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Update on EA

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faulkernegger · 26/06/2013 13:53

I posted some weeks ago about DP's suspicious friendship, and even though we have talked about it (I've said I feel uncomfortable, children have noticed etc) it's still going on.
He has been attentive and loving, and when I asked if we were ok he looked me in the eye and said 'yes'. However, a few evenings ago about 11pm he took his phone into the loo. When he came out I challenged him - why on earth do you need to take your phone into the loo at 11 o'clock at night? to which he replied - I had it in my pocket on the way upstairs. Well he didn't - it had been on the bedside table. So I said - you;re not telling me the truth and I want you to think about why you're not telling the truth.
A couple of days later he took me aside and said he'd made a decision to step back from this woman, because I clearly thought that 'something' was going on. I felt so relieved.
But, having a gnawing feeling still, I did some checking on his mobile phone bill online ( about the only thing he's forgotten to change his password for) and he seems to have called her more often and for longer, since that conversation!

What do I do now? confront again and ask exactly HOW this is stepping back? or, as my sister says, back off, be sweetness and light and give him more time to end it.
I have been for an initial assessment at Relate to see of there's anything I can do about 'me' that will help the relationship, but I feel there's no point if his mind is elsewhere.
Help!

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Inertia · 17/07/2013 14:02

I would insist that , at the very least, the son's trumpet lesson takes place at your house and you will collect him from OW at the front door.

No contact does not mean the same as contact either side of trumpet lessons.

If only DH was as determined about saving your marriage as he is about taking every opportunity to nmeet up with OW...

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captainmummy · 17/07/2013 14:52

Yeah - no contact as long as he can still keep seeing her?

I'd be doing more than 'talking', faulk. He has yet to show any desire to do anything about anything.

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ChipsNKetchup · 17/07/2013 15:00

Hope the talk goes ok. Thinking of you.

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Fairenuff · 17/07/2013 17:09

Oh yes, time to get very, very angry. I would give him an absolute ultimatum now. No contact. NO contact whatsoever. Not even 'bumping into her on the street'.

Or he goes. It's time for him to get off the fence and commit one way or the other. Anything less is just insulting.

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ProphetOfDoom · 17/07/2013 18:12

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Hissy · 17/07/2013 18:46

I'm sorry, but Wtaf? You're PAYING this trollop to teach your SON?

Fuck that! Find a new teacher and let her go scrabble around for a new student!

Tbh, i'd demand a refund of the term's fees as compensation and perhaps it'd be a lesson to keep her priorities straight.

What's more, if the boy had to keep up the lessons, I'D be the one taking him, and i'd glare so hard at her it'd HURT.

Stop that now. You don't pay people to do this shit to your family!

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Hissy · 17/07/2013 18:51

Ah, the DS of this woman is your DP's pupil?

Fine. Lessons stop today.

She has to find a new teacher.

He loses money and a pupil, because he can't be trusted.

Consequences. He needs to see consequences.

You really DO have to get him to move out. He's not taking you at all seriously.

And he'll do it all again.

Cheats cheat.

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captainmummy · 18/07/2013 08:34

How did the 'talk' go, faulk?

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faulkernegger · 18/07/2013 08:59

Can't talk right now - things looking more positive. Laters.

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fluffyraggies · 18/07/2013 10:14

Just wanted to send you strength and best wishes faulk, and i hope things work out happily for you soon.

Have followed your thread from your first post in AIBU and would just like to say you sound amazing and your DH needs deserves a damn good kick up the arse.

If you don't mind me saying :)

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faulkernegger · 18/07/2013 14:05

fluffy - hello and thank you. I re-read that first thread through yesterday - it seems like forever ago.
Latest - The trumpet lesson yesterday should be the last one. He said he'd come straight back (and I had a time limit in mind if he didn't), and he rolled up as promised.
He has been super attentive, and with him actions speak louder than words, so I'm paying attention to that.
The Relate counsellor said now was a time to focus on what we wanted out of the relationship, and how we might achieve it, and I'm waiting for the next opportunity to start that process.
I've told him that I feel anxious when either of us is out of the house, and he has been at pains to tell me exactly where he's going and how long he'll be.
We're not out of the woods yet; It's been a long week since showdown, and I think I've been awake for every painful minute, so I'd like to thank you all for being there, and I'll keep you up- dated. Flowers for you all!

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BerylStreep · 18/07/2013 15:10

Glad to hear you sounding more positive. Make sure or doesn't get twisted to you being anxious. He has destroyed your trust, and needs to take responsibility for that.

Did you ever get that book Not Just Friends? Could you get your H to read it too?

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faulkernegger · 18/07/2013 15:55

I have got the book beryl and am working my way through - it's extremely helpful. If I can get him to read it I will, but I'll have to do it in a way so that he doesn't think I'm trying to 'improve' him. So many times I've wanted to point to a paragraph and say 'this is you!'

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Fairenuff · 18/07/2013 16:15

I'm not so sure.

There is no way he should have gone to the lesson yesterday. You asked him not to but he just big fat went and did it anyway.

And you say actions speak louder than words?

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OrmirianResurgam · 18/07/2013 16:23

"Quick question = all of you who have been through this - did your OHs all beg for forgiveness, promise to put you first, did total NC, and was this before or after you threw them out?"

Yes. Apart from beg for forgiveness. He didn't dare! Wasn't the end of the trauma, just the beginning, but I was able to start the process. He is being vile and unreasonable. His pain is his problem. Yours is more important as HE caused it. I was very resistant to kicking H out but in your case maybe you need to. Sorry Sad

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OrmirianResurgam · 18/07/2013 16:32

Garrghhhh! This is triggering me like mad.

Almost exactly a year since I found out. So sorry you are at this point faulk. Why are they so stupid and self-centred? Grrrr.

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BerylStreep · 18/07/2013 19:14

Orm I remember. Hope things are better now?

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OrmirianResurgam · 19/07/2013 11:14

Hi Beryl, mostly. Had a few months honeymoon period, H didn't really put a foot wrong and I can't fault him since the A, but I started to think about what he did during it and I think I went a little crazy. It can become obsessive and there is a point when, if you intend to reconcile, you have to let it go. I have, almost completely. I still get flashes of anger and resentment but they are few and far between.

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captainmummy · 19/07/2013 16:03

Orm - it must be so hard to put it behind you and move on together, if that 's what you both want. I have a friend who had an affair, her dh found out; they are still together. And seem back to normal. He has been so strong.

I don't know if i could do it. I don't think i could forgive. I don't think it would ever be the same.

Faulk, how are things now?

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faulkernegger · 19/07/2013 16:54

Hi captain - things are calm. Both of us making an effort.

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faulkernegger · 19/07/2013 17:01

Sorry, got interrupted by the phone. I'm still on a roller coaster of emotions, and lurch from sunny optimism to imagining life without DP. I'm also finding it difficult to concentrate - anyone else had this? I got screamed at yesterday by a woman in Tesco car park because I made a mistake, and it was only dd's presence that stopped me from bursting into tears.

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onefewernow · 19/07/2013 17:45

yes, it takes over your life at first.

I think the pattern for reconcilers- I am one- is that once the arguments stop, there can be a bit of a honeymoon period for 3 or 4 motnhs, as Orm says.

After that, though, the anger can return. This is because either they dont admit all, all it takes you that long to admit to yourself that you are not happy with the explanation they gave of the affair.

Or, they revert to the kind of selfish behaviour, bit by bit, which got them to an affair in the first place.

I had both, and it led to him leaving after a year, for a week, and realising he may not get back in. That returned us to Relate for a second stint, where the real work started.

The reason I am saying this is that if in your heart you arent happy with the explanation or actions at this stage, you can- may well- poke down those feelings as you think you have got as far as you can with the truth, or he is promising the earth for the future, which is a welcome distraction to the pain.

But believe me, it does return. So my view now would be to stay strong and get ALL of what you ant now- even if that does mean a temporary split- as it will come back to bite you in the bum if you dont.

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mittensthekitten · 19/07/2013 22:24

I'm glad the lessons have stopped. Does that mean that Z is out of your lives now for good? What is she saying to all this? Is your hubby very, very sorry about his behaviour?

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BerylStreep · 19/07/2013 23:36

Orm glad to hear things are looking up.

Faulk sorry to hijack.

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faulkernegger · 21/07/2013 10:32

We're in a weird limbo place atm - so much talking to do (not just about the A but about how we move on) and little opportunity; so everything is carrying on 'as normal' with this massive mastodon in the room!

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