been carrying through the pregnancy. She has written up my birth plan, so I know that she will be a good advocate for me when we get to hospital.

This afternoon i plan to relax. Should be easier to do so if trainee twunt has actually gone smile

SpecialAgentTattooedQueen Sat 13-Jul-13 12:15:43

Wait trainee twunt texted to say he has no intent of even leaving when you demanded?! I want to post a red angry face, but won't if I've 'jumped the twunt'

Just in case I'm right... angry

OOOH so does your Doula think Acrobat will arrive soon or not?

I think he'll arrivee with jazz hands in a bang! (No pun intended)

FairyThunderthighs Sat 13-Jul-13 12:23:19

Hello new thread! Been lurking, wanted to wish you all the best. You're sounding super as always flowers

shiningcadence Sat 13-Jul-13 12:32:40

Sitting in a field looking at the sea sounds a wonderful place to be this afternoon waves.

Well done for getting shot of L1. You are on the way up smile

MrsTomHardy Sat 13-Jul-13 12:48:48

I've read all your previous threads OP.

Good luck....wink

pointythings Sat 13-Jul-13 13:10:12

Yay! <jumps up and down and waves pompoms>

Go, waves!

FrequentFlyerRandomDent Sat 13-Jul-13 13:11:27

Good luck. I do hope L1 is out for good.

GoodtoBetter Sat 13-Jul-13 14:13:41

Hoping wanky lodger has indeed fucked off smile

JaxTellerIsAllMine Sat 13-Jul-13 15:02:22

Hope l1 has gone. I'm hot! Waves. You have come on leaps and bounds. So proud of you

I think acrobat will be here in next couple of weeks and I can't wait to see him. I reckon he'll be the most famous MN baby and loved by all his MN Aunts.

SpecialAgentTattooedQueen Sat 13-Jul-13 15:03:29

Whenever I see L1 I read as 'IT' without my glasses.

Much more deserving name IMO.


waves just de-lurking to say i have followed your story from the hg pages and you are an inspiration!

I think of you often and find myself checking to see if acrobat is here and you have reached the pink castle.

Good luck flowers

<goes back to lurking blush

Oh, it's lovely to see lurkers de-lurking and wishing me and my family well smile

Pleased to announce that WANKY LODGER HAS LEFT. Room is spotless, so at least he had the grace to do that (I think mainly he just wanted his deposit back in full). My home already feels so much better and relaxed. I can breathe again.

We had a ridiculously busy day - after a bite to eat for the DCs at the festival, we decided to go to a nearby beach for a bit so they explored rock pools and had a swim in the sea. I just wandered about relaxing through the contractions. Then we did our instrument collection, drove home (I had to pull over a few times on account of the contractions), unloaded, and I got a load of washing on, checked L1's room, then headed here to give you an update.

About to crash out in bed with DD who is a bit poorly still really.

My doula does think that acrobat will be here in the next few days. I hope so, because having contractions AND vomiting is really not fun. Plus our cooling breeze has disappeared so now it is just super hot here.

She has taken twunt's number, as, following a long conversation with her yesterday, I pretty much reached the conclusion that I may want him there right at the end of giving birth, and it is better that she has the number to contact him with rather than me getting upset in the throes of 10 cm dilation and crowning etc (scaring myself again now....).

Anyway, crash out time for me. L1 has gone, and I want to do a happy dance, but it may bring on acrobat's arrival/cause me to fall over/set off another bout of vomiting. Oh - anyone who ever has full term hyperemesis like me, AVOID the birth ball. Bouncing on it is just about the worst possible activity as the bounciness sets off the vomiting almost instantly (as I discovered when I tried, and subsequently had to clean the thankfully non-carpeted floor of DD's bedroom blush)

Ouch. Must think about golden light, and my tree outside york minster, and breathing away the tension and stress of the past months.

shiningcadence Sat 13-Jul-13 15:58:11

Not long now waves until you'll be free of pain of sickness. And I will do a happy dance on your behalf
<dances waves' happy dance>
I hope you don't mind me saying me this, but please prepared that twunt might let you down during labour. He has shown himself to be unreliable in the past and I know t would be heartbreaking for you if you were to call him ad he didn't turn up sad Just be prepared for anything with him waves, as I'm sure you are.
Best of luck with everything!

shiningcadence Sat 13-Jul-13 15:58:38

Pain and sickness

In terms of twunt, I think it is more me wanting to give him the opportunity to be there? I am pretty sure that I will be ok by myself with my lovely lovely doula, just would feel terrible potentially if I hadn't given twunt the opportunity to be there for the birth of his son....

DD is sound asleep, lucky girl! Hoping to follow her soon, just need a nap. Have taken a couple of paracetamol and lain down immediately in the hope I keep them down.

JaxTellerIsAllMine Sat 13-Jul-13 17:17:00

Twunt doesn't deserve anything from you.

HumphreyCobbler Sat 13-Jul-13 17:19:24

Oh best of luck waves. I have thought of you often since we were on the HG thread.

babyhmummy01 Sat 13-Jul-13 17:50:29

Whoop waves u could be third august baby

Glad lodger has buffered off and I think giving the twunt the option to be there us a huge thing. Just be sure u can take the emotional side of that sweetie.

Good luck and keep posting and pls tell me how u do it, I am desperate for mine to show up.

jax I know he doesn't deserve anything from me, and it is really a just in case thing. I may or may not feel able to share my experience, but it is leaving the option there. I don't want spite or anger to overshadow the experience, so need to keep the option so I don't suffer any regret.

Hi humphrey thanks for saying hello. How are you doing?

I have an ice cream box clean and ready for the placenta, snacks of nuts in case I'm able to eat a little, and figured out how to put some music on my phone so feeling a bit more settled in terms of being prepared now.

And the house feels like home again, almost instantaneous relief now that L1 has gone. It is wonderful.

ArcticBlast Sat 13-Jul-13 18:15:00

delurking to wish you the very best in your brand new chapter of life Waves thanks thanks

Another de-lurker!

You've done...amazing waves. Your kids are so so lucky to have you as their mum and hope the next lucky one arrives as smoothly as possible for you!


MissStrawberry Sat 13-Jul-13 18:23:22

Good luck waves.

I take my hat off to you. You are amazing and an inspiration.

And a bloody Angel for even considering allowing Twunt there when you have your baby.

HumphreyCobbler Sat 13-Jul-13 18:50:01

I am doing really well thank you! I was incredibly lucky in that my sickness stopped.

Glad to hear you are all set. Wow. You are nearly there smile

Jux Sat 13-Jul-13 21:00:13

Next couple of days!!! Wow, Waves, good luck!

(Twunt has had two boys already hasn't he?)

MushroomSoup Sat 13-Jul-13 21:06:09

Another delurker! I've followed you forever and am so excited for you, getting ready to start this new chapter of your life. And I think that you are right to be thinking about the possibility of calling on the fucking wankery cuntbag the Twunt at the birth: I understand where you are coming from. It changes nothing but means that you cannot be seen as unreasonable right from the start.

Of course that doesn't mean he deserves SHOULD be there, only that IMO you are right to CONSIDER it.

God speed to acrobat! Have you his name ready?

Less frequent pains now... Using the opportunity to have a rest. Twunt had 3 sons, his first was still born sad.

I'm so so tired, and really hoping I get some sleep. Meant to be playing tomorrow, but if things don't ease up completely I am cancelling as I don't think I need to be quite so determinedly stubborn to carry on til acrobat is crowning!

ChasedByBees Sat 13-Jul-13 21:25:49

So glad your trainee twunt left!

I'm another one that thinks fully trained twunt doesn't deserve how kind you are to him. I don't think excluding him would be an act of spite and anger, he has removed himself from this situation. The birth is about you getting acrobat out safely. I hope the option is enough to make you feel more comfortable but please don't feel you would be mean if you choose not to contact him. It would not be mean at all.

EccentricElastic Sat 13-Jul-13 21:28:19

waves I've just spent the last couple of hours reading your previous threads to this one, and I've de-lurked as I simply want to wish you a wonderful life with all your wonderful DC's, however you choose to live it.

Your strength of mind and spirit is awesome, and I'm sure will carry you
to wherever you wish to go.

You are an inspiring woman.

Sending you peace and tranquility. flowers

thegreylady Sat 13-Jul-13 21:41:43

Way to go waves-another delurker here wishing you waves of peace and joy with your lovely children flowers

Just re reading this and seen a few x posts. Hi babyhmummy started getting crampy again now so goodness knows what is happening..... Thought I was maybe going to have a night off.

mushroomsoup (yum, I have some homemade in the freezer for when I'm not pregnant and sick) I'm glad you understand where I'm coming from re twunt and the birth. I genuinely have a good heart, and I'd like to think I will be in a space where I feel able to allow twunt to see his son enter the world. I'm giving myself the option, but that really is all it is, an option. I wont feel mean if it turns out that I dont want him there. My key birth plan thing is calm mother, calm birth, calm baby. Small talk banned, lots of lovely music to listen to, and a beautiful tree to retreat to during surges.

oh, and I do have a name sorted, although the middle name is a choice of 2. I thought I couldn't find a name that I'd love as much as the names of my DCs, but turns out I have managed.

Thanks for all the support still.... It makes me smile and feel less overwhelmed to hear so many of you thinking I am doing ok smile

Right, positive sleep vibes needed in case this genuinely is the latent stage of labour and I have hard work looming ahead. At least I put on my pregnant plumber hat and took the kitchen sink and waste pipe apart to give it a thorough clean confused nesting gone crazy again.

ProphetOfDoom Sat 13-Jul-13 22:05:14

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

JaxTellerIsAllMine Sat 13-Jul-13 22:37:44

I was on my phone when I posted earlier, its so hard trying to get a considered point across when you have hot hands!

I do understand you wanting to have an option, just dont want you to feel under any pressure or anyone interrupting your calm birthing plan. smile And the chances of him rolling up and putting his twuntish spin on things would send you to a place you dont need to be in during labour.

I think we all feel very protective toward you now, like a little family of virtual tigers.

wordyBird Sat 13-Jul-13 22:54:17

Yes, definitely a family of virtual tigers - or tigresses. Roar!

Hope you sleep peacefully. Very impressed that you went for a spot of light plumbing as a way of passing the time smile go waves!

SisterMonicaJoan Sat 13-Jul-13 22:56:31

Waves, you sound like a different woman from the one whose first thread I read flowers

Yes, things are still difficult but you picked yourself up, took on loads of advice from other wise MNers and you've survived.

Good luck x

Allalonenow Sat 13-Jul-13 23:23:35

Sweet dreams waves!

PyroclasticFlo Sun 14-Jul-13 08:09:53

Waves I've been following your threads since the word go (may have posted on the first one I think, can't remember!) but just delurking here to wish you and littlenAcrobat a very safe and happy birth experience.

Like everyone else I have marvelled at your strength, courage and dignity, and am so pleased your wanky lodger has left so that your house can be a haven again! Look after yourself and I send a million positive wishes and blessings to help you and your family in every possible way flowers

JaxTellerIsAllMine Sun 14-Jul-13 09:03:32

morning waves, hope your BH have settled down and acrobat hasnt arrived yet, although today is an allocated arrival day. grin

No acrobat yet, well, still one being very active in me, but not yet out confused

I slept (hoorah!) which is good because when DD woke up she was promptly sick. I have my HG sick bowl, and whilst she kind of reached that, it was fairly violent vomming so I now have bedding going through the washing machine.

Just a bit crampy so far today, and will hopefully be spending much of it chilling out with DD. No gig for me - I am being sensible for a change, and planning not to overdo things. Must admit that had DD not been poorly I would probably have risked it, but I wouldn't contemplate dragging her along to it.

I am STILL in 2 minds (maybe more) about twunt and the birth. Thing is, I don't want him there (I don't think) whilst I am in active labour/transition, just maybe present at the hospital, so he can come in for the actual pushing out of baby bit.

That said, I texted him yesterday about the persistent contractions, and after he got a bit arsey (as far as I could infer from the text message - so hard to pick up on things when they aren't spoken) I sent him a link explaining latent v active stage of labour. Not a word since - no how's it goings on sleep wells. So I am feeling a bit angry with him again now, especially as I feel that I didn't so much offer him an olive branch but an olive grove in inviting him to potentially be part of the birth experience.

What a twunt.

WingDefence Sun 14-Jul-13 09:12:54

waves - I've been away from MN and on holiday too so I've jut caught up. So glad to hear the house feels calmer now L1 has upped and left!

Focus on that golden thread!

WingDefence Sun 14-Jul-13 09:14:06

Cross post - what a twunt of a twunt angry

SpanielFace Sun 14-Jul-13 09:25:47

Another lurker here! I've followed your previous threads, and just want to wish you good luck & all the happiness in the world with your new arrival!

SkylerRose Sun 14-Jul-13 10:05:19

Yet another lurker! I've read all the way through and I think you are a fantastic role model to you wonderful dcs and I wish u all the best with the birth of acrobat! grin Twunt is exactly as name describes!!!!

BerylStreep Sun 14-Jul-13 10:11:19

Hey Waves have a good day today Hope DD is better soon. X

shiningcadence Sun 14-Jul-13 10:35:22

Waves, he's such a bastard arse. He's showing no concern AT ALL for you or, more importantly, his little boy. I totally understand you giving your doula his number as a 'just in case' but I think you would be an absolute saint to allow him to be at the birth after everything he's done. You want to feel tranquil and at peace during the birth and I have a feeling that he'd argue/undermine you/stress you out/make it all about him/spout this 'evil waves' nonsense again. I would hate for him to spoil what should be a wonderful experience. He has spoilt so much of your pregnancy so far. He has made your sickness worse by stressing you out repeatedly, this in turn has contributed to your weight loss and consequently acrobat's low weight. IMO he is a disgusting human being. Having said that I DO understand your reasons for wanting his number to hand. Please, just do what is right for YOU (and little acrobat smile)

Jux Sun 14-Jul-13 11:03:56

Waves, I too think you would be a saint to have him there, even just in the late stages.

But, it you giving birth and whatever you want is fair goes.

Oh goodness, it's pretty uncomfortable here in waves land. Breathing nice and deeply. I don't want twunt there, like I said its an olive grove. And I don't ever want my new son to ask why I banned daddy from being there. It's being the bigger person. If it gets to the actual real time, if he is at hospital then I can make a decision about whether or not he is in. But I won't compromise on the birth, calm mum, calm birth, calm baby. If twunt carries on as he is then no way could he possibly be there.

Rambling on and making no sense cos I'm so ouchy. So many clean clothes to put away but not sure I can manage. Wish right now that twunt wasn't a twunt and I actually had someone here to rub my back and do the household stuff and help look after DD. flipping crying again now....

BerylStreep Sun 14-Jul-13 11:14:35

Waves you are one strong lady.

ProphetOfDoom Sun 14-Jul-13 11:16:36

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

ChasedByBees Sun 14-Jul-13 11:19:42

Thinking of you x

AndMiffyWentToSleep Sun 14-Jul-13 11:25:36

Hey Waves, you can do it!

oldwomaninashoe Sun 14-Jul-13 11:25:44

standing by with bated breath Waves, waiting for the arrival of acrobat.
Just go with the flow, and do what feels right for you at the time.
Thinking of you x

bugsaway Sun 14-Jul-13 11:30:42

getting exciting now! youve handled so much this pregnancy - you know now you dont need twunt!

its clear hes not interested ... too much of a child

good luck with the birth dear

BadgerFace Sun 14-Jul-13 11:44:00

Oh Waves, it is so exciting and you are amazing!! Good luck!!

And take back the olive grove if you want to. Twunt doesn't deserve it and acrobat will never need to ask why daddy wasn't allowed at the birth, he will know from growing up, without anything being said, that daddy didn't deserve to be.

MissStrawberry Sun 14-Jul-13 11:53:04


This feels ridiculous to say but which would hurt or upset you more - doing the "right thing" as you see it but Twunt spoils the occasion or not having him there (as he has shown yet again he is a prick) and feeling guilty for whatever reason including for your son.

Are the children old enough to put the clothes away?

Are there any friends you can ask to help for even half an hour? I know if I had only ever said hello to you I would be honoured to be asked to help at this special time.

Have you found and MNters local to you?

Thanks for the encouragement. I'm curled up in my relatively cool bedroom having at least sorted the clothes into piles. DS will put his away, DD still clutching a sick bowl so won't be asking her to help, bless her. Definitely having more and more strong cramps/contractions but realistically this could be on/off for a few days (or even weeks but I really hope not)

No local mumsnetters found, and don't really want to ask people round given that DD might have a tummy bug.

And I just don't know, missStrawberry about twunt and the birth. With my other 2 I know I very much retreated into myself and pretty much anyone could have been there and I wouldn't have known. I hope that takes the decision away from me, that I become so caught up with the process that he doesn't factor on the radar and is therefore not called.

I think I need a warm bath. Daft isn't it, in this heat!

Hi Waves, keep breathing in that golden light, you're doing fantastically well! Thinking of you lots. flowers

clam Sun 14-Jul-13 12:37:51

Can I just say that never once in his soon-to-be-17 years on the planet, has my ds ever asked who was in the delivery room at his birth. I would imagine that by the time he's old enough even to wonder, he'll have a pretty good idea of what his father's like to not need to ask.

waves my labour with DC3 was very stop start from the Friday night until the Tuesday night she was born. Apparently IRS very common with 3rd births dye to muscle laxity so CX go a bit wonky. How's the HG doing? I was full term HG with all 3 and labour was a welcome relief from the sickness. As soon as that placenta is delivered your sickness will be gone, then the hunger starts grin. Good luck with everything and just decide about twunt at the time. Your feelings will guide you.

Bloody phone changing everything!

Swear swear swear. Twunt just sent me the most nasty text. What a prick to do that knowing I'm in latent phase/stop start labour. Starting to think that he is the absolute last person I want anywhere near me, not just for this giving birth malarkey but ever again in my entire life. What sort of person sends a nasty text to a woman in labour who has said she is struggling with a sick daughter????

Feel free to get all sweary on my behalf sad

I can't block his number - quick google search suggests I would need to jailbreak my phone or something to enable that. And I'm bloody crying again. Other than a baby, there is nothing left to come out of me now what with the vomiting and tears.

wordyBird Sun 14-Jul-13 13:37:39

((Hug))) sorry waves.
He is acting true to form, so maybe better now than later?
He won't change, he will only continue to anger and disappoint you. You deserve some peace from this. Delete his texts on receipt, that might be second best to blocking.

Take care of yourself brew

SpecialAgentTattooedQueen Sun 14-Jul-13 13:38:52

Oh God Waves. sad >huge, huge, gentle hugs<

DON'T have him at the birth. Truly, I know you're hormonal but no one asks who was present at their birth. Acrobat wouldn't ask if you needed stitches, he won't care who was there. This needs to be about you, your needs/desires. It's about you and YOUR family. Not him. He isn't a part of your family any more. This is your moment and you have worked amazingly hard for it!!!

What did the [can't think of a nasty enough term] say?? >>hugs<<

Sooo angry

AndMiffyWentToSleep Sun 14-Jul-13 13:50:01

Oh Waves, how anyone can be that awful is beyond me! At least that should stop any feelings of guilt if you decide not to let him be at the birth. Try and forget about him for now - focus on you and DD for the time being.

Out of context it doesn't sound so bad, he kept on at me yesterday about why did I think this was actual contractions and early labour. (3rd baby, i do know what is going on ffs) so I sent him link about latent stage after he was demanding to know when the baby was actually going to arr

bugsaway Sun 14-Jul-13 13:57:23

the man is a total loser and once you have your little baby, I am sure he will act again in an idiotic fashion. So much so waves when you do finally break from him completely you simply wont look back!! This time will come and you will wonder wh you gave the arse so much head space!

Go gentle on yourself lovely x breath x

forget ALL about him from now ...

Arrive (pressed post by mistake)

No queries about how I am, heard nothing from him til mid morning when he sent How's it going.

I told him pains back very much uncomfortable and juggling that with very poorly DD.

Again heard nothing until he sent me one saying so is the baby coming today. I said "I don't know, I have no idea and to be honest I'm pretty upset that you have questioned my integrity re me being in latent labour, aren't offering me any support at all, and don't seem to care that I am in pain and discomfort.

This triggered nasty text where he sent:

Oh so it's back to attack [twunts name] mode is it? Some things and some people never change.

Maybe it's not even that bad, but it feels nasty. He's basically saying I'm a bitch for attacking him when from my side I am in pain and trying to keep up with the house and look after a sick child.

I'm just overreacting I suppose but still crying about it. I think it was a mean thing to do, and proves he doesn't actually give a shit about anyone apart from himself.

ProphetOfDoom Sun 14-Jul-13 13:59:40

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

SpecialAgentTattooedQueen Sun 14-Jul-13 14:05:14

No, you're NOT overacting and you DIDN'T attack him! You basically just asked him about his disinterest, and he turned it around and got nasty because you dared to question him. (Kinda his pattern, aye?)

Just focus on your health and your amazing children. Focus on how excited you are for Acrobat to be kicking at your arms instead of womb! grin

Prepare yourself and take care of yourself. We're ALL cheering you and your family on. We ARE MN aunts of course. wink

Hoping DD feels better soon, and Acrobat arrives sooner rather than later as he seems to be announcing his formal entry! flowers

TiredFeet Sun 14-Jul-13 14:09:49

oh waves nearly there now! I don't think you would be a bad person at all if you decided no more contact with twunt until acrobat is here. but I also understand you urge to keep giving him chances

I will be thinking of you!!! hope little Acrobat does arrive soon

MissStrawberry Sun 14-Jul-13 14:28:05

" I hope that takes the decision away from me, that I become so caught up with the process that he doesn't factor on the radar and is therefore not called. "

And there is your answer. You are hoping you are caught up in the amazing thing you have to do that he doesn't come into your head. Decision madesmile

IAmNotAMindReader Sun 14-Jul-13 14:29:30

Unfortunately waves Twunt will make every situation he is involved in about him. Once this child is here he will also make it all about him. His child, his rights etc. When as you know its the child who has the right to the relationships if it is in their best interests, not the parents right to have a relationship with the child at all costs and on their terms only.

Do whatever you feel most comfortable doing with regards the birth as no matter which route you pick will be wrong in his eyes. He will be the wounded party for being left out, or he'll try to demand things go his way with his child in the delivery room.

He doesn't care about you or his child atm so its all fair game to use to gain superiority. He may come to bond with acrobat later, but that will always come second to his need to be the centre of his own universe.

Show acrobat a better way to be and let Twunts actions speak for themselves.

MissStrawberry Sun 14-Jul-13 14:33:00

I have now read your posts after the one I quoted above and my blood is boiling for you.

Him saying you are attacking him is his oh shit she isn't rolling over like she is meant to so I have to try something else tack.

I very much doubt there is ever going to be anything coming from him via a text that you need to read so why not just delete everything he sends you without reading it if you can't block the fucking prick.

Bullies - which is what he is - pick on people because they are so pathetic they need to make someone else feel even worse than they do.
Just remember he is worse than anything you would ever find in a rubbish tip and just stop stop stop thinking about him and giving him anymore head space.

He is nothing. He is worth nothing. He brings nothing to your life. He really is the worst person I have come across in a long time (and I know some terrible people.)

AndMiffyWentToSleep Sun 14-Jul-13 14:40:12

Maybe it would help if you tried to stop expecting him to care, ask how you/acrobat are, or just even be civil (or caring that he doesn't)?
He's not going to change so figuring out how to stop his words and actions hurting you is the only thing to do.
But I realise how bloody easy it is to suggest this and how bloody hard it would be to do it!

McPie Sun 14-Jul-13 14:55:00

I agree with MissStrawberry delete every text that he sends you unread from now untill after acrobat arrives. You have your Doula to contact him when little one is on his way so do not enter into any form of conversation with this waste of space at the moment. Look after yourself and your dc as thats what matters at the moment.

Allalonenow Sun 14-Jul-13 16:11:43

The MN mantra of "ignore ignore and then ignore some more" will help you to find some calm and peace in these last few days waves. You and your baby have been through so much, and you both need to build your reserves for the birth.

The blowing hot and cold that your Ex is doing, is to keep you vulnerable and dancing to his tune, so first he sends lovely presents and you hope he cares; then he sends evil hurtful texts blaming you for his inadequacies. Of course now it all hurts so much more, because you had believed he cared. He will repeat this cycle while you are responding.

Try to rest, listen to lovely music, push him to the back of your mind. Your children sound wonderful, wrap yourself up in their love.

Hope your DD is feeling better soon, take care.

JaxTellerIsAllMine Sun 14-Jul-13 16:24:11

He's a complete and utter wanker from wankeville. Disengage from him again. He can only hurt you if you care. Learning not to rise to his tantrums is another life skill for you to master on your journey.

Music, warm bath & calm for you is needed. Not mr allaboutme.

Fiderer Sun 14-Jul-13 16:54:15

I've just read this and all your other posts. You sound so lovely and so loving and he sounds like a selfish arsehead.

Wanting to be the bigger person, wanting to have your son's dad there at the birth for your son's sake - they are laudable and very understandable feelings.

I'm glad for you that you have a good doula and a good family support worker because I think however much you may also hope that the birth will turn your ex back the way he was, as you have often put it, it won't. What you and your son and your other children need and deserve is "calm mum, calm birth, calm baby".

And if you let him in again, he'll fuck with your head again and none of you deserve that.


AgathaF Sun 14-Jul-13 16:57:01

Please don't invite him there for the birth. He should not be near you when you are in that most vulnerable of places. Your baby should be born into a happy, loving and relaxed environment if possible. You and your doula have worked hard to ensure that is what will happen. Why ruin it by having that wanker there?

ProphetOfDoom Sun 14-Jul-13 17:10:19

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Jux Sun 14-Jul-13 17:24:56

He is a vile, vile man. What he's just done must remind you of how careless about you he is, what a selfish twunt he is, what a horrible influence he is.

Stupid too.

Waves, so sorry. thanks for you. You are worth so much more than he is.

pointythings Sun 14-Jul-13 17:35:19

Bloody hell, waves! Obviously you should not respond to his text, and you should not allow him at the birth either,but my response to such a text would consist of two words, the second of which would be 'off'.

Your Acrobat will be better off without this man in his life, limit his presences as much as you can. Am thinking of you.

LucyTheValiant Sun 14-Jul-13 17:40:03

Yes, some things and people never change, like him. You have shown yourself throughout to be the better person in all this, you have done NOTHING wrong and he has done EVERYTHING wrong. It's not you who needs to change, it's him. But he's a twunt, so he won't, and your little Acrobat is going to have a lovely life and a lovely family with you and your delightful DCs. Twunt should be bloody grateful you even told him about the contractions, many people wouldn't even have done that. You're thinking of Acrobat and Twunt is thinking of himself. Therefore, Waves>Twunt. (That's basically maths, and you can't argue with maths.)

Thinking of you here and hoping for a speedy and easy labour for you very very soon!


The DCs had super noodles for tea blush

I am in a lot of pain now, with contractions but also now like a permanent lower back kidney type pain. Have asked them to do the dishes but they are being a bit grumpy.

Keep crying and not sure if it is the pain or twunt or just general emotional overwroughtness. I still have to make packed lunches and put the bedding back on my bed but I genuinely don't think I can.

I did reply to twunt. I said "you are an utter twat for sending that text".

I hope he infers from that that he is uninvited from any part of the birth process, that I have seen his most recent words and gestures for the lies they are and seen the extent of his utter self consumption, selfishness and deceit.

I am going to download one more song to my phone for my labour playlist inspired by your name lucy (assuming it is from Narnia?) me and my dad loved reading and afterwards watching it, and now the DCs and I love reading the books and reading the bbc t series. I'm hoping to find the theme tune.

This hurts ever such a lot....

MissStrawberry Sun 14-Jul-13 18:05:19


<sends bed making fairy>

Tell your kids they need to help Mummy. I just was totally disrespected by my son so feel free to ignore that crap piece of advice.

AndMiffyWentToSleep Sun 14-Jul-13 18:06:49

The hurting means things are happening - which means progress!
(I'm trying to turn it into a positive!)
You can do it, waves!

LucyTheValiant Sun 14-Jul-13 18:12:26

It is indeed from Narnia smile I'm glad it will on your playlist!

Super noodles are the dinner of champions. Can you send a note with the DC to school tomorrow saying your labour is imminent and can they have school dinners for the day? The school will definitely have enough food to feed two extra mouths, and I'm sure they'll understand! Then it's just the bed, and you can get the DC to do the pillow cases and duvet while you do the sheet. My brothers and I used to have great fun 'helping' in that way, we'd button one person into the duvet cover, wrap them up, and they'd have to untangle themselves and get out. (Probably not very safe so maybe don't encourage that!)

captainmummy Sun 14-Jul-13 18:40:55

Good luck waves - and well done on sending that reply! He shouldn't be anywhere near you for the forthcoming. He;ll just bring stress.

whitesugar Sun 14-Jul-13 18:41:20

I hope everything goes well for you and that horrible sickness goes away, 9 months of it, you are a Trojan. Just make sure that you don't feel like you should let him attend the birth if deep down you dont want him there. When I had DC 14 years ago I was separated from abusive EXH. I thought he should be present at the birth even though he was useless and absent for most of pregnancy. When he ever came by it was all about him and he generally left after making me feel utterly crap. I didn't want him there for me but thought like you that my son should have him there despite everything.

I don't dwell on it these days but it was a very big mistake having him in the labour room. I gave birth to the loveliest little boy in record quick time so always have that memory. However to this day when conversations come around amongst friends about labour experiences I remember him being an entitled prick chatting away to the midwives like he was the best dad in the world & holding the baby looking like he was a loving attentive dad. Nothing could be further from the truth. He still is a totally selfish prick to this day & DCS even accept that fact now that they are 16 and 14.

I honestly don't lose sleep about it at all but this thread reminds me of the regret that I had allowed him to be there and contaminate a completely joyous moment for me seeing my gorgeous baby. I know I am biased but he was drop dead gorgeous. Still is - when he is asleep! DS has never enquired whether his father was present or not. Best of luck, lots of mums encouraging you from afar.

CurlyFox Sun 14-Jul-13 19:22:38

Good luck again Waves you are an inspirational woman. No negative thoughts or people just positive thoughts from us mumsnetters

themidwife Sun 14-Jul-13 19:26:42

Good luck sweetheart - it does sound like Pre labour but also a bus suspiciously like a UTI brewing - I'd advise you to take an MSU up to the hospital or GP in the morning just in case.

Oh and by the way - he is an utter utter bastard - there I've said it!! angryangry

JaxTellerIsAllMine Sun 14-Jul-13 19:58:26

oh - so wish i was closer so I could make the DC their pack lunch and make your bed for you. Any chance your nice lodger would give you a hand.

I second MSU for hospital - and any chance you are having back labour? I had never heard of it until my friend had her contractions that way!

Take it easy, hope DD is feeling better, nothing wrong with super noodles now and again.

And again, twunt is a bastard, Ive said it previously, but he is the biggest fucker on earth. angry

Thank you everyone for the general encouragement and positive thoughts being sent this way smile

themidwife I am due up at hospital as usual first thing tomorrow, so will take a MSU with me and see what they say.

whitesugar thank you for sharing your experience. It made me realise that I cannot imagine anything WORSE than twunt playing the doting dad in the delivery suite, and making me feel even worse. I don't owe him anything at all so I think I am going to stand my ground and ensure that he is not there to detract from the process, and spoil my memories.

Going to see if a warm bath helps now. Earlier on I went in the (deep) paddling pool with the DCs - they have an inflatable ring thing and so even though I am not allowed to get my PICC line wet, I decided to risk it and sat in it. The water was really quite chilly and I laughed and laughed as DS pulled me round in the ring. He said

"I haven't heard you laugh in ages mummy"

It's true sad I have simply been surviving for months and months, and trying to make sure they are happy and having fun, but I haven't at all been having fun. They were both so pleased to see me smiling and hear me laughing, although they were not so happy that I didn't stay in long, but I had to try to be a bit sensible re the line.

I hope that I find my laugh again on a more regular basis soon.

JaxTeller - cross posted with you (it is taking AGES to type messages through the owwwing) Will def take the MSU, and maybe just ask them to have a general look and see what they reckon is going on.

DS helped with my bed, now going to try packed lunches, and give up and wait til the morning if it is too much effort!

perfectstorm Sun 14-Jul-13 20:11:10

Some things and some people never change.

No, and he's still a piece of human filth who pollutes everything and everyone he encounters. (Yeah twunt, that's you. We all know you're reading this, because you're a creepy little clammy-handed weirdo, and have absolutely no shame.)

I had a 3 day latent stage, Waves, and on the plus side it can make labour a lot easier when it becomes more intense, because the cervix has thinned so much by all these early contractions. Do you have a TENS machine, as I found it helped? And the other - rather gross! - thing: my DS was really low down and peeing started to really hurt as a result, and I found getting on all fours and peeing over an old ice cream tub meant he dropped into the bump, away from my bladder - and so it was painless. I don't know if that's an issue for you or not, but I thought I'd say as the relief of being able to pee painlessly was incredible!

I'd be really wary about allowing him anywhere near the birth, if you look at how he's been when you were at your most vulnerable in the past. He's a leech, and like all parasites will attach himself by all and any means he can find, now he's learned he has few rights but serious monetary obligations. And there are few times a woman is more vulnerable.

Acrobat is almost here - so exciting!

ProphetOfDoom Sun 14-Jul-13 20:17:10

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

vole3 Sun 14-Jul-13 20:20:39

You are an amazing lady, about to do an amazing thing.
Acrobat is one lucky little boy to have you, DD and DS ( not to mention the hundreds of mumsnet aunties lurking smile )

Hey Waves! Sending all good wishes for the happy, calm and safe arrival in the world of your dear little acrobat.

If you want a calm labour, then do not even entertain the idea of having that man with you. He always upsets you and he will prevent the calm you so wish for...

He won't be at the birth because you are not together anymore. Simple. Nothing to do with banning him.

Callmecordelia Sun 14-Jul-13 20:56:23

Delurking to say that I think you have done marvellously, and best of luck.

whitesugar Sun 14-Jul-13 20:58:58

It's a pleasure to share experience, it's the first time I ever have told anyone. You will get hours of laughs when that little boy arrives & thinks you are the best thing since sliced bread, which you are. He will bring lots of laughs to your DCS, they will adore him & will be a great help to you. You are very lucky.

auntpetunia Sun 14-Jul-13 21:04:39

You know that whitesugar is right and he will be there flirting with the midwives and wanting his picture taken for Facebook, he might even think he has the right to comment on the name. Don't invite him he's still a bastard he'll always be a bastard and gorgeous little acrobat doesn't need him anywhere near him in the early part of his life …he just needs his amazing mum and doting big brother and sister.

Good luck you amazing woman.

GaryBuseysTeeth Sun 14-Jul-13 21:06:03

Your children always come across as lovely (even when you talk about them being grumpy!)...may their memories of Summer '13 be happy, full of laughter & squishy cuddles with Acrobat flowers

So, so glad L1 is out of your life, so sorry that twunt is being a twunt. I know it's the 'right' thing to do to extend the olive branch & offer him being at the birth but I'm glad you're not going to have him there. He threw that chance away when he started all this mess.

Hope the bath has helped, <pompoms> agogo here! x

perfectstorm Sun 14-Jul-13 21:08:14

You know, I'm properly excited for you? Your gorgeous little baby is almost here!

DHtotalnob Sun 14-Jul-13 21:39:40

Bit embarrassed to admit I'm a long time lurker de-lurking..... but I've followed for ages and been inspired every step.
On the birth thing: partners are there to support you. If you don't need that support, then fuck him. You're not putting on a private performance, so now is the time to do things exactly how you want too.

(But can I be very a bit excited??)

LiveItUp Sun 14-Jul-13 22:19:53

Sounds like you'll soon be holding acrobat in your arms. Really excited for you grin. Thinking of you and hope all goes well. x

CounselorTroi Sun 14-Jul-13 22:22:10

another thinking don't have him there. I'd would be ALL about him, the knobhead, and worse he'd probably drag along the two not so pleasant kids. So no. It's all about waves and acrobat right now.

CounselorTroi Sun 14-Jul-13 22:22:57

DHtotalnob best name ever lol

Orianne Sun 14-Jul-13 22:38:13

Go on Waves, you can do this.

babyhmummy01 Sun 14-Jul-13 22:42:31

think he made your decision for you huni! ignore the twunt and just tell him when acrobat arrives.

springytato Sun 14-Jul-13 22:48:18

oh yes, he'd put on a great show of being the most adorable husband and father - also devilishly attractive to the nurses (t-shirt! ex-rodent stretched out on ds's bed, sighed, and joked with the nurses when ds was taken down for heart surgery.) They're all the same! don't think he will be bashful or human about it - he is inhuman.

thinking of you darling woman. Just think, you'll have the double joy of acrobat in your arms and the HG gone! Couldn't get better than that! smile smile

eagerbeagle Sun 14-Jul-13 23:01:30

Delurking too to say you are amazing and inspiring and sending you a hand squeeze.

BerylStreep Sun 14-Jul-13 23:41:52

Night waves. Hoping you have a peaceful and painless night.

Another one hoping that your calm isn't shattered by twunt. I wonder if there isn't a large part of you that still hopes that he cares about you, and when he makes it clear he doesn't care, it hurts as deeply as it first did. Totally understandable, but that hope is what makes you so vulnerable to him hurting you again and again.

Anyhow, now is the time to focus on the imminent arrival of Acrobat. You know when you are sitting under that tree in York? Look around you, and you will see the assembled strength and love of MNers in the background. X

Allalonenow Mon 15-Jul-13 00:11:25

Hope you get some peace and rest tonight waves.

tightfortime Mon 15-Jul-13 00:22:03

Delurking after a few posts, but plenty of following, to wish you a speedy and safe delivery.

Generations of men have bonded with babies having not been there at the birth. You do it YOUR WAY. Fuck him.

You have been dignified, amazing and a superstar throughout. I predict a lot more laughing soon for those lovely DCs of yours. And you.

The viper aunts are all waving pom poms and excited to hear you news.

Loads and loads of vomit-free hugs x

DonkeysDontRideBicycles Mon 15-Jul-13 00:49:28

Hope you'll be back to laughing again waves on a regular basis. Your DCs are great and soon they'll have a new playmate. Take it easy you have nearly completed 9 months and it's been far from ideal but you have coped fantastically. Tons of positive vibes flying your way from every MN friend and well-wisher.

Mixxy Mon 15-Jul-13 02:26:46

delurks I have a feeling Acrobat will be here soon too. Wishing you a pain and care free delivery, waves.

Guerrillacrochet Mon 15-Jul-13 05:41:11

from IAmNotAMindReader Unfortunately waves Twunt will make every situation he is involved in about him.
Waves I'm delurking on this thread to say how brilliantly you're handling everything. I really hope the birth goes well.

Tortoiseonthehalfshell Mon 15-Jul-13 06:02:30

Hi Waves! I have to come and register on your new thread, because it sounds like it's basically an extended live birth thread by now. How exciting! Just think, you are days at MOST from the end of this awful horrible vomiting. Oh, yeah, and there'll be a freshly baked new baby too.

Cheering you on from the other side of the world, girl.

ClairesTravellingCircus Mon 15-Jul-13 07:57:55

Hello waves, hope things are progressing nicely and you're having the calm labour, calm birth you wanted. Thinking of you and Acrobatthanks

MissStrawberry Mon 15-Jul-13 08:08:20

Morning Waves

Hope you slept well and when you wake you had Baby Acrobat feeding contentedly winkgrin.

MissStrawberry Mon 15-Jul-13 08:08:43

woke, not wake.

Listmaker Mon 15-Jul-13 08:23:28

De-lurking again to say you're still being amazing! Hope you managed some sleep and hope the birth goes well when it happens. Hope you are laughing lots more soon I really do.

Well nothing happened but woken again to contractions. This could be the longest latent phase ever (or a uti)

My doula warned me this was likely because of the emotional stress. And beryl you have hit the nail on the head with respect to my still having hope that twunt would actually care about me. His letter said he did. I also cried a bit when i read your words about my tree in York.

I promise that all of you wonderful, wonderful people will be there. When I look up from my book I will see people walking by, smiling, and maybe giving a quiet wave, to wish me well with the final stages of my journey to meeting Acrobat.

I am so grateful for all of the support you have all been giving me. Off to hospital soon for regular appointment but will speak to them about the pain and contractions and see if anyone can work out what is going on.

Tortoiseonthehalfshell Mon 15-Jul-13 08:28:39

A friend of mine recently had a labour like this with her third,*waves*, with about ten days of prodomal labour. And then the active stage was about three hours start to finish - home birth, 10.5 lb baby, no tearing. Your body is doing some incredibly important work right now, it knows its stuff and all of these contractions are paving the way.

Alwayscheerful Mon 15-Jul-13 08:29:01

De lurking to wish you and baby waves well.

AndMiffyWentToSleep Mon 15-Jul-13 08:48:16

Hoping this doesn't go on for 10 days, waves!
Oh and if you look up from your book and see someone with a yellow balloon waving at you, that's me!

springytato Mon 15-Jul-13 09:08:57

What tortoise said is so true - your body is paving the way. In a way I am relieved you were able to sleep last night - your body getting some strength.

thinking of you dear waves and cheering you on xxx

Cluffyflump Mon 15-Jul-13 09:19:34

Good luck waves thanks

themidwife Mon 15-Jul-13 09:20:31

Hope it goes ok, take an MSU & mention the kidney area pain honey.

Of course you wish he cared - he promised the world & then cruelly took it away (blaming you in the process!) You are in a vulnerable position needing care & loving support. I'm glad we help a bit.

MinnieBar Mon 15-Jul-13 09:49:12

<waves crochet hook at waves>

Hi all, I'm having to hang around here at hospital for a while as they can't find acrobats head and are now muttering about possible breech position. So waiting for the on call obstetrician to finish theatre then she will be up to probably rescan me again. Quite a lot of pain, and would rather be at home, but there we go.

Twunt texted and stated he was drawing a line under yesterday's communications. It is still all about him, he doesn't give an actual shit about me so I wish he'd leave me alone now. Who does he think he is to say that HE is drawing a line when HE is the one being so horrible to the person he originally professed to love, then recently wrote a letter being all apologetic? And knowing I've been dealing with sick daughter and pains. Fed up.

EccentricElastic Mon 15-Jul-13 10:31:01

Morning Waves I was out away from all modern technology yesterday, but was thinking about you whilst riding my bike over the Durham Dales to Hadrians wall and beyond, and hopefully sending you all the beauty that I could see there all around me .

Stay strong you amazing woman you! flowers

Jux Mon 15-Jul-13 10:33:39

Ignore ignore ignore. It's so hard not to let his crap get under your skin. Can you temporarily block his number so you don't keep getting jolts from him now? He just keeps jogging you out of the hard-won equilibrium you achieve.

Good luck with the obstetrician. Hope they don't take too long! Don't they know Waves and Acrobat are very important people ? wink

Good luck Waves. Hope acrobat is in the correct position and things get going soon. thanks

ClairesTravellingCircus Mon 15-Jul-13 10:54:41

Hope you get seen soon and Acrobat's in right position.
Stay strong, try not to let twunt get to you (I know easier said than done), he doesn't deserve a millisecond of your thoughts xx

DonkeysDontRideBicycles Mon 15-Jul-13 11:03:22

Monday's child is fair of face and Rembrandt was born 407 years' ago. Hope you are being looked after, waves.

JaxTellerIsAllMine Mon 15-Jul-13 11:13:59

Hi waves. Hope acrobat is head down thumbs up.

Well, the consultant got delayed in theatre so they sent me home so I can go to DD's sports day, and they will call me back up a bit later. I will update when I know what the score is.

Twunt kept texting me, but seems to have accepted that I actually want him to piss off now, given his last text. I think the man is devoid of any normal human moral compass and is off the spectrum in terms of normal emotional responses. Quite angry and trying to shelve all that so I can focus on my DCs and acrobat. And if he is still reading this - yep, you completely fucked up. I was on the verge of thinking that there was a chance, but your complete inability to be anything other than a selfish, entitled prick, who doesn't actually care about anyone else has well and truly come to the fore, and I won't be falling for it again.

Have some YAY news though - the clothes I got from the vouchers arrived today. I am going to quickly name tag the uniform bits, and can't wait to see the DCs' faces when they see the little bits I got them for the summer. Couple of nice things for acrobat and for me too. I really don't know when I last had a treat, so it is definitely a smiley point in my day.

SpecialAgentTattooedQueen Mon 15-Jul-13 12:46:58

OOh yay for the vouchers Waves!! grin Lucky duck, you spoil your kiddies rotten with them!

So glad you treated yourself. God knows if anyone deserves to the world's largest _ < [insert food that won't make you feel sick] there, it's you darling! flowers

What on earth was Twunt texting? confused He told you to 'draw a line,' so...Uhm.. You did? By not texting him back? hmm God he's a weirdo. And a huge control freak clearly!

When twee Acrobat arrives, can we have at least one temporary photo? >Huge sad puppy wanting a home eyes<

themidwife Mon 15-Jul-13 12:55:18

Yes Mr arsehole Waves - if you are reading this - the whole of mumsnet think you should piss off!

Glad you had a treat waves - you certainly deserve it! thanks

SpecialAgentTattooedQueen Mon 15-Jul-13 12:58:23

Cheerful wave to The Twunt

Just so you know Twunt, this thread can be shared on FB, twitter and copy/pasted anywhere... There are already American/Australian posters who despise you.

Congratulations loser. You're infamous. You earned it alll by yourself too buddy! smile

AgathaF Mon 15-Jul-13 13:01:31

Ah, so pleased you got some nice stuff for the DC, Acrobat and especially for you.

Hopefully all will be well with acrobats position - might just be that his head is so deep in your pelvis now that they are struggling to get a good image, therefore can't conclusively say he is head down. Would explain all the contractions you have been having too.

Try to put all thoughts of Twunt out of your mind for a while, at least until acrobat is here, if you can. He is not worth the mental effort involved in keep getting upset or angry or wistful. He is just a nobber that you had the misfortune to get involved with (on account of his lying, manipulating personality). Your life and that of your children can proceed with minimal contact with the idiot, and hopefully at some point in the future, you will meet someone deserving of your love.

MissStrawberry Mon 15-Jul-13 13:50:40

Go Waves! Go Waves!

Sorry, just wanted to say that.

Jux Mon 15-Jul-13 13:51:23

Hey there Mr Twunt. You are one of the most despicable human beings I have ever come across - rl, forums, anywhere. You can now fuck the fuck off to the far side of fuck, and when you get there you can fuck off some more.

Jux Mon 15-Jul-13 13:52:20

Yay for sports day! Hope you enjoy it, waves, and your lovely dd has fun in the sun thanks

MustafaCake Mon 15-Jul-13 14:03:00

Just de-lurking to wish you all the very best for the birth.

Sending good vibes your way (and a plague to your Ex)


MrsDeVere Mon 15-Jul-13 14:07:46

I have just read your threads.
Bloody nora waves.
You are awesome.
And that is not something I say often.

Adding my good vibes and admiration for the way you have dealt with everything thrown at you.

I can't wait to hear your baby news.

BoreOfWhabylon Mon 15-Jul-13 14:32:12


What MrsDeVere said!

<raises two fingers to Twunt>

PyroclasticFlo Mon 15-Jul-13 14:44:09

Sending you lots of love and healing vibes waves (and joins the throng sticking two fingers up at Twunt).

I can't believe the front of the man, he really is astonishingly stupid, cruel and selfish. Keep him as far away from yourself and Acrobat and every part of the birth experience (and beyond) as you possibly can, Waves, he is poison. And such a twat that he can't even see it.

Hope things get moving on the labour at the most perfect and convenient time possible, and that all goes well flowers

Thumbwitch Mon 15-Jul-13 14:45:09

Hi Waves! Have been away for a long weekend so missed all the weekend drama but in a nutshell:
Hurrah for L1 leaving, and having the decency to clean his room properly.
Hurrah for good music and sports days
Hope the labour is reaching an end point very soon for your sake; c'mon Acrobat, time to give your mummy a break and make an appearance!

I am glad that whitesugar wrote what she did about her own experience because that's pretty much what I wanted to type to you when I read you were thinking of maybe having the arsewipe there for the last bit of the birth.
For one thing, he would probably have let you down anyway; but even if he had shown up, it would have doubtless have spoilt the moment for you. He would have evinced no care for you at all, and he might have done the "doting dad" thing but it would have excluded you and made you feel like shit. I suspect that there was a teeny bit of you thinking "But he'll be so overcome by the wonder of the new baby that he'll start being the man I thought he truly was again" - am I right?

But since he's been an utter twatface again since, my words aren't really needed, I'm pontificating for no good reason grin except maybe for you to take on board in case you have another hiccup in your resolve.

Hope you manage to get through the whole sports day!

PedantMarina Mon 15-Jul-13 14:57:27

De-lurking (and a small-ish name change since I first started following your threads).

Go Waves!
C'mon Acrobat!

Love and hugs to DC and DS, those stars of yours.

JaxTellerIsAllMine Mon 15-Jul-13 17:11:05

jux the far side of fuck isnt nearly far enough for twunt to go!

waves Im sure I posted a message earlier - from phone, so no idea where it may have gone...

hope sports day is ok, stay in the shade if possible.

Also hope you get to see consultant today.

Thinking of you.

Sports day was fine, DD isn't the fastest but she grinned throughout and had a lovely time. I escaped home after her races to get on with labelling the new uniform, it was so so hot.

Have just seen consultant and its great news. No breech baby, quite the opposite. Head is so far down into my pelvis it can't be felt at all by external palpation or something... I assume this is good regarding the potential arrival? He also has enormous feet (may have misheard but I think she said 8cm!) so maybe acrobat will have a second job as a circus clown. Now waiting for my notes then off back home to see whether these niggles and pains are going to do anything anytime soon. So longing to give acrobat a cuddle and to enjoy a day without being sick!

Pollydon Mon 15-Jul-13 18:05:06

Ooh, sending positive vibes to you and Acrobat,Waves flowers

pointythings Mon 15-Jul-13 18:05:15

<Waves at waves>

<sticks two fingers up at Twunt>

DonkeysDontRideBicycles Mon 15-Jul-13 18:05:59

That's good news waves about Acrobat's position! (Clever Agatha).

Everything set and am keeping an eye on this thread smile.

AgathaF Mon 15-Jul-13 18:15:52

Great news about acrobat's position.

I predict that when labour starts properly for you waves, it will be pretty speedy.

AgathaF Mon 15-Jul-13 18:16:44

Thank you Donkeys grin.

CurlyFox Mon 15-Jul-13 18:26:30

Ooohhh so excited! Come on Acrobat!

JaxTellerIsAllMine Mon 15-Jul-13 19:19:19

I did wonder if Acrobat was so far down he was ready to pop out to say hello, I seem to remember my DS doing similar years ago, its all a bit hazy now. grin

Waves, I dont think it will be too long before your little acrobat makes his arrival. I am so excited for you it is ridiculous. Hope your DC and you all enjoy your treats. Well deserved.

All finished for the day I think....nothing left to do that has to be done, so I might have a warm bath and try to relax a bit.

Suddenly feeling a little sad as I remembered that it's my first wedding anniversary tomorrow sad Remembering back to this time last year when it was hopes, and happiness and excitement. Instead I am about to give birth, charging around still doing EVERYTHING myself because I simply don't have the support, and feeling exhausted.

I know that it is part of the process of getting over everything, and that I have to, at some stage, fully accept that the twunt I married was not the person he professed to be. That person was an illusion, and does not exist now, and will never exist.

Come on acrobat, make your way to being a wonderful air-breathing human being like me and your brother and sister. I think we are all very much ready to meet each other now!

MissStrawberry Mon 15-Jul-13 20:50:11

<acrobat needs to come out vibes>

JaxTellerIsAllMine Mon 15-Jul-13 20:58:44

waves - nothing in this whole year was your fault my lovely. None of this at all.

Try to look at your anniversary as a new start, a new beginning, not of what could have been - the ifs and buts; this is a time for a new you, new baby. Fresh and clean and beautiful.

JaxTellerIsAllMine Mon 15-Jul-13 20:59:06

You have been evicted - please do not swear! grin

Mixxy Mon 15-Jul-13 21:04:04

I think if Acrobat arrives on your first wedding anniversary, it would be a great thing. Instead of it being the day you married twunt, it will be the birthday of your youngest child (so far) and will be the end of one of the most difficult pregnancies I've heard of. Its a celebration to say, "I did it without twunt and I can do anything"!

MissStrawberry Mon 15-Jul-13 21:07:36

1 year - you can file for divorce now!

I know that might sound flippant but I am trying to show a positive side to the date arriving.

ljny Mon 15-Jul-13 21:30:02

Can't wait for Acrobat's birth!

His birthday will be so wonderful, so important, it will help you forget about the lying deceptive twnt-iversary.

C'mon, Acrobat! Yay, Waves!

BerylStreep Mon 15-Jul-13 21:34:09

My DS was born on our wedding anniversary.

It's a pretty good way of ensuring it is never at the the forefront of your mind, as you are busy dealing instead with upwards of 20 boisterous boys!

KiwiJude Mon 15-Jul-13 21:44:43

Checking in on Waves and Acrobat, just found this thread and was agog til the last page! smile Will not waste time on twunt, he is what he is - would not even spit in his general direction if I had to step over him in the street. You however Waves, are a totally different story - if you needs hands to hold there will be plenty smile

Come on Acrobat, we're all waiting... off to boil water and get fresh towels hehehe

MrBloomsMarrow Mon 15-Jul-13 22:04:08

waves I posted right back on your first thread and have been following you all the way (not in a stalker kind of way!). I said all those months ago that twunt's behaviour was just about the worst I've ever come across. I didn't think it was possible for my opinion of him to sink even lower but it has.
I can honestly say that you're one of the most amazing people I've ever "met". Your love for your DCs just shines through your posts. Being sick for 9 months is unimaginably hideous but to cope with everything else you've had thrown at you shows the most amazing strength of character. I'm in awe of you, I really am.
If anyone deserves some happiness, it's you. Hoping acrobat gets a move on. Thinking of you x

RuckAndRoll Mon 15-Jul-13 22:17:23

Waves, checking in from August thread, thinking of you, hope acrobat arrives soon for you and dc

My dd was born on the only day I didn't want her to arrive. Exactly a year (well 5 minutes earlier) after her brother had been still born. I thought it would make everything worse but actually that date has nice memories not sad ones. I think about them both on their birthday and I cherish my dd so much. If acrobat arrives on your anniversary, his birthday will become just his birthday and anything previous to that will be in the background, not the forefront of your thoughts. It may help to heal you.

I can't do this. I'm all full up with anger, so there isn't room to get into the space I need to in order to actually have this baby.

He is in a horrible mood because he's read the thread again and its all back to everything's my fault. Ok, I know I should stop communicating with him, and stop hoping, but it is so so hard.

I don't want to be in this place anymore. It is lonely and painful. I can't meet acrobat yet. I'm not ready, there is too much pain and hurt and sorrow and anger. He was meant to be born into love. That's what I was promised. I can't get rid of the negative feelings now. It is overwhelming me. I need more time. I need a pause button. I need time out to rid my head and heart of all of this, to clear the space and sweep it clean ready for acrobat. I don't know where to start.

TimidLivid Mon 15-Jul-13 23:29:58

Oh waves how awful for you, I have been reading from the start and checking this to see when baby comes. He knows what he did his anger is maybe guilt and from being a cruel psychopath. Its not you its him. You can do this, you have terrific children already and you can do this. There is not one thing you need from ex. You are going to have baby and not feel sick anymore and then you are going to only get stronger and stronger and stronger. You will have a wonderful life a cute baby and the pain will get lesser and lesser as ex mostly fades into the past. Change your number and make him get contact only through a third party why not? Why give him anything. If he's reading this please leave her alone she is in early latent labour aren't you human? Have u got no soul no empathy? Do it for the baby do it to show some humanity. Waves you are going to get past this and you are going to get stronger.

AgathaF Mon 15-Jul-13 23:31:53

On top of everything else he is a fucking creep to invade your personal space and support thread. Fuck his horrible mood - he's bought it on himself, the stupid idiot.

He should be thoroughly ashamed of himself, but I doubt that he is capable.

Waves you can do this. You have been doing this for months now, throughout a very, very physically difficult pregnancy. Nothing has changed just now, it's just that he has invaded again. Somehow you need to stop letting him do that to you, get to you like this. He is totally moronic and you will not be able to change that, but you can change how much you allow him to get to you. You must do whatever it takes - change your phone number and just have a separate one for him that you look at once a week, block his emails, move away. Whatever it takes to live your life peacefully again.

Allalonenow Mon 15-Jul-13 23:41:04

Oh waves, you are exhausted, please stop rushing to do so much, rest and calm will help you to feel better.

For tonight: Have you got some favourite music to listen to, that would help lull you to sleep, or at least soothe you? Can you get comfy with pilows so you don't feel sick? How are your pains, would a bath help you?

You do know he is wrong, and that none of this is your fault. Late at night everything seems worse and harder to deal with, so try to rest. This has been such a difficult day for you, but you are nearly through it now. Take care dear waves.

wordyBird Mon 15-Jul-13 23:42:06

Dear waves, breathe and let the anger be there for a while. It will pass, as a thunderstorm passes, and you'll feel ok again soon.

He's upset you before and you've recovered. So you know you can!

If you went No Contact.... you wouldn't know what mood he was in. It wouldn't matter. So there's quite an upside to NC.

Your little one will be born into love, you and your DC have more than enough for you all. Take care of yourself brew

Jux Mon 15-Jul-13 23:50:49

Waves, you can do this. Light some candles, burn some incense, breathe deeply.

Put all your thoughts into a big bubble and send it flying off out of the window, disappearing into the night sky until you can't see it any more.

And in the morning get a new sim and don't give him the number.

tightfortime Tue 16-Jul-13 00:13:02

Twunt, fuck off and leave the labouring woman alone for Christ's sake.

Waves, it's just a temporary blip, you can and will do this - whenever acrobat decides. Because you have come this far admirably and it will all be worth it.

You're in labour. Emotions and hormones all over the place. Be angry, let it have its moment and then box it away and off with you to your Tree.

He might be here...twat. But so are all of us

Ezio Tue 16-Jul-13 00:16:58

Waves, he will be born into love, he has your love and devotion, his brother and sister will adore him, he has love.

Twunt can fuck right off to ends of the earth.


Thumbwitch Tue 16-Jul-13 00:32:40

Yep, what Ezio said. With knobs on.

Waves - if you EVER needed more proof that you're better off without this bottom-feeder, this is it. How DARE he try and make this all about him continuously. He is NOTHING. He is worse than pondscum (that at least has a use in life).

Am going to PM you so the bastard can't see.

Ezio Tue 16-Jul-13 00:42:52

Agreed Thumb, i find him pitiful and laughable aswell, blaming everyone else for his obvious shortcomings, as a husband, father and all around human being, he has no love, soul, substance, hes a pitiful empty shell of a man, who when hes old and lonely because his sons have worked out how toxic he is, hes gonna be feeling pathetic because he had a nice life, with a wonderful woman and DC's, and he threw it all away, simply because he is pathetic, should be pitied by us, waves will be just fine, he will have nothing and only himself to blame, because he will have run out of people to blame it all on.

Thumbwitch Tue 16-Jul-13 00:52:46

Re. the hoping - I would say that it is a bit like banging your head repeatedly against a brick wall in the hope that it will eventually stop hurting. It won't. Nothing will change the fact that the wall is made of brick and you are made of soft human - brick will always hurt you if you continue to hit it, until you pass out (and you'll still have a headache when you wake up) or it finally kills you.

So walk away from the brick wall - you can walk around it, away from it, ignore it - brick walls have no sensation themselves, they don't give a shit what you do (apart from probably having a laugh at you trying to knock yourself out against them). They don't need communicating with either.

Remember who is important in your life - you, your DC, Acrobat, your friends. That's IT. Wankers whose sole purpose in life seems to be to upset you and devalue you have no place in your life any more.

ljny Tue 16-Jul-13 01:34:17

Twunt, fuck off and leave the labouring woman alone for Christ's sake.
^ This

Damnautocorrect Tue 16-Jul-13 02:54:29

Waves I've been lurking for all your threads and never felt I could add anything of any help to your threads so haven't posted until now. There was a recent case involving a divorcing spouse snooping on their partner online, now admittedly that included checking emails and Facebook. But if twunt is reading this he needs to be mindful that it is an invasion of privacy and as such he should be mindful.

Can I also just say your so incredibly strong, acrobat is truly blessed to be born into this warm loving family xxx

auntpetunia Tue 16-Jul-13 06:34:56

Came on line straight away this morning to see how you and acrobat are doing …I didn't want to see this. You brought down by that pathetic excuse for s human being! TWUNT FUCK OFF YOU BASTARD AND LEAVE THE WOMAN IN PEACE!! FFS she's in labour.

waves you can do this, you need to delete his number from you phone and not read any messages from him. He has no reason to contact you at present except to upset you and believe me this is calculated …he knows you're vulnerable and he'd getting a thrill from upsetting you (sick twisted twunt that he is )

I hope you where able to get into s calmer place and that you acrobat and the dcs have a quiet day

AndMiffyWentToSleep Tue 16-Jul-13 06:58:59

How are you doing this morning?
You seem goid at the hypnobirthing stuff - could you try doing some imagery of yourself m

AndMiffyWentToSleep Tue 16-Jul-13 07:00:09

Of yourself moving away from him or putting up s transparent barrier to protect you from him, something like that?

MinnieBar Tue 16-Jul-13 07:04:36

Dear Twunt, if you want some sympathy for you, then instead of lurking here like a coward go find your own site.

Is there a TwuntsNet?

McPie Tue 16-Jul-13 07:05:05

He is a bully and a pathetic excue for a man! angry
If he can't be supportive at this time then he should just fuck off and leave you alone.
Please please please do not enter into any form of conversation with this weasle, he will never ever change and this crap is just to control you further.
For the sake of your acrobat and your dc you need to nip this in the bud now as he will destroy what should be one of the happiest days of your little families life, and he removed himself from it so deserves no part in it now xxx

SpecialAgentTattooedQueen Tue 16-Jul-13 07:05:52

Twunt stop bullying a pregnant woman. You fucked off with a whore and researched late abortions.

You are in no way the wronged party here. Leave Waves and her family be!

Waves: Delete his number and enjoy your Twunt-Free birth with your DC!

MinnieBar Tue 16-Jul-13 07:07:01

Also waves - if you don't want to say on here when you're in established labour we'll understand. In fact, perhaps it might be better if not? You could PM one of us and we could cascade it out to the posters we definitely know, IYSWIM.

SpecialAgentTattooedQueen Tue 16-Jul-13 07:07:49

And yes to the coward comment. Stalking Waves online after everything he's done? the pathetic presents?

Loser of the highest order. DH thinks Twunt feels guilty because he's ruined his life. I say someone as emotionally damaged as him isn't capable of guilt, only self pity!

SpecialAgentTattooedQueen Tue 16-Jul-13 07:08:38

Minnie: YY to that too Waves, PM one of us and we'll use a code name grin

DonkeysDontRideBicycles Tue 16-Jul-13 07:12:10

Good mornong waves the summer birthday boy will be able to have a lovely celebration each year and you can do something arty and play something for him and if the date coincides with a certain anniversary, well, then it's meant to be. Glad your douula is on standby and no bothersome lodger to spoil the atmosphere at home. Keep your mind on the prize, the pregnancy race is almost won.

dollius Tue 16-Jul-13 07:25:46

Also delurking to say this complete twat is one of the biggest losers I have ever read about on here. And bullying a woman in labour has to be one of the most despicable things I have ever heard.

Twunt - you are a complete and utter twat. You fucked off to shag your ex girlfriend after researching late abortions, encouraged your children to be abusive to your very sick wife, forced her to take in lodgers to pay the bills on the house she gave up everything to buy with you (at a time when having strangers around is really stressful), and then continued to verbally abuse her - while she was carrying your child, enduring severe vomiting and having to go into hospital repeatedly.

You clearly couldn't give a shit about anything other than your own pathetic "needs" and you are a wanker of the highest order.


JaxTellerIsAllMine Tue 16-Jul-13 07:32:57

morning lovely waves, I hope you found some peace last night.

You CAN do this, you WILL do this. You've done it for the past 9 months.

When you are in EL please PM one of us like others have said.

And yy to the hypno state, use that for yourself for now.

Remember, calm mum, calm baby, calm birth.

oh and TWUNT, fuck you! Honestly, just do one. You are indeed surplus to requirements, you do nothing except TAKE.
You are very very lucky that I and other MNers on here dont live where waves does, that is for sure. No way would you be doing this if she had the rl support network that she has online.

CurlyFox Tue 16-Jul-13 07:39:38

Fuck of you Twunt you are scum

Good morning Waves we are all
still here by your side. You can do this there is no place for negative thoughts/people as you bring your acrobat into the world. Put this to one side and concentrate on your happiness and I second getting a new number

GaryBuseysTeeth Tue 16-Jul-13 07:51:34

Morning Waves.
Hope you managed some sleep last night, glad the clothes have turned up.

<<positive vibes>> & think of your tree flowers

ChangingWoman Tue 16-Jul-13 08:12:00

"In the morning get a new sim and don't give him the number."

Definitely this if you can. Just cut him off completely for the last few days/weeks so you can get some peace and focus on the birth.

I write this as someone who sees now that they should have got rid of exH while pregnant. I let him hang around and he made the first years of my daughter's life all about him and his problems.

You owe Twunt nothing and maintaining any level of contact now will only bring harm. Freeze him out, at least temporarily, and let yourself focus on yourself and your baby.

ClairesTravellingCircus Tue 16-Jul-13 08:26:53

Waves so sorry to hear about twunt being... Well the twunt that he is.

But you will get through this, you've been coping amazingly so far, you are such a strong woman, I have no doubts when the time comes you will find that calm space in your head and your body to welcome Acrobat into your family.



MissStrawberry Tue 16-Jul-13 08:33:40

I suggest no more mention of the fucking prick by anyone. I am sure he is loving us all getting so irate and is probably getting off on it. He is a nonentity and needs to be treated as such.

Waves, you have hundreds of women supporting you and behind you and willing you on. PLEASE if any of you are close to Waves make yourself known.

Get yourself to a phone shop and get them to block the pathetic wanker (last comment on it.)

Right, I have put my angry and disappointed feelings into a box and buried it away in the garden. I can deal with those at a later stage. Now, just to focus on my family and getting centred and to a place of peace again.

Off to the supermarket because it's the double dividend day at the co-op, make sure I have enough to get through the rest of the week at least (well, enough to get the DCs through anyway)

Only other task is to get some printer paper as I have a gig next week and have been asked to play part of a Corelli concerto, and have been emailed a pdf of my part, so am going to play through that (and breathe, and breathe, all a bit ouchy this morning)

I am a strong woman, I can do anything. I have been accused of emasculating partners in the past. My crime? Not actually "needing" them, whatever that means. Little miss independent and all that. I have got through the most hideous of pregnancies by myself, and am going to carry on with more than surviving. Because actually I have more than survived.

Thank you EVERYONE. Acrobat is very lucky to have so many people thinking of him, and about to become his online aunties smile

Off to the shops for me then.

SpecialAgentTattooedQueen Tue 16-Jul-13 08:54:50

Do you think unborn babies can succumb to online emotional peer pressure?

>Acrobat....Come out come out wherever Well I know where but still you are...<

Enjoy the shops Waves! How did the DC like their new school things?

SpecialAgentTattooedQueen Tue 16-Jul-13 08:55:16

Oh and congratulations on the gig!! How exciting!

AndMiffyWentToSleep Tue 16-Jul-13 09:03:30

Go Waves!
You certainly have more than survived!

The best revenge is a life lived well Waves thanks

minkembernard Tue 16-Jul-13 10:02:32

Just wishing you well wavessmile I hope it is soon, quick and easy and then you get to eat and eat for days whilst looking at your lovely baby with your beautiful dcs and building your strength up.

springytoto Tue 16-Jul-13 10:09:14

Corelli! Lucky you! What are you playing - ie what instrument are you playing?

BerylStreep Tue 16-Jul-13 10:10:32

Waves, we are thinking of both of you.

<<good vibes>>

BadgerFace Tue 16-Jul-13 10:16:27

Echoing some of the other posters but Waves, you have more than survived, you are living what will be an enormously more successful and happy life without twunt holding you back and being so negative and emotionally draining.

Given what you have achieved and battled through whilst so ill with this pregnancy, think what you can face when fitting fit - wowsers, look out world, here comes (v soon!) post-pregnancy Waves...

Thumbwitch Tue 16-Jul-13 10:57:12

Well done Waves - hope that you have a successful shopping trip!

I was going to hope that you get to play in the gig, but actually I don't - I hope you'll be too busy with a snuffly new little baby by then! grin

LiveItUp Tue 16-Jul-13 11:00:30

Shopping done yet? Hope you are resting in your happy place under the tree waiting calmly for Acrobat to join you. We are gathering to support you. You can do this and it will be a calm and wonderful experience. ((hugs))

smile back from shopping.... springy I am just playing continuo for the Corelli but looking forward v much to it. And thumbwitch I fully intend to play the gig whether it is with acrobat inside me or snuggled up against me in the moby wrap.... Maybe I am being optimistic? I hope not.

De-lurking to wish you the best of luck Waves. Have read all your threads and think you have an amazing strength. I dont know exactly which tree you mean in York (I'll just pick the best and call it "Waves' tree") but I know the Minster and its surroundings fairly well and it is a beautiful place.

Stay strong and start to think of all the lovely non-pregnant non sickness food you'll be able to enjoy.

I was 10 days over when I had DS (around this time of year) and couldnt get to a blue cheese baguette fast enough when DS was finally out smile

tightfortime Tue 16-Jul-13 11:08:20

God, you’re some woman to be taking gigs right now!

Love the overnight return of steel. Absolutely right that the finest revenge is to be happy.

Chill time now...(gets stern) baby and mum need rest!

Thumbwitch Tue 16-Jul-13 11:15:37

Wow, good for you then Waves!! Your level of professionalism is astounding, I don't think I could do that! [impressed]

Still, if he's out, at least you won't be feeling sick so Bonus! grin

FoofFighter Tue 16-Jul-13 11:16:59

waves [waves] smile

just popping over from the other thread to show some support and hurry along vibes too for your little acrobat!
Stay strong, you are an amazing woman!
sending much love xxx

FobblyWoof Tue 16-Jul-13 11:18:05

I just spent the last two days reading your previous posts (not solidly mind, I do have DD to think of!) and I am emotionally exhausted just reading them. I have absolutely no idea how you feel or how you've not only managed to survive the last few months but do as well as you have. Truly incredible, and I mean that from the bottom of my heart.

Twunt reading your threads and then reporting back on how your portraying speaks volumes. It would be laughable if he wasn't such an atrocious cunt. No, you know what? It's still laughable. If he was such a saint and it was all your fault and he's so worried about how he's coming across he'd sign up and put his side forward. But he won't because he knows he's wrong and he knows he'd get ripped to pieces- not because of the way you've painted him, not because we're all a bunch of man hating bitches (I think very few MN users are), but because, simply put, his actions since January (and probably before) have been deplorable from start to finish. Even ignoring his actions from Jan to a few days ago sending nasty texts to a woman in labour is disgusting, never mind the fact that the child is his.

So, if you're reading this Twunt (and this is the only time I will address you directly, so read carefully), I have four words that you really need to bear in mind. Repeat them over and over in your head before you get it, "It's not about me."

Try it, right now. "It's not about me."

I have a sneaking suspicion this has been the problem all along. Your not the most important person in waves life. You never were and you couldn't handle it. I bet you did feel weak all those times she didn't need you because she's perfectly capable of doing things herself and standing up for herself and you didn't like it. You're a very weak person.

waves All the best for the next few days/week etc, and I hope little Acrobat makes his appearance soon

MrsPennyapple Tue 16-Jul-13 12:25:11

Hi Waves! Just poking my head round the door to say hi, and send you and the little 'un lots of good vibes.

Go Waves! <shakes pom poms> smile

LucyTheValiant Tue 16-Jul-13 13:25:18

Oh Waves, you are amazing smile

Come on little Acrobat!

MissStrawberry Tue 16-Jul-13 14:06:25

<heart melts at Mumsnetters being honorary Aunties.>

I am going to send you a PM Waves once you let me know your soon to be ex can't access them.

MrsDeVere Tue 16-Jul-13 15:00:13

WTF has he got to be angry about?

What a wanker.

waves you are a Queen so fuck him and his whinging.

Come on little baby! x

Bogeyface Tue 16-Jul-13 16:25:51

He is angry because all us stupid women are on his case when clearly it is all Waves fault!! Its not his fault that he treated her like shit and abandoned her and their baby when she was seriously ill, no not at all.


auntpetunia Tue 16-Jul-13 17:21:54

As an honorary virtual Auntie I promise to be nicer than my namesake was to Harry Potter!

Waves you're amazing and you and all your dcs will be fine on your own.

MrsDeVere Tue 16-Jul-13 17:25:49

Yeah, like I said, Wanker.

He doesn't think he has done a single thing wrong does he?

Never will.

Yay for waves and her utter awesomeness.

Stopsittingonyoursister Tue 16-Jul-13 17:35:52

Hi Waves just popping in from the other thread to wish you every bit of good luck that is going around at the moment, and hope your little acrobat makes an appearance when he's ready.

You are an amazing woman; stay strong and happy.

SkylerRose Tue 16-Jul-13 17:58:54

Good luck waves hope u enjoy the concert and come on little acrobat! We wanna all say hi xxx

pointythings Tue 16-Jul-13 18:46:35

I love the thought of being an honorary online auntie. Can I be the one who's the designated bad influence, tells dodgy jokes, knows far too much about cocktails and waves around a decorative cigarette holder (without a cigarette in it, obviously - I don't smoke)?

Lose yourself in Corelli, who knows, Acrobat might be enticed out by the music?

starrystarryknut Tue 16-Jul-13 20:08:31

OK I'm new and not much to add except I had a bastard DH and 4 days after DS2 born I played Brandenburg 5. Concertino not ripieno. I think we are on the same page here. XH is long gone, 2 DS, and a v happy life. And a lot of Corelli since then. Take heart.

Woofers Tue 16-Jul-13 21:01:53

Come on acrobat!!!!!!

Loads of love luck and jealous no more sickness vibes coming your way.

And breathe.

Rosy xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

TiredFeet Tue 16-Jul-13 21:19:45

just checking in to see how you're doing waves smile
wishing you all the best

DonkeysDontRideBicycles Tue 16-Jul-13 21:33:25

Loads of good wishes from MNers waves look at all this encouragement smile

LiveItUp Tue 16-Jul-13 21:39:10

<< waving pompoms for you waves >>

Bogeyface Tue 16-Jul-13 21:39:21

Can I be the one who sneaks them alcopops at Xmas, says "Dont tell you mum!" and then blames Pointythings when they are throwing up blue sick? grin

Come on little acrobat. We are sending you a great big wave of love. Your daddy has let you down but your mummy has made sure you'll have everything you need.

Waves 'thus too shall pass'. He does not deserve any of you. Keep that in mind.

All this support is wonderful, and I am chuckling at the thought of blue sick grin

Acrobat is still staying put for now it seems, although my body is making a half hearted attempt to evict him. I think that maybe it is just too warm for any kind of serious exertion! It is now 9 years and almost 4 months since I was this pregnant, as DD was born at 38 weeks exactly (7 years and 10 months ago). In a week, if he is still in situ I will be (a) the "most" pregnant I have ever been and (b) seriously wondering whether I will be able to play the Corelli (and a beautiful Vaughan Williams arrangement) given that is due to happen a week Thursday. I don't think I could manage either in active labour. starrystarry I would rather be playing with a tiny baby I think than being this enormous and uncomfortable (Although yet again I had a "your so tiny" comment from a mum at school - I certainly don't feel it)

It was DS's school summer concert this evening, so DD and I took him along and sat through that. It was so hot! I had to step out for a break just to escape the heat and the sitting down. He was very pleased that I was there which of course makes it all worthwhile.

I already had a warm bath today, but may risk another. Or just collapse in bed and hope for sleep. Seriously running on empty and willing acrobat to appear. It is also lovely to see familiar faces popping up from other parts of MN - and honestly, for those of you who think I have had a bad time with the hyperemesis, there are ever such a lot of other people going through it. I am just relieved that the end of my journey through that particular hell is now in sight.

I can't wait to be cuddling my little acrobat.

Bogeyface Tue 16-Jul-13 22:06:02

I read an article on HG recently where several women had second trimester terminations purely due to that. They clearly felt awful at making that decision but just couldnt live with the HG anymore.

That brought home to me just how strong you have been Waves, what you have been through shows just how strong you are. Any one would expect to crumble under what twatface has done, or under the sheer horror of HG or from the stress of opening their homes to strangers. You have taken all that on, and won! You are amazing, and I truly admire you. You show what can be done with sheer determination and a good heart.

I feel privileged to "know" you smile

themidwife Tue 16-Jul-13 22:06:44

Soon I think though! We're all on tenterhooks here! smile

bunchamunchycrunchycarrots Tue 16-Jul-13 22:38:03

Sending you all the good positive vibes I can muster waves. I suffered from HG in my (only!) pregnancy and really do admire your strength. Not long now!

AgathaF Tue 16-Jul-13 23:02:28

I also had HG with both my pregnancies, but not to the extent that you have had it. I'm sure that you realise that in other times, you would have been in serious trouble with your severe symptoms, yet you have taken that and all the shit he has thrown at you and coped. Hats off to you - you are a star.

Jux Tue 16-Jul-13 23:24:27

Good luck waves. Hope you get some sleep tonight.

Acrobat, settle down now and let your mum sleep. You can come out in the morning.

PyroclasticFlo Wed 17-Jul-13 07:54:58

Hope you slept well and are feeling good this morning Waves, just checking in to see how you're doing! smile

MissStrawberry Wed 17-Jul-13 08:01:52

Thinking of you today Waves.

I will be taking the Strawberry kids swimming once I work out when the pool opens and will be thinking of you labouring in a lovely pool and Acrobat being born in a wave of love and support from hundreds of people he will probably never meet.

<cries at own words>blush

Mixxy Wed 17-Jul-13 08:36:32

Thinking of you today as well waves. If people have things to send to Acrobat, do we send them to the knitting/crochet group? Can somebody PM me? I think midwife had info?

JaxTellerIsAllMine Wed 17-Jul-13 09:42:44

morning, I have walked the dog before it gets too hot again today for him me

Just going to have a another cool shower to get me started for the day.

Waves, hope you got some sleep and acrobat is comfortable and ready to come out soon. grin

I am so excited, its beyond help! flowers brew

DonkeysDontRideBicycles Wed 17-Jul-13 09:50:13

MN aunties refreshing this thread, all hoping waves is making good progress. <F5 button wearing out> grin

Gullygirl Wed 17-Jul-13 10:08:29

Another one delurking to wish you the very best of everything in the future.
You are one Fine Woman.

LiveItUp Wed 17-Jul-13 10:50:36

<Takes deep breath and steps calmly into the circle of fellow MN aunties gathered under Waves's tree>

<gets kicked out as far too bouncy and excited>

Thinking of you Waves and hoping that Acrobat is soon to join us you. The end of your HG will give you so much more strength as you settle into a new routine with your 3 adorable DCs. ((hugs))

LucyTheValiant Wed 17-Jul-13 11:23:37

Thinking of you Waves flowers

Hello smile I think I am actually melting. Very crampy today, and not sure whether that is because it is so hot, or because my body might be attempting to ramp things up a notch in terms of acrobat's eviction. I must admit that as soon as I had sent the DCs to school I went back to bed blush

I have now managed to do a little bit of clothes washing, and now am waiting for the paracetamol to kick in before I play some Vaughan Williams and Corelli. Oh, I fed and watered all the animals, and put a load of icecubes and orange squash lollies in the freezer so that the DCs and I don't melt so much this evening as we did last night.

I never thought we'd have an actual summer with heat and sunshine when we planned a July baby. didn't expect to deal with the entire pregnancy as a single mum to 2 lovely but, well, typical children and with HG but those feelings and thoughts are buried in one of my boxes now

Owwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. (And this is only the warm up stage. Yikes)

AndMiffyWentToSleep Wed 17-Jul-13 12:46:04

Long warm-up stage may mean shorter active stage?
(Am I clutching at straws here? Hope not!)
Stop doing chores now, Waves, and plonk yourself in the DC's paddling pool to cool off! (Playing music in paddling pool is allowed though grin)

Jux Wed 17-Jul-13 13:28:52

I've heard that too, about long warm up shorter active - and not just on MN!

Enjoy your Corelli and V-W. Wish I could listen in. Hope the contractions aren't too painful,anyway. You really are admirable, you know.

SpecialAgentTattooedQueen Wed 17-Jul-13 13:46:08

Ignore the 'Oh but you're so small!' comments. Kate is small and suffered HG!!!

You're the realistic version of a Disney princess! wink

minkembernard Wed 17-Jul-13 15:14:05

loving the paddling pool idea....just get out in time if it looks like turning into a birthing pool grin

AndMiffyWentToSleep Wed 17-Jul-13 15:33:02

What's wrong with a birthing pool?
(Think it may just be a bit too shallow though!)

tightfortime Wed 17-Jul-13 15:45:19

Loving waves being the real-life Kate smile

Stay cool girl, almost there

MissStrawberry Wed 17-Jul-13 16:14:01

I am interested in hearing when Kate is in labour but I care about when Waves is.

DonkeysDontRideBicycles Wed 17-Jul-13 17:48:02

I wish the Duchess well but c'mon acrobat, we're eager to hear waves has had you smile. Keep cool everyone!

No progress to report yet I'm afraid, although I had a mad spell of contractions for about 3 hours earlier. Hopped in the paddling pool with the kids which was rather nice. I am actually hoping for a water birth, but the DCs wouldn't forgive me if they came home from school to find their beloved pool filled with bits from inside me. Bleurgh.

I feel more content today. I have boxed away and buried my anger, disappointment and fears and feel more tranquil now. So, Acrobat, you can come now.

AgathaF Wed 17-Jul-13 18:33:37

So pleased that you're feeling happier today. Perhaps your body/mind has allowed itself to put twunt to the back of everything so that acrobat is born into a lovely peaceful and joyful environment.

It's amazing how sticking your feet in a cold paddling pool of water cools you down so well, isn't it?

Well done, Waves! thanks

CounselorTroi Wed 17-Jul-13 18:38:31

I am interested in hearing when Kate is in labour but I care about when Waves is

this. Waves, darling, you are amazing.

Twunt, be delighted that none of us actually know who you are in real life because if you were any man I knew I'd spit in your face. Now fuck off.

Whocansay Wed 17-Jul-13 20:07:54

Hi Waves, another lurker here, wishing you well. I just wanted to point out that if Twunt is reading this, it may be wise to throw some misinformation on the thread, name change or even move to OTBT, otherwise he'll find out when you're in labour and may turn up even if you don't want him there.

I sincerely hope all goes well for you and your beautiful acrobat. flowers

pinkbraces Wed 17-Jul-13 21:06:32

Hi waves,

Another delurker here, sending you lots of happy vibes, I've followed your story and think you are awesome smile

I wish you the birth you want, and I know you are going to have a wonderful future with your beautiful children x

MissStrawberry Wed 17-Jul-13 21:13:36

Well done Waves.

<jumps on box and squashes, no obliterates it!!

eagerbeagle Thu 18-Jul-13 00:03:08

Go waves go

<high kicks with pompom wave>

<pulls muscle and limps away, still cheering>

Yet another delurker smile

Wishing you all the best waves, you're amazing.

minkembernard Thu 18-Jul-13 00:38:00

nothing at all wrong with a birthing pool...i just meant get out of the paddling pool and into the real birthing pool if required before it is too late. couple if my friends have been caught short second or third time around!

although it would be a good story to tell acrobat...born in a paddling pool.

WingDefence Thu 18-Jul-13 04:01:20

Hiya waves. Still rooting for you over here but have been dealing with chicken poxy DS and now ill DD (16 weeks tomorrow!) so not been on MN as much as usual. Thinking of you lots though. HG nearly gone biscuit grin

saffronwblue Thu 18-Jul-13 04:43:02

Delurking to say so much good luck to you and I so admire how you have handled this tough time. Not long now till cuddles with Acrobat!

thekitchenfairy Thu 18-Jul-13 04:47:24

Bloody hell, Well done Waves grin

Ive been thinking of you lots, not long now, loser lodger has buggered off so everything is in place for your Acrobat's arrival.

Your awesomeness came through in your very first thread, you are in fact an MN legend. i hope one day you can read back and see just how amazing you are, and how far you have come.

Wishing you well my lovely, we're all here for you... In fact there are so many of us under your tree that it's hard to find a spot in the shade!

flowers flowers flowers for you and biscuit biscuit for your DCs, not long now til it's brew and biscuit for you too grin

Think we need an ice cream icon what with all this sunshine MNHQ!!

PyroclasticFlo Thu 18-Jul-13 07:49:26

Thinking of you each morning Waves, like other posters I'm checking on you and Acrobat before I even look on the news to see if the royal baby has arrived yet grin.

Hope all goes well and that Acrobat arrives soon, happily and healthily and easily and quickly, with perfect timing!

JaxTellerIsAllMine Thu 18-Jul-13 07:53:05

checking in, leaving brew brew and a BIG FAN to keep us all cool, until air con is installed. grin

KalevalaForMePlease Thu 18-Jul-13 08:01:27

Good luck waves, long time lurker here too. Wishing you all the best and a safe delivery. You are awesome thanks

McPie Thu 18-Jul-13 08:07:41

Checking in to see how you are doing waves, I'm glad you have boxed the negatives and are concentrating on the positives.
You are amazing, just keep repeating that in moments of weakness x

mistlethrush Thu 18-Jul-13 09:01:18

Holiday internet has not been up to much, but have managed to get on to catch up with news.

I'm so glad that L1 has left (with a clean room too!)

Glad you've managed to bury the box in the garden - and I'm sending lots of positive, peaceful vibes in your direction - and hoping Acrobat doesn't keep you waiting around for too much longer!

LiveItUp Thu 18-Jul-13 09:03:30

<arrives under tree to hand out the first round of ice-creams to everyone>

Wishing you well Waves and hope you can keep cool and calm. x

MissStrawberry Thu 18-Jul-13 09:17:27

I check here first to see if Acrobat has arrived then the news to see if Baby Cambridge has grin.

Dressingdown1 Thu 18-Jul-13 10:23:37

Another delurker here. Just want to wish you well Waves. I hope that no news = good news and that Acrobat is now on his way.

I think you have been wonderful and that your DCs are very lucky to have such a great Mum

wordyBird Thu 18-Jul-13 14:31:08

<whistles and tries to look nonchalant..>

Jux Thu 18-Jul-13 15:40:36

Checking in! Too hot to do more.

<picks up screwdriver and eyes parts for aircon forlornly. Puts screwdriver down and tiptoes away>

Allalonenow Thu 18-Jul-13 16:09:21

Just popping in to wish you well waves.

<serves Pimms to everyone lurking near the tree>

LucyTheValiant Thu 18-Jul-13 16:11:54

Checking in here, too!

Keeping everything crossed for you Waves, and hope Acrobat is here soon!

DonkeysDontRideBicycles Thu 18-Jul-13 16:15:27

Opens fridge, stands in chill, closes door. Repeats.

Hey acrobat, hope the warm-up exercises mean you'll not dawdle when it's time.

Thought I'd peek from time to time, a watched pot etc etc.

Back to fridge!

auntpetunia Thu 18-Jul-13 16:49:14

Really hope your silence means you're going to introduce us to the wonderful acrobat soon.

<joins everyone under the tree …And brings ice lollies >

LiveItUp Thu 18-Jul-13 17:02:10

<gratefully accepts Pimms and ice lolly and puts on some Corelli>

Orianne Thu 18-Jul-13 18:31:19

So exciting. X

Ezio Thu 18-Jul-13 18:34:44

This is what dads must feel like, anxiously waiting....

Boosiehs Thu 18-Jul-13 18:35:59

<fingers crossed for acrobat's safe arrival!>

Doha Thu 18-Jul-13 18:40:30

Excited...we going to be Auntie's soon me thinks

GaryBuseysTeeth Thu 18-Jul-13 18:53:28

<drums fingers nervously>

Hope you're not too overwhelmed by all the Wave stalkers (wavelets?) speculating as to why you've not been online today grin

<pompoms> waving like mad.

zimbomaman Thu 18-Jul-13 19:25:01

Another "wavelet" almost pushing with you.

<doing the breathing thing>

SpecialAgentTattooedQueen Thu 18-Jul-13 19:45:04

Remember your breathing Waves...

Come on Acrobat!!!! Cheerleader kick

CurlyFox Thu 18-Jul-13 19:57:25

Ooooohh go on Waves you can do it

Acrobat is STILL cooking, despite some rather uncomfortable spells today.

Please, please save some Pimms and icecream for me - soon as he arrives I think I will be well and truly deserving of both. Munching on my fortisip icecubes sad

And I haven't been online as I have been doing what is hopefully last-minute nesting - popped to Boots to use the last of my parenting club vouchers before the expiry date, been to the bank, and got my phone fixed, before tidying DS's room, crying at the state of DD's room, cleaning and tidying the living room, ditto the kitchen, and also fixing up DD's ever growing bean plant. (It is going to take over the entire kitchen shortly!)

Still got my boxes buried, and have been feeling content and positive again today.

So, altogether now - I am sure that if enough people shout he is bound to get the idea:



TiredFeet Thu 18-Jul-13 20:05:34

oh what a wait waves !


sounds like a very busy day, make sure you get some rest too!

LucyTheValiant Thu 18-Jul-13 20:09:41

Yes waves, don't tire yourself out, especially in the heat! You'll need those energy reserves to get Acrobat to shift his bum.


JaxTellerIsAllMine Thu 18-Jul-13 20:30:58

Come OUT Acrobat! I am like The Queen, I want this baby to come out before I go on holiday. grin

Lets get him out before next weekend if you please.

And I will send you all the pimms and ice cream your little heart desires.

captainmummy Thu 18-Jul-13 20:48:21

Jax grin




<mexican wave(s) anyone?>

JsOtherHalf Thu 18-Jul-13 20:52:14


Callmedreckly Thu 18-Jul-13 20:57:52

Come on Acrobat, Come on, Come on grin

<waves pom poms>

MissStrawberry Thu 18-Jul-13 20:58:17


It is time to meet your public grin.

springytoto Thu 18-Jul-13 21:01:41


^^ mexican wave (approximation)

It won't be long before Acrobat will be ready for the biscuit biscuit either, fairy wink

No pressure.... <whistling>

DonkeysDontRideBicycles Thu 18-Jul-13 21:20:02

Yoohoo Acrobat! <pom poms akimbo>.

BadgerFace Thu 18-Jul-13 21:51:33

aaaibAcrobat, we are waaaiting...aaaaa

auntpetunia Thu 18-Jul-13 21:58:21

Gosh he's still cooking! Now young acrobat time to get a wriggle on …its nice and warm out here! And your mummy deserves icecream and pimms!

LiveItUp Thu 18-Jul-13 22:32:08

blush Waves hope you don't feel pressured by all of us over anxious online aunties.

Pleased you are feeling calm - he will come out when he is good and ready. Won't be the only time he keeps you waiting I'm sure grin

AgathaF Fri 19-Jul-13 06:47:54


Waves have a rest today??

themidwife Fri 19-Jul-13 07:44:49

Not long now!! smilesmilesmilesmile

WingDefence Fri 19-Jul-13 07:58:55

C'mon Acrobat!!

JaxTellerIsAllMine Fri 19-Jul-13 08:14:14

waves here is what I plan for today... NOTHING, you on the other hand had better have plans for landscaping your garden, popping to the garden centre, re pumping the paddling pool, filling it and possibly cutting the grass. Oh wait, that is ME not you.

brew <dangles pimms and ice cream in front of waves>

Jux Fri 19-Jul-13 08:16:35

Morning waves. Hope you got some rest last night. We have managed to create some air movement in our house partly because there is actual air movement outside! Oh, it's lovely sitting in a breeze.

What are your plans today?

Mixxy Fri 19-Jul-13 08:35:17

Oh Acrobat! Today is a good day to show yourself! Be good to yourself in the heat waves.

Boosiehs Fri 19-Jul-13 08:44:43

Come on Acrobat!!!!!

MissStrawberry Fri 19-Jul-13 08:46:02

I am making ice cream muffins today so think it would be a perfect way to celebrate a baby being born grin.

Waves, we know you can't really control when Acrobat is born, we are just inpatient excited!

I think you all need to shout louder as Acrobat must not be able to hear or has decided he is quite comfy where he is and has developed selective hearing already . Last night I had another spell of crampy contractions that woke me up around 1am, but then by 3.30 they just faded (and I got back to sleep).

I need to pop to the shop today and am, after that half tempted to mow the lawn, but may instead make it a much quieter day and just do some music and resting. Have the kids dinner defrosting as I decided to let them have one of my previously batch cooked meals today, as opposed to cooking from scratch like I did yesterday (if you can call home made spicy wedges and falafel cooking from scratch confused)

What is an icecream muffin MissStrawberry? I can't wait to tuck into food properly again, and all this talk of Pimms is causing more period-like cramps. BUT today is technically the end of window one - the next one is not until 3pm 28th July....

Last day of term, so no more packed lunches or school uniform faffing for 6 weeks. I even managed to remember to ask the children to write out thank you cards for their teachers.

tightfortime Fri 19-Jul-13 10:13:02

Ahhh, Acrobat's giving you time to get all your ducks in a line, house in order, children out of school and then let the calm descend. Good baba!

MissStrawberry Fri 19-Jul-13 11:08:22

Currently waiting for the ice cream to melt some more so I can make the muffins. They are just a tub of M&S chocolate brownie ice cream mixed with 200g of self raising flour. Not made before so can't report back yet though the person who made them and published the recipe said they were a real winner. Light, chocolatey and studded with chocolate chips. There was also a recipe for A Millionaire Shortbread loaf (turned out dense, sweet and stodgy she reports) made from M&S Millionaire's Shortbread ice cream with 200g self raising flour added. Bake for 45 minutes.

When I do get the muffins in the oven I will check after 20 minutes as that is the usual time it takes to bake muffins.

I look forward to hearing how the muffins turn out smile

Dilemma: I have just been asked whether I would like to play a beautiful Handel concerto on Monday evening, with a single rehearsal Sunday afternoon. Do I? Don't I? My instrument is not small, so realistically I would need to find someone to come along with me to move it about, but am I seriously overdoing it if I say yes, given I am already playing tonight (forgot about that one blush), Wednesday night, Thursday afternoon, and next Saturday and Sunday.

I don't know what to doooooo. I love the concerto so much, and missed playing it last time as I was actually on one of my emergency hospital admissions due to the HG. But I also want acrobat to get a wriggle on, and don't really want to let anyone down at the last minute in terms of non-performance....

FiftyShadesofGreyMatter Fri 19-Jul-13 11:24:23

Delurking to wish you well for what I hope is the imminent and smooth entry of Acrobat into the world grin

MissStrawberry Fri 19-Jul-13 11:30:39

Tell the person who has asked you to play of your concerns and see if between you you can come up with a solution. It would be a real shame if you miss out and Acrobat isn't born for another few days.

MissStrawberry Fri 19-Jul-13 11:46:52

Just as I thought, the muffins were cooked in 20 minutes. The Millionaire Shortbread Loaf probably does take nearer the 45 minutes though as you will bake it in a loaf tin.

Not tasted yet. DS2 is so engrossed in his game he hasn't realised they are out of the oven grin.

JaxTellerIsAllMine Fri 19-Jul-13 11:49:52

Looking forward to reading how the muffins turn out.
Speak to the people wanting you to play & see if they can help you out. Presume they know you are heavily pregnant & ill too?

SpecialAgentTattooedQueen Fri 19-Jul-13 12:18:25

I think Acrobat is practising his moves so he can somersault out with a twirl, then stand in a gymnastics stance in his adorable stunning shiny leotard!

MissStrawberry Fri 19-Jul-13 13:14:30

Muffins were nice though tbh not as amazing as I expected (maybe the ice cream needed more melting) and I definitely have made nicer ones. Very easy to do though.

Sounds like a simple recipe, and something I will hopefully manage ok with the DCs once acrobat appears smile

Decided to avoid the shops and will just pop out for milk in a bit.

Decision made regarding the concerto - I told the leader of the chamber group just how close to my due date I now am, and he decided he didn't want to risk a delivery mid-performance, so I'll be playing in a couple of months time instead.

springytoto Fri 19-Jul-13 14:37:02

Must pass on a tip to keep cool that may come in handy for when Acrobat finally decides to make an appearance (I'm telling everybody this!): wet socks. Honestly, I had the best night's sleep last night. My friend is a palliative care nurse and they've been struggling to think of a way to cool patient's down - voila, the wet socks idea was born. I resisted it until 2am and then thought blow it, I was desperado. Works like an absolute dream. I actually shivered a bit before I zonked off to a proper sleep.

That was a long para! All in a good cause wink.

Ah well there's plenty of Handel about (thank goodness!)

I hope you're resting today [stupid question] smile

LucyTheValiant Fri 19-Jul-13 14:39:26

Hope you're relaxing today Waves flowers

Thumbwitch Fri 19-Jul-13 15:38:53

Good decision re. the Handel, Waves - there'll always be another chance!

I hope that things happen very soon for you - you were one of 3 expectant mothers that I was hoping might deliver today (You, a friend here and the Duchess of Cambridge grin) as it's my birthday smile - but I don't think any of you are going to manage it! I know my friend here in Australia certainly hasn't as we're past midnight now; and unless you and the DoC are planning half hour deliveries, I guess I'll miss out on you two as well. Never mind!

Hope you're managing to stay cool x

themidwife Fri 19-Jul-13 16:03:48

That sounds sensible. I think you need to make space mentally for this baby to come, ie no more work plans.

Happy birthday thumbwitch thanks, or at least, happy birthday for yesterday I suppose if it is past midnight....

I'm playing at a castle tonight - would be fairly "epic" (as DS would say) if I managed to have a half hour labour and deliver there, on the same day as the DoC. Imagine having a baby born in a castle grin

Not much hope I don't think - and before I even think about that I have to get DD to tidy her bedroom - it is causing the most awful behaviour on her part, despite being asked nicely repeatedly. I just don't want the aggro. Seriously, seriously tempted to follow through on previous threats and bag up take ALL her toys and and all but the bare minimum of clothes to the charity shop.

Thumbwitch Fri 19-Jul-13 16:43:16

Thank you waves! thanks

Well you could always at least bag her stuff and hide it in the garage - give her a shock!

Enjoy playing at the castle. I'm off to bed now as tis nearly 2am <sigh>

faulkernegger Fri 19-Jul-13 16:48:28

Hello waves - have just joined the thread - hope all is well. If it helps, my dd's behaviour was absolutely appalling on the eve of her brother's birth - she even got chucked out of her ballet class - I think she sensed something was up.

MissStrawberry Fri 19-Jul-13 17:17:47

<wonders if pregnant as DD is being obnoxious>

Jux Fri 19-Jul-13 18:04:44

Yep, I'd bag it all up and hide it, too!

Enjoy playing tonight in your castle. V jealous.

pointythings Fri 19-Jul-13 19:11:08

Yep, bag up and hide if you have the energy.

Enjoy your music, and Acrobat - stay put until the 28th now, OK?

DonkeysDontRideBicycles Fri 19-Jul-13 19:47:59

Hope the DCs enjoyed their end of term. Funny, of my two DCs, DD is also the messier, anyway waves without exerting yourself overmuch, if you can possibly extract a few items at a time she may not even notice they're gone.

Oh, and happy birthday for yesterday your time, Thumbwitch. flowers

starrystarryknut Fri 19-Jul-13 20:07:22

Umm, waves you've got to stop gigging for now. Seriously.

My gig went brilliantly, and v helpful strong men carted all my gear to and fro so the DCs got to be groupies instead of roadies.

Biggest surprise of my year was that my sister and BIL just turned up. I think they hoped that acrobat would have arrived by now, but they are in the midst of moving house, subject to contracts being signed next week, so this weekend it turns out was there only opportunity to be here for the next 6 weeks. Quite a lovely surprise regardless of whether acrobat is here or not and my DCs are soooo excited to see them.

I would now quite like acrobat to put in an appearance tonight. Any sure fire tips?

Ezio Fri 19-Jul-13 20:47:03

Do you have anything you can rock on, when i was trying to get my body to evict DD, i got on a rocking chair, and the rocking towards put pressure on my cervix and labour kicked off about 6 hours later.

I have a rocking chair! (Well, it actually belongs to DD, gift from grandma) I shall see what happens if I rock. I tried bouncing earlier in the week, but it made me sicker than normal, and it is hard to bounce safely whilst holding a sick bowl. Rocking on a chair may be much easier, and practical from a vomiting perspective.

If acrobat doesn't appear following serious rocking action, then tomorrow morning I will tackle DD's room. It is annoying as DS is so much tidier, but then he also has far less clutter. I can't really cast aspersions though as I am a terrible hoarder.

Feeling crampy now, and thinking that I have chilli powder, cumin, crushed chillies, curry spice mix etc in my box of spices. Maybe I should add a load to some soup? Biggest fear with that is the potential pain should I bring it up.

LiveItUp Fri 19-Jul-13 21:42:39

Yes, rock and eat a spicy soup! Hope that works so your sis can have a baby cuddle before she heads off again grin

CurlyFox Fri 19-Jul-13 22:35:01

What a lovely surprise Waves. Fingers and toes crossed that Acrobat comes soon.

Thumbwitch Sat 20-Jul-13 02:14:36

Oh how lovely to get a surprise visit from your sister and BIL! Have you no access to fresh pineapple? Although there's no guarantee from that either of course.

Glad the gig went well and strong people helped move your stuff around. smile

JaxTellerIsAllMine Sat 20-Jul-13 08:47:04

Morning everyone. Happy birthday for yesterday thumb.

I wouldn't eat the spicy soup. I really don't think it will work. I walked lots and tried every trick in the book to evict my dc. Had to be induced for both!

It's much cooler here today, hoping it is for you too waves. What a lovely surprise to see your family. I take it they don't live same place as you?

Leaving brewbrewbrewbrewbrewbrewthanksthanksthanksenvyenvygrin

auntpetunia Sat 20-Jul-13 09:22:51

Now that's lovely that your sister turned up! Hope acrobat decides to turn up while she's around to help out.

I wouldn't go for the spice might place going down but coming back up......yuk!

Don't do to much in this heat.

I think I will avoid the soup then..... I am SO tired after being awake for 2 hours with contractions/cramps in the night that turned into absolutely nothing. Again.

I haven't seen my sister since she was here for 2 days over Christmas, so has been ages and ages. Just over til tomorrow morning as she has to be back to sing tomorrow evening. It seems she won't be able to visit again til late September so am half contemplating a visit with just the baby at least if my budget allows (unlikely, but who knows....). She came over to meet DS when he was a few days old and was my birth companion for DD so there is history of her meeting her sisters offspring quite early on!

She never came back to live here after uni, and is a flight away so visiting is expensive and obviously involves planning ahead, but she has the strongest bond I've ever known between an aunt and nephew/niece. She had a child free wedding (such a gritty MN topic) with the exception being my two, but as she said it was her day and whilst they couldn't afford, and didn't want it to be a big day for children, she couldn't get married without them there.

I'm going to see if a shower wakes me up, then possibly try to get a few new songs learned...

springytoto Sat 20-Jul-13 10:47:38

... and landscape the garden wink

Is your sister of the toxic variety? [goes straight to the point!]. Please don't be offended - ime toxicity runs in families, to varying degrees. She seems to have been supportive of you from what you say, though...

Poor you with it dragging on like this. Were any potential kidney problems given the all-clear? You probably said but I've missed it.

Very early start for me today, so I'm a bit knacked, too. I did a you last night,waves and painted the front door. It looks TERRIBLE this morning. That'll learn me.

HOpe the songs are relaxing for you today my darling xxxx

Springy. My sister isn't toxic. In many ways she is FAR more sensible than me and detached herself from the parent (TB) -situation, partly by never returning home after uni, and setting up a busy life a long way away. She is also very good at being able to distance herself emotionally, so gets far less upset by things than I do. She is younger than me, and was treated a lot less harshly, so has a different experience than me if that makes sense. We are not amazingly close, and very different personalities, but I think the lack of closeness is related to her coping strategy which is to be distant.

Sorry to hear about the door - I have that sort of thing happen to me a lot. I also get crazy ideas for things that might work from an aesthetic perspective which become awful failures. Like the time I thought that a completely broken tumble dryer would make a stunning industrial-style planter for my garden. Ummmm. It looked dreadful. I'll not be doing anything like that today.

I think I may try some fresh pineapple thumbwitch, no harm in trying, and maybe it will stay down.

JaxTellerIsAllMine Sat 20-Jul-13 11:35:43

Could you blitz the pineapple to a smoothie? Don't try for ice cream it won't set.

Africa at tumble planter. grin

Thumbwitch Sat 20-Jul-13 12:33:16

Jax, autocorrect from arf to Africa?

I wanted to use the old porcelain toilet bowl as a planter but DH "accidentally" broke it while I was back in the UK so no go there then hmm

Thumbwitch Sat 20-Jul-13 12:33:36

(thanks for birthday wishes, by the way! thanks)

springytoto Sat 20-Jul-13 13:37:40

<mind boggles at tumble drier planter>

<I africa'd too>

happy belated birthday thumbwitch

JaxTellerIsAllMine Sat 20-Jul-13 13:40:14

Oh dear. Damn you IPad autocorrect! Arf I say ARF

Apileofballyhoo Sat 20-Jul-13 14:27:40

Read everything waves, delighted for you that you've got through such a terribly difficult time. Well done to you. I hope your little acrobat makes his appearance soon. Ask your Dad to help you (I always ask mine). You are an amazingly strong person. I have a very strong feeling that everything is going to be fine for you and your family of four, not least because of the wonderful Mum. There are many happy bright days ahead in your forever home, full of your and your children's laughter.

Raspberry leaf tea? thanks

MissStrawberry Sat 20-Jul-13 15:50:15

<rushes in to thread>
<speed reads in case she has missed anything>

What worked to bring StrawberryGirl into the world when she was over due was a long walk, curry for tea followed by tinned rhubarb and custard then R & C again the next day. Labour took about 2 days and she was out in 20 minutes of pushing.

I am home now Acrobat so you can arrive! grin.

MissStrawberry Sat 20-Jul-13 16:16:21

Just had a thought - since we know Twunt is reading this as he is such a wanker and a pathetic one at that would you rather PM anyone you want to know you are in labour so that he doesn't find out? You would have to make sure it is someone who you can trust to not blab though or let slip as then he would know and God forbid turn up at the hospital and cause stress and upset.

DonkeysDontRideBicycles Sat 20-Jul-13 17:34:13

Someone I know has initials ARF, that always puts a smile on my face grin.

Glad the gig went well. What a lovely surprise DSis and BIL turning up.

Have a good evening waves it is so warm I might grab 40 winks now.

shiningcadence Sat 20-Jul-13 17:44:19

Hi waves, I've been away for a few days, was expecting to come back and find acrobat had been born but I see he's still hanging in there. Sorry waves, I've forgotten, when is your due date? Btw I think the curries, pineapples etc are old wives tales. I tried everything in the book and nothing worked, they come when they're ready. But I guess no harm in trying, maybe they work for some.

shiningcadence Sat 20-Jul-13 17:44:28

Hi waves, I've been away for a few days, was expecting to come back and find acrobat had been born but I see he's still hanging in there. Sorry waves, I've forgotten, when is your due date? Btw I think the curries, pineapples etc are old wives tales. I tried everything in the book and nothing worked, they come when they're ready. But I guess no harm in trying, maybe they work for some.

LucyTheValiant Sat 20-Jul-13 20:12:05

Good idea about not letting slip to Twunt when you're in labour (as much as we'd all love to know!). Also, if you tell the midwives, I'm sure he won't be let it? He can rock right up to the hospital and the midwives can tell him to fuck right off again. He doesn't have a right to be there, does he? So even if he somehow did find out and decide to turn up, he'd be barred. Might be worth mentioning to the ward that he's not welcome.

MissStrawberry Sat 20-Jul-13 20:18:32

I meant PM someone on here who won't then post on this thread since he is reading it.

Hello everyone smile Still here, increasingly uncomfortable, and was reminded today that DS was 8 days, not 7 days before his due date. That means that as of Monday I will be more pregnant than I have ever been before. Which I think is entirely unfair given the utterly crap pregnancy I have had. I just want it to be over, and for life to recommence really. And I KNOW that I am not yet even at my due date, but I expected acrobat to follow his siblings' example and put me out of my misery a bit earlier.

Thanks for the advice regarding when I go into labour (note to my uterus: yes, this involves you getting your act together instead of pulling these half hearted attempts which merely confuse and now tire me).

He hasn't a "right" to be at the hospital at all, and my doula is very much aware of the changed situation so i am not too concerned really whether or not he is aware.

I spent the afternoon with DSis and BIL, who my DCs really do adore so much. TB had an attack of chest pains whilst we were sitting in her kitchen. I'm sure she isn't putting it on, but to be honest she has been told to cut out alcohol and cholesterol high foods, but was drinking wine with lunch and eating buttered bread. I know I'm being a bit judgy, but if she was that worried, she'd be avoiding that surely? I also had to lay the law down when TB started trying to discipline my DCs in front of me, and to tell them what they were and weren't allowed to do at the beach. To DSis this is "normal" and I think she was probably annoyed with me for raising it. Anyway, I did raise it, and now I think I need some more time apart from TB as she obviously still has no respect for me as a parent to my DCs.

I shall be good at put all those concerns into a box and bury it for now as well smile

Other than that, all was fine with DSis until she mentioned she'd been at a lecture on the new risks of co-sleeping, and started telling me how it the new paper is pretty much conclusive, that midwives are to be banned from recommending or speaking at all positively about co-sleeping, and that if an infant dies of SIDS in a co-sleeping situation, then the UK Chief Safeguarder has said that it will become a safeguarding issue. I told her I didn't want to argue, that I had read the responses to the BMJ paper as well as the paper itself (but I am very very dull like that), looked at the data used in the 5 studies used to prepare the paper, and that I remain of the opinion that it is likely to be the best option for me. I know she is just expressing her concerns, and she has obviously been delivered a fairly scary lecture, but she honestly thinks that I am completely off my rocker for contemplating it. I wish these sorts of things never came up for discussion sad

She is very different from me though. (My theory is that DPs preferred her because she is far more conventional, ordinary, conservative, does things properly, and sensibly etc)

ballyhoo thanks for reading my threads and adding your support here. My dad can't help me practically because died suddenly 2 years ago, but he is still helping me, because I remember the twinkle in his eye when we had great plans brewing between us, and I remember him saying how proud he was of me, just a fortnight before he dropped dead. He had a special jumper he wore to meet DS and DD for the first time, and it is packed up in my hospital bag as it is to be the first thing that acrobat is wrapped in, as opposed to hospital towel or blanket.

Right, I am off to have a bath with clary sage. Whilst drinking raspberry leaf tea and munching on some fresh pineapple. I have boxing up of more emotions to do after the day with TB and DSis. Grrrr to them making me feel, intentionally or not, like a bit of a rubbish mum.

BerylStreep Sat 20-Jul-13 20:56:00

Oh I've just remembered a blush.

When I was expecting DD we had a double glazing guy round to fix some panes. I was due any day, and me, DH and him were having the usual conversation - you know like 'yeah, my wife swore by curry', type of thing, to which I said well 'yeah, I've tried that, along with raspberry tea, and now the only thing left is vigorous sex.'


cue everyone shuffling and looking at their shoes grin

GoodtoBetter Sat 20-Jul-13 21:56:43


Sending you speedy birth vibes, waves

Bogeyface Sat 20-Jul-13 22:31:12

Oh, you have just made me all teary about your dad's jumper, what a truly lovely thing to do! smile

Bogeyface Sat 20-Jul-13 22:31:47

beryl did he not offer? Thats not good customer service is it? grin

Thumbwitch Sun 21-Jul-13 02:18:28

That is such a lovely thing to have for Acrobat - as though your Dad was meeting him too. <<wipes eye>>

Re. SIDS and co-sleeping - I cannot express strongly enough my disdain for people who say a baby who has died as a result of co-sleeping has died of SIDS. SIDS are unexplained deaths. Co-sleeping deaths are usually very obvious - parent rolling on the baby, baby suffocation under bedclothes, baby fallen out the bed onto the floor unnoticed. I have seen all these listed as SIDS deaths and it is, IMO, incorrect and misleading to include them in SIDS stats, and to say that co-sleepers are therefore at higher risk of losing their baby to SIDS.
ACTUAL SIDS, the co-sleepers are better placed to hear if something happens - I co-slept with DS1 and one night I woke in a panic because I was sure he'd stopped breathing - poked him awake and he was fine. Actually he was a very quiet breather, as is DS2, so sometimes poking them to check they were breathing is necessary. And I find that, while I sleep better for having them with me, it's a light enough sleep that I wake up as soon as anything changes.

Your sister has done what she believes to be right in giving you the info; now she has to back off and let you do what you need to do as Acrobat's mum.

Apols for soapbox moment. blush

JaxTellerIsAllMine Sun 21-Jul-13 05:42:17

Morning waves & everyone. brewbrewbrewbrewbrew Been up since just after 4. Ridiculous!

I don't know much about co sleeping & didn't do it with my 2 although their crib was right next to me in bedroom. You seem to know lots about it and I say go with what feels right for you.

Your dsis was trying to give well meaning advice, doesn't sound like she means to question your parenting. Try not to let it bother you. Also she doesn't have kiddies, and we all know that things change once you do!

Happy Sunday. envy

CurlyFox Sun 21-Jul-13 06:34:18

Morning Waves,

I coslept with both my girls Dh worked nights so was never there at night to help with them. I breastfed both of them and found it easier not having to get out of bed. Whatever works for you. How are you feeling today?

TiredFeet Sun 21-Jul-13 06:48:36

waves I love the story about your dads jumper smile

I co-slept with ds. By default really, it wasn't something I was planning to do but I had a c-section and found it easiest to feed lying down but that meant I would nod off when feeding, so I felt it safest to be properly set up for co-sleeping rather than keep doing it accidentally!

Mixxy Sun 21-Jul-13 08:02:31

And the child that is born on the Sabbath day is bonny and blithe and good and gay. C'mon Acrobat!

Meh. Just really quite strong period like cramps today, but no pattern - simply ongoing.

With co-sleeping thing, I ended up "accidentally" doing it with DD especially as she was a pretty difficult baby with severe reflux amongst other things. I figured this time I would be prepared to co-sleep safely rather than risk suffocation, overheating etc. Thumbwitch I feel just the same as you with respect to the distinction between SIDS and other causes. The study my sister was referencing in many cases does not make the distinction. Anyway, I have calmed down completely over it. Given the things she was saying, she was obviously delivered a forceful lecture, and as a paediatric nurse it is obviously a subject of importance to her.

Baking day today - I got selected for the rapeseed oil challenge so we are planning to make cheese scones, chocolate brownies and a baked salmon and oat cheesecake.

My intention is that the baking will distract me from the pains, and that the smell of tasty goodness will entice acrobat out grin

Mixxy Sun 21-Jul-13 12:58:57

Your sister meant no harm. My sister co-slept all her kids. Easy for breast feeding and a real bond maker. Put that out of your mind and get to baking.

DonkeysDontRideBicycles Sun 21-Jul-13 17:24:50

Strawberries from an allotment garden, small but tasty. An unexpected treat.

I don't get 'proper' hayfever nowadays but short bursts of sneezing hours apart. Maybe a short sneezing session and Acrobat will arrive - be heavy handed with the pepperpot seasoning veggies tonight?!

I did do some baking today, although it took ages because I have been having such uncomfortable pains and contractions. The DCs were proper made up though. Cheese and seed scones were a huge hit, but not so much as the baked salmon and chive oat cheesecake. Even made some homemade dressing to go with the salad.

Baking chocolate brownies is the thing to do tomorrow morning. I figure that is an "activity" for the DCs, and also sorts out snacks for a few hours days.....

Thunder has started here, so feeling pretty humid and sticky at the moment. Hopefully I will get a decent sleep tonight, might even try to read a book, but concentration is in short supply still.

Only been sick 4 times, which is a super good day for me. Couldn't manage any music practise, just too ouchy. Hopefully things will ease off a little so I can manage my gigs this week. Or acrobat will arrive tonight so I have a couple of days to get back to normal ready to play on Wednesday/Thursday/Saturday/Sunday.

Starting to feel apprehensive again about the birth and the inevitable happy coupleness that will be so obvious amongst others at hospital. And wondering how I will get home, given I will be getting a lift up there. Probably will have to arrange a lift back and organise car seat collection from my house before that.

pointythings Sun 21-Jul-13 21:32:19

I'd be standing outside getting rained on if we had any thunder - none here until Tuesday, worse luck.

Am glad you had a good day sickness wise, your savoury cheesecake sounds wonderful! I have a killer and dead easy banana cake recipe, let me know if you're interested and I'll pm you it for future reference. Baking is a healing thing.

JaxTellerIsAllMine Sun 21-Jul-13 21:49:29

baking must be done with love and not in a hurry - otherwise, it doesnt taste as good, or worse, doesnt 'work' at all. That is my experience anyway, I have baked in a rush, while in a bad mood and it showed in the cakes. sad

I would your your banana cake recipe, I have one but if yours is easier, Im always happy to try.

We are going on holiday vvvv early Friday morning, so if acrobat wants to say hi to his aunt jax, he needs to get a serious wriggle on! grin

I have a fab 'one pot' brownie recipe, its so easy and always comes out very tasty. Might do some baking tomorrow as Im sort of housebound, got to wait for deliveries which may or may not arrive tomorrow, or Tuesday, but definitely before Wednesday... I do hate waiting around. Patience wasnt something that I was blessed with.

Waves, glad your day was a good one - and to be sick that amount of times, although hellish, must seem like a bit of a reprieve to you.

Not long now.

pointythings Sun 21-Jul-13 22:23:45

Jax I will pm you the recipe tomorrow when I've got hold of it.

Agree with the baking philosophy.... I find baking with my DDs always adds the love.

Allalonenow Sun 21-Jul-13 22:30:22

Ahh Jax someone must have read Midnight's Children to you when you were a babe in arms, for you to have that view of cooking. wink

Hope you get a bit of rest and calm tonight waves, glad you did not go the curry route.

I'd like the recipe too please, especially as once acrobat is out I should be able to enjoy the tasting part of the baking as well as the making smile

allalone I think you have just inspired me to reread that book.

Acrobat has hiccups at the moment, hoping they settle down soon as I would quite like to try to get some sleep.

Allalonenow Sun 21-Jul-13 22:50:47

Sweet dreams waves dear.

springytoto Sun 21-Jul-13 23:03:49

don't forget wet socks if it's hot! wink

themidwife Sun 21-Jul-13 23:19:17

Jacob can I have one pot brownie recipe please? Sounds Yummy! Waves you must just totally stuff yourself after acrobat is born! Lots of time to make up for! smile

JaxTellerIsAllMine Mon 22-Jul-13 06:59:34

Themidwife. Autocorrect? Jax to Jacob? I will pm recipe.

Hope everyone slept well. Much cooler last night. brewbrewbrewbrewbrewbrew

themidwife Mon 22-Jul-13 07:09:09

Ha ha yes! Thanks Jax!! grin

MissStrawberry Mon 22-Jul-13 07:37:10

Good morning Waves and everyone.

Bit cross now as I now have the urge to make my chocolate and prune refrigerator bars and it isn't even 8 o'clock!

springytoto Mon 22-Jul-13 07:51:40

ooh! recipe please Miss - I have both those ingredients.

Hope you're ok today waves xx

MissStrawberry Mon 22-Jul-13 07:51:57

Kate is in labour.

Come on Acrobat!!

JaxTellerIsAllMine Mon 22-Jul-13 08:00:33

yes come on acrobat! Your time is up, get out! grin

PyroclasticFlo Mon 22-Jul-13 08:21:52

Full moon today Waves, hopefully this will be the day that Acrobat arrives, it's an auspicious time and a reminder of all the magical blessings and light shining on you from all of the people who care about you (not least the many people on here).

All will be well, I'm sure of it!


Jux Mon 22-Jul-13 08:27:16

Morning all, especially waves, and most especially young Acrobat (perhaps the heat out here made him think - er no thanks, Better wait until it's cooler!

I'd love savoury cheesecake recipe and the one pot brownies. Actually, I'd love to have waves' brownie recipe too!

CurlyFox Mon 22-Jul-13 08:30:39

Morning Waves I see the royal baby is on its way made me wonder if our mumsnet royal baby acrobat was on his way too????

MissStrawberry Mon 22-Jul-13 08:34:46

Flipping heck Waves! You have to hurry up as if Kate has a boy she might nick your name and then everyone will think you copied her shockgrin.

DonkeysDontRideBicycles Mon 22-Jul-13 09:06:48

Now it's not a contest do let's be reasonable.

COME ON ACROBAT let's be having you!!!!!!

DonkeysDontRideBicycles Mon 22-Jul-13 09:07:40

Sorry waves no pressure at all and breath......

themidwife Mon 22-Jul-13 09:11:51

It's my DD's birthday tomorrow! She might share it with royal baby & acrobat it seems!! smile

DonkeysDontRideBicycles Mon 22-Jul-13 09:17:14

Any party plans midwife? How many candles?

LiveItUp Mon 22-Jul-13 09:18:44

Ha! at no pressure from all of us. COME ON ACROBAT grin

All these recipes sound lip-smackingly good, so rather than lots of pm'ing, could simple ones be posted directly on here please? If not, then please all pm me your delicious sounding concoctions as my DCs break up tomorrow and we will enter baking frenzy territory. Thanks all x

springytoto Mon 22-Jul-13 09:34:20

oh come on, put them on the page wink

Allalonenow Mon 22-Jul-13 09:40:27

I'd love the prune and chocolate bar recipe, if you've got time Strawberry please.

Obsessively checking on acrobats progress down the birth canal :-) more interesting than the future monarchs. Cone on acrobat! Are you actually going to be able to get used to calling him anything but acrobat waves? I know that's his name to me niw grin

BerkshireMum Mon 22-Jul-13 09:55:46

My first thought when I heard Kate was in labour was to look on here for an update from waves!

Come on acrobat!

oldwomaninashoe Mon 22-Jul-13 10:42:43

Acrobats arrival is far, far, more important than the royal heir!

janajos Mon 22-Jul-13 10:44:55

de-lurking to wish you well (and also much more excited about Acrobat's arrival than the (lovely I am sure), new Royal baby)

themidwife Mon 22-Jul-13 10:59:34

She'll be 4! I'm going to tell her all the bunting & cheering is in fact for her! smile

DonkeysDontRideBicycles Mon 22-Jul-13 11:06:47

Happy 4th birthday to her for tomorrow the 21 gun salute might make her jump though.

BoreOfWhabylon Mon 22-Jul-13 11:06:57

Delurking to cheer on the Royal Acrobat! crown grin

Happy 4th birthday for tomorrow minimidwife smile

Well, we have baked some chocolate and cherry brownies, and now I am ready to collapse back into bed!

Before I do so, here are some of the recipes we used yesterday and today:

Chocolate and cherry brownies:

3 medium eggs
200g brown sugar
150g self raising flour
50g cocoa powder
100ml oil
25g chopped up milk chocolate
about 8 glace cherries, quartered.

oven preheated to around 180

So, whisk up the eggs and sugar together, then sieve together the flour and cocoa powder, before whisking into that the eggs and sugar, once that is all mixed in, add the oil.

Pour into a square cake tin lined with baking paper, then over the top sprinkle the chopped up chocolate and cherries. Cook for around 25 minutes before cooling and then cutting up into about 12 pieces.

Seeded cheese scones:
225g self raising flour
1tsp baking powder
50g mixed seeds (we used sunflower and pumpkin)
75g grated cheddar cheese
50ml oil
125ml semi-skimmed milk.

oven preheated to about 220

Mix everything together to make a dough, then divide into 8 balls. Put one in the middle of a greased baking tray, then stick the others around so that they are all touching. Brush with milk and add a few extra seeds over the top. Bake for 10 - 15 minutes til golden on top.

Smoked salmon and oat baked cheesecake

150g oats
6 medium eggs
25 g grated parmesan or similar
500g extra light soft cheese
25g plain flour
100g chopped smoked salmon
2tbsp chopped chives
salt and pepper to season

Oven preheated to 180

Mix together the oats, grated hard cheese and one beaten egg and press into the base of a lined 21cm round cake tin (one with a loose bottom)

Whisk the remaining 5 eggs til thick. Separately mix the soft cheese and flour, then whisk in the eggs. Add the salt and pepper before stirring in the salmon and chives. Pour over the top of the oat base then bake for about 50 minutes.

This is very scrummy served warm out of the oven (we had it just with some lettuce, a home made vinaigrette and some greek yoghurt) but also delicious cold.

Right, I am off for a lie down and to meditate on my uterus, see if I can't get some action going.

MissStrawberry Mon 22-Jul-13 12:21:22

These are ridiculously easy to make. I have made them with white chocolate but they weren't the colour I expected with the prunes turning the chocolate brown. Ones I just made were with a mixture of milk and plain chocolate as I didn't have enough milk chocolate.

Chocolate and Prune Refrigerator Bars.

250g/9oz good quality milk chocolate
115g/4oz digestive biscuits
115g/4oz ready to eat prunes (I use Waitrose tinned in fruit juice.)
50g/2oz unsalted butters

- Break the chocolate into small pieces and place in a heatproof bowl. Add the butter and melt in the microwave on high for 1-2 minutes. Stir to mix and set aside. You could also melt the chocolate and butter in a bowl over a pan of simmering water.

- Put the biscuits in a plastic bag and seal, then bash into small pieces with a rolling pin. (I broke them by hand today. You can have the biscuits as big as you like, you don't want crumbs.) Roughly chop the prunes and stir into the melted chocolate with the biscuits. (If you use the Waitrose prunes they are so soft you don't need to chop them. You just squeeze gently to get the stone out and away you go.)

- Spoon the chocolate and prune the mixture into a 20cm/8inch square cake pan and chill for 1-2 hours until set. Remove the cake from the refrigerator and cut into bars.

I found it wasn't as firm as I would expect but that could be the heat from the weather or my fridge is rubbish.

LucyTheValiant Mon 22-Jul-13 12:21:55

Those recipes look delicious! I may make the scones this afternoon, they sound lovely. And easy!

Enjoy your lie down Waves.

Come ON Acrobat!

Thumbwitch Mon 22-Jul-13 12:25:46

Good luck Waves - remember the opening lotus flower! wink

Come on Acrobat - beat the new Royal baby out!

themidwife Mon 22-Jul-13 12:27:19

Mmmmm! Might have to pop into waitrose for ingredients!!

Jux Mon 22-Jul-13 14:31:02

Oh lovely. They all sound delicious <slurp> Supper tonight is already decided (tarragon chicken to use up the rest of the cream used in gooseberry fool, yesterday), but I reckon if I just make the cheesecake, dh and dd won't complain. Mmmmmmmmmmmmm

Good luck, waves. Thanks for taking the time to post those. Hope you're getting/got a good rest.

I want to try the chocolate and prune bars. My task for tomorrow, should acrobat not appear with the full moon, will be to pop to the shop for prunes and digestive biscuits.....

Also may try some savoury flapjacks, if they turn out ok I will post the recipe

vole3 Mon 22-Jul-13 15:59:48

I'm sure you can google the recipe for flapjacks that uses crunchy peanut butter and 'raw' peanuts which you could make less sweet and more savoury

YoungBritishPissArtist Mon 22-Jul-13 19:49:06

Waves, I've followed your story from your first thread, can't believe the wee babe is nearly here! Never mind the Cambridge baby, I'm waiting for Acrobat grin

Lovethesea Mon 22-Jul-13 20:09:20

Go waves! Surf home Acrobat!

MissStrawberry Mon 22-Jul-13 20:16:06


pointythings Mon 22-Jul-13 20:33:14

I keep forgetting to get the recipe from my drive at work, promise I'll get it and put it on here - it's short and easy.

LucyTheValiant Mon 22-Jul-13 20:58:01

Come on Acrobat! If you want to share your birthday with a king you've got to hurry up...

DonkeysDontRideBicycles Mon 22-Jul-13 21:06:14

Acrobat may prefer his own birthday smile. Put your feet up waves que sera, sera.

Mmm, brownies & scones! savoury oat and salmon thingy! Well I won't publish my baking results but the recipes do look smashing.

I think Acrobat is favouring his own birthday. Back to regular BH this evening, and no sense of anything much happening. Forced down some fresh pineapple, but I am sure I read somewhere that you need to eat 6 entire ones in a sitting to actually make any difference.

DD is ill. Again. So I quite hope that Acrobat stays put a few more days now, so I can get her recovered (and my gigs scheduled for this week out of the way) I have now learned all the requested pieces for Saturday's gig, so what is the betting Acrobat decides to arrive on Friday night?!

Apparently the royal baby is a boy, weighing 8lb 6. My first baby was also a boy, also weighing 8lb 6, so that's enough of a royal link for our family I think.

themidwife Mon 22-Jul-13 22:03:41

That's a relief all round. Acrobat & MiniMidwife can have their own special birthdays!

Bogeyface Mon 22-Jul-13 22:50:55

waves a website I was on some years ago it was agreed that 8 was the optimum number of pineapples! One member managed almost 7 before throwing up massively, I wouldnt recommend it grin

Was following the recipe for the fridge cake when I forgot about the chocolate melting and burnt it. £3.50 worth of Dairy milk down the pan sad

Will try again tomorrow!

Allalonenow Mon 22-Jul-13 23:08:13

Thanks for the delicious recipes, will be making the scones and the prune bars ASAP, I have even got the seed mix already as bought it in error last time!!

Hope you have a calm and peaceful night waves, sweet dreams.

JaxTellerIsAllMine Tue 23-Jul-13 08:18:35

morning all, I will scroll back and read properly when I have more time later. Just dropping off brew then off to get the day going.

MissStrawberry Tue 23-Jul-13 08:20:09

Oh no Bogeyface sad.

Honestly, buy baking chocolate or even the cheap normal chocolate if you want. My kids are fussy and didn't notice the difference when I made it with Aero the first time and baking chocolate the second. Someone I used to know used to buy the Basics chocolate from Sainsbury's and said it was fine for baking.

DonkeysDontRideBicycles Tue 23-Jul-13 08:51:48

Words fail me Bogeyface scandalous waste of chocolate <eyes bar of naughtiness in fridge and wonders whether to risk heating it>.

Hello everyone!
Hope DD is recovering waves.

Midwife was DD up madly early this morning?! Happy birthday to her!

themidwife Tue 23-Jul-13 09:12:14

A massive storm woke me at 4.15 but amazingly DCs didn't wake! It went on for hours! I dropped off again at some point & DD came in at 7 so not too bad! Present unwrapping frenzy & sibling squabbling now over & they're watching Peter Pan while I recover! Hope you all slept ok!
Any twinges Waves?

SpecialAgentTattooedQueen Tue 23-Jul-13 10:46:43

Every time I read this thread (most days) I'm reminded what a wonderful mother you are Waves. Your DC are spoiled rotten! (In a good way) And you take everything you need to do for them in your stride with no complaints to how difficult this pregnancy has been. They're so lucky to have you. flowers

When Acrobat arrives, I just know it'll be a breeze for someone like you. Plus it'll be so good to be rid of constant nausea and contractions!!

Are you still planning on a home birth? I don't know much about them, are you going to inflate the floatie pool? winkgrin

LiveItUp Tue 23-Jul-13 13:32:45

All those recipes sound gorgeous. Will start baking tomorrow once DC are around.

Hope it's cooler for you as you work these last few gigs with Acrobat in residence. Huge storms here too in the night so everything is lovely and fresh today. Happy Birthday mini-midwife

Happy birthday to your DD themidwife

I must confess to being ridiculously emotional today after the most wonderful parcel arrived this morning.....Acrobat is a very very lucky little person as he has 2 amazing blankets to keep him snug. I am so touched by the thought and love that has gone into making these. I promise to include a photo of him wrapped up in them when he arrives. Thank you to everyone who contributed thanks

Feeling wobbly today, about whether I am enough to be a mum of 3, and also having really strong and uncomfortable cramps. About to go for a lie down having baked another batch of scones with DD and her friend this morning, and also made the chocolate and prune bars which are currently chilling in the fridge.

Birth wise, if all these on-off contractions are a sign of a fast active labour, then I don't think I'll have much option other than a home birth, although I am not actually officially down to have one. Apparently I have to have a home visit in advance, which is all a bit late to arrange now, but yes, that would have been/remains my ideal. May ask my doula to find out whether we have time for that to be put in place.

DD much better today, ate breakfast and lunch so that's generally a good sign smile

Must pull myself together and get myself to bed for a bit of a rest. DCs are off out to play this afternoon - I have to go up to hospital for my PICC line dressing to be changed, just hoping the cramping settles as the thought of driving just at the moment is a bit too much.

MinnieBar Tue 23-Jul-13 14:29:01

You're most welcome waves - now Acrobat doesn't have any more excuses for hanging about, so he can come out now wink

JaxTellerIsAllMine Tue 23-Jul-13 14:33:55

Very welcome waves. Lets hope acrobat gets a wriggle on. envy

ClairesTravellingCircus Tue 23-Jul-13 14:39:50

<delurks again> Glad you like the blankets Waves.

I am sure you'll be as amazing as a mother of three as you are of two. Do not fret about this!

Hope you get some rest and that Acrobat makes a swift appearance soon!

All the best xx

springytoto Tue 23-Jul-13 15:04:01

Erm.... if there's anyone capable of just about anything, it's you , dear Waves

I'm amazed you're doubting yourself on this. I think you'd be a good mother to 10. You seem to have 48 hours in every day unlike some of us who seem to have 12 (8 for sleeping in) . You have been unbelievably beleaguered and yet you have done so much in that time. Nothing stops you, it seems.

You are an extraordinary resourcesful person. 3 will be a piddle for you, I'm sure of it.

I'm so glad you like the blankets, waves . you probably won't use them much until October, but the love in them will emanate from them no matter where they are lol.


MissStrawberry Tue 23-Jul-13 15:15:07

Have you seen the crown on the MN baby? grin.

BerylStreep Tue 23-Jul-13 16:00:35

Glad you like the blankets. smile

Thumbwitch Tue 23-Jul-13 16:23:58

So happy the blankets have got to you before Acrobat makes his appearance! And very glad you like them.

Of course you will be "mum enough" - you are already great, your greatness will only increase with an extra baby.

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LucyTheValiant Tue 23-Jul-13 16:33:43

Echoing the others - of course you will a wonderful mother to three! They couldn't ask for a better mum flowers

pointythings Tue 23-Jul-13 17:35:16

Just popping in to check - have got the recipes to hand now, will post them later.

You will be a brilliant mum of 3, waves - haven't you proved yourself already?

Waves - the jump from 2-3 is waaaaay easier than the jump from 1-2 children. Dealing with another DC is much much easier than dealing with full term HG and 2 dc's. I had a 7 yr old, toddler and a newborn and found it a breeze compared to having HG and my first 2 DC's to deal with even in hospital it was hard because of the guilt. 9 months of pg was hell. 2 years of DD (dc3) heaven grin you will be fine.

MissStrawberry Tue 23-Jul-13 18:26:10

I was told 2-3 was easy too but I would say it depends on the ages as I struggled tbh though did have PND and are pretty rubbish. Mine were 22 months and 4years 2 months when the baby was born and it was easyish in the beginning but has been hard for the last year or so.

Waves will do brilliantly though as she has 100s of people to help.

I really believe I wouldn't have had PND or struggled half as much if I had had MN.

pointythings Tue 23-Jul-13 18:54:14

OK waves, banana cake recipe:

Banana cake


10 oz self-raising flour
8 oz caster sugar
8 oz Pure dairy-free soya spread (or butter)
2 or 3 very ripe bananas (the mankier the better)
Juice and zest of one lemon
4 eggs
½ tsp of baking powder
Pinch of salt.

Sift the flour and the baking powder, add the salt. Put the sugar, eggs, spread, bananas and lemon juice and zest into a blender and whizz until smooth. Tip into a mixing bowl.

Fold in the flour with a spatula until it is all absorbed. Pour mixture into a greased floured baking tin. Cook in the oven at 150C until done – this will depend on the tin you have used. A small loaf tin will take about 30 minutes (you will need 2), a 10in. spring form will take 50-60 minutes, cupcakes will take about 15 minutes.

Test with a metal skewer – if it comes out clean the cake is done. Adjust temperature downwards for fan assisted ovens.

Doha Tue 23-Jul-13 19:00:56

Glad you like the blankets Waves--please just don't change the initial of his first name grin.
Haha l am looking at all the nicknames of the "knitters" and trying to match with real names.
Failing miserably.

themidwife Tue 23-Jul-13 19:02:38

Waves, a homebirth visit can be sorted within a day, equipment left etc. phone your community midwife at 830 tomorrow & they'll come same day or the next day. Best to plan just in case eh?

Maybe the arrival of the blanket did it, or maybe it is the fact that I am really busy for the next 2 days, but I are in super-pain land tonight. Have had warm bath, paracetamol, crawled around the garden (stuff what the neighbours think) and am now having the oddest visions of steak, a massive roasted onion, grilled tomato, and potato wedges. This is odd not just because of the HG but because I am a pescatarian (pesky person who doesn't eat meat that walks on land or flies in the sky, but does eat a little fish from time to time)

Actually tempted to contact my doula. Been having major episodes of the shivers. If this isn't "it" it certainly is a damn good warm up. Ow. Ow. Ow.

Oh the pain is like a constant ow-ness on what feels like my cervix, with a vice kind of thing squeezing all around my lower belly and back. And I keep doing the breathing and relaxing but it still hurts.

Orianne Tue 23-Jul-13 20:49:07

Sending you positive vibes Waves x

BettyBotter Tue 23-Jul-13 20:49:31

Good luck waves.

Oh, and call your doula...

wordyBird Tue 23-Jul-13 20:52:47

Call who you need to, waves.
Don't be too brave!
Good vibes from here too..

LucyTheValiant Tue 23-Jul-13 20:54:35

Good luck waves! We're all rooting for you.

JaxTellerIsAllMine Tue 23-Jul-13 20:55:37

good luck waves, hope this is it for you.

call doula and get checked out.

auntpetunia Tue 23-Jul-13 21:06:30

Wishing you all the luck in the world you amazing woman!

pointythings Tue 23-Jul-13 21:10:55

Call your doula and get checked out, this sounds like the real deal!

Go, waves!!!

McPie Tue 23-Jul-13 21:12:37

Good luck waves, I really hope things go quick for you as you have had one hell of a time of it all xxx

Xales Tue 23-Jul-13 21:15:15

Shakes pompoms

MissStrawberry Tue 23-Jul-13 21:17:11

Good luck Waves!!

lunar1 Tue 23-Jul-13 21:19:31

Delurking to say good luck waves

PinkGirlsMummy Tue 23-Jul-13 21:20:15

Have been following your thread but never had anything helpful to Add. You are an inspiration. Good luck xxx

WingDefence Tue 23-Jul-13 21:21:54

Blimey - good luck waves from me and the rest on the JSing grads thread grin

ClairesTravellingCircus Tue 23-Jul-13 21:26:54

Good luck waves xxx

Conina Tue 23-Jul-13 21:28:08

Oh waves, I've been keeping an eye on you since the start - I so hope everything is starting and that it goes well xxx

MrBloomsMarrow Tue 23-Jul-13 21:31:09

Good luck waves ! Does MN do a pride of Mumsnet award, you know, like pride of Britain? If they don't, I think we should suggest it and waves should get the first award for triumph over adversity and just general awesomeness.

Cluffyflump Tue 23-Jul-13 21:34:37

You are so brilliant Waves thanks

Please call your doula as I have a feeling this labor could suddenly jump to full pelt without much warning.
I would say you've been in the latent stage for a couple of days already and your cervix is likely to be very soft (I'd bet you're 3-4 dilated already. Total guess! grin)

I hope it goes swimmingly.
I can't wait to 'meet' your darling, little acrobat xx

BoreOfWhabylon Tue 23-Jul-13 21:36:42

Well said, MrBlooms.

Good luck, waves!

themidwife Tue 23-Jul-13 21:37:40

Honey the doula can't diagnose labour. I'm sure she's lovely but you need a midwife for that. Get kids sorted & ring maternity triage. Good luck - it sounds promising to me!! smile

jasmine3663 Tue 23-Jul-13 21:38:46

Good luck

Allalonenow Tue 23-Jul-13 21:39:58

Oh waves!
Very best of luck to you and Acrobat!!

Mixxy Tue 23-Jul-13 21:45:48

Sounds very promising!

Best of luck waves!

I'm going to give things another half an hour, then will call up maternity if things haven't eased off. Just been horrendously sick!

Doha Tue 23-Jul-13 21:54:03

Oh good luck waves ...hurry up wee acrobat your aunties are waiting,,,impatiently now smile

themidwife Tue 23-Jul-13 21:55:23

If you didn't have HG I'd say vomiting was a BIG warning you're going into labour. Did it feel different? Any show? Have you emptied your bowel too?

LiveItUp Tue 23-Jul-13 21:58:47

Oh Waves, it does sound like it. Get the kids sorted with whomever will be looking after them, and good luck. x

Ooh waves sounds promising! Just delurking to wavr pom poms and wish you all the luck in the world not to mark place oh no flowers

Come on acrobat!

MissStrawberry Tue 23-Jul-13 22:03:17

Oh good luck Waves grin.

themidwife Tue 23-Jul-13 22:03:49

Just think of that massive dinner you can have after the birth!! You can do it!! smile

angel1976 Tue 23-Jul-13 22:08:57

Good luck waves! We are rooting for now now the royal baby is born! grin

angel1976 Tue 23-Jul-13 22:09:18

you, not now... Grrrrrrrrrr

vole3 Tue 23-Jul-13 22:09:26


Xales Tue 23-Jul-13 22:13:20

Are there many places other than MN where you

Xales Tue 23-Jul-13 22:14:46

Oops phone where you can ask about a strangers bowel movements grin

themidwife Tue 23-Jul-13 22:16:55

Ha ha true! gringringringrin

themidwife Tue 23-Jul-13 22:17:36

Mind you I ask strangers on the phone those questions on a regular basis!! gringrin

TiredFeet Tue 23-Jul-13 22:18:51

Hope all is well waves, I'm thinking of you! Come on little acrobat hurry up and meet your wonderful mother smile

shiningcadence Tue 23-Jul-13 22:21:38

Oh waves, sounds like this may be it. Good luck lovely. I know this is going to sound strange but I had an image of you walking out onto some virtual steps with little acrobat in your arms - like Kate & Will did earlier today - and all the mnetters gathered around cheering and applauding you smile

TimidLivid Tue 23-Jul-13 22:21:38

Oh waves we are with you in spirit smile

dementedmumof6 Tue 23-Jul-13 22:22:37

am a long time lurker on this thread, if I was you I would phone the midwife just to be safe as with my 6th and the only one not induced had pains like you and got loose bowel movements and was violently sick(hadn't been sick at all during pregnancy) and dd4 was born 1.5hrs later. Good Luck I'm sure you will be amazing.

Good luck Waves!

MinnieBar Tue 23-Jul-13 22:28:50

Oooh it's sounding promising… here's hoping it means the end of pregnancy and the beginning of a new life!

MN blankets have special powers… wink

nemno Tue 23-Jul-13 22:32:40

How exciting. I am so jealous. Good luck.

springytoto Tue 23-Jul-13 22:36:12

Lovely, this is the time to not be a stoic!

- and to blasted well call the midwife. As pp said on previous page (ahem) you don't want this one making a sudden appearance. Your labour has been grumbling for a few days... so maybe let them know what's happening?

Now do what you're told! (that will probably make you do the opposite - it would me blush )

Watching and waiting with you sweetie smile crown flowers [steak]

MysteriousHamster Tue 23-Jul-13 22:39:24

Good luck waves!

Lovethesea Tue 23-Jul-13 22:45:42

Thinking of you!

Jux Tue 23-Jul-13 22:47:33

Good luck, Waves! Will be thinking of you.

cuckoonest Tue 23-Jul-13 23:15:57

Good luck, Waves. I hope you are with a midwife somehow by now, because that sounds very much like established labour. Thinking of you tonight.

Wishing you lots of luck Waves, I imagine you don't feel amazing right now but you are one of the most amazing people I've come across on here!

mistlethrush Tue 23-Jul-13 23:36:45

Positive vibes winging their way to you Waves!

friskybivalves Tue 23-Jul-13 23:36:51

Ooooh following keenly from Paris. Bonne chance, waves, hope there's space to give birth inbetween all the baking trays and buns everywhere...

Can't do icon thingies on phone but am doing cups of tea and flowers etc in my head!

bunchamunchycrunchycarrots Tue 23-Jul-13 23:49:11

Adding my good luck wishes waves, hope acrobat makes an appearance soon and you finally get the chance to eat whatever you want! smile

Abilee90 Wed 24-Jul-13 00:13:03

Hi waves (waving)
Been stalking to make sure your ok. All the girls and me