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Support for those in Emotionally Abusive relationships:22

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foolonthehill · 23/05/2013 18:05

Am I being abused?

Verbal Abuse A wonderfully non-hysterical summary. If you're unsure, read the whole page and see if you're on it.
Emotional abuse from the same site as above
Emotional abuse a more heartfelt description
a check list Use this site for some concise diagnostic lists and support
Signs of Abuse & Control Useful check list
why financial abuse is domestic violenceAre you a free ride for a cocklodger, or supposed to act grateful for every penny you get for running the home?
Women's Aid: "What is Domestic Violence?" This is also, broadly, the Police definition.
20 signs you're with a controlling and/or abusive partner Exactly what it says on the tin

Books :

"Why Does He Do That?" by Lundy Bancroft - The eye-opener. Read this if you read nothing else.
"The Verbally Abusive Relationship" by Patricia Evans ? He wants power OVER you and gets angry when you prove not to be the dream woman who lives only in his head.
"The Verbally Abusive Man, Can He Change?" by Patricia Evans - Answer: Perhaps - ONLY IF he recognises HIS issues, and if you can be arsed to work through it. She gives explicit guidelines.
"Men who hate women and the women who love them" by Susan Forward. The author is a psychotherapist who realised her own marriage was abusive, so she's invested in helping you understand yourself just as much as helping you understand your abusive partner.
"The Emotionally Abusive Relationship: How to Stop Being Abused and How to Stop Abusing" by Beverley Engels - The principle is sound, if your partner isn't basically an arse, or disordered.
"Codependent No More : How to Stop Controlling Others and Start Caring for Yourself" by Melody Beattie - If you a rescuer, you're a co-dependent. It's a form of addiction! This book will help you.
But whatever you do, don't blame yourself for being Co-dependent!

Websites :

So, you're in love with a narcissist - Snarky, witty, angry, but also highly intelligent: very good for catharsis
Dr Irene's verbal abuse site - motherly advice to readers' write-ins from a caring psychotherapist; can be a pain to navigate but very validating stuff
Out of the fog - and now for the science bit! Clinical, dispassionate, and very informative website on the various forms of personality disorders and how they impact on family and intimate relationships.
Get your angries out ? You may not realise it yet, but you ARE angry. Find out in what unhealthy ways your anger is expressing itself. It has probably led you to staying in an unhealthy relationship.
Melanie Tonia Evans is a woman who turned her recovery from abuse into a business. A little bit "woo" and product placement-tastic, but does contain a lot of useful articles.
Love fraud - another site by one woman burned by an abusive marriage
You are not crazy - one woman's experience. She actually has recordings of her and her abusive partner having an argument, so you can hear what verbal abuse sounds like. A pain to navigate, but well worth it.
Baggage reclaim - Part advice column, part blog on the many forms of shitty relationships.
heart to heart a wealth of information and personal experiences drawn together in one place

what couples therapy does for abusers

If you find that he really wants to change
should I stay or should I go bonus materials this is a site containing the material for men who want to change?please don?t give him the link?print out the content for him to work through.

The Bill of Rights
bill of rights here is what you should expect as a starting point for your treatment in a relationship, as you will of course be treating others!!

OP posts:
NiniLegsInTheAir · 05/06/2013 22:23

Yes that was last summer as well Curtis, how a year has flown! Who know what the next year will bring...FW-free for all I hope Smile

ponygirlcurtis · 05/06/2013 22:25

This time next year your life will be different, in a good way - I know it.

AliceDoesntLiveHereAnymore · 05/06/2013 22:27

OMG Nini I missed biscuitgate entirely! That is BRILLIANT! Grin

NiniLegsInTheAir · 05/06/2013 22:38

Grin Whatever keeps us sane, right?

AliceDoesntLiveHereAnymore · 05/06/2013 22:40

Why do I have the feeling that Nini's FW will wander out into the kitchen sometime soon and find some poor hapless jelly baby beheaded with a sharp knife nearby? Grin

NiniLegsInTheAir · 05/06/2013 22:44

Don't give me ideas Alice Wink.

bountyicecream · 05/06/2013 23:15

I think a bag of beheaded jelly babies might be the ideal Father's Day present!

Also wanted to add that there is nothing to be ashamed about nini for still being here. We all know it's not as easy as people think. You can't just say yes he's abusive and then pack your bag and go. In many ways the longest and hardest step is realising that your marriage is abusive and that you want to leave. You've already done that. So now it's just the long road of a thousand baby steps of planning how to leave and putting those plans in place. Which includes waiting for the mortgage deal to finish. And every single baby step is progress even if it doesn't feel like it. So hang on in there.

TheSilveryPussycat · 05/06/2013 23:20

Hi all. Alice's post about touchstones has reminded me of how, during my year getting FW out of my life, I found ornaments and cooking things in charity shops, and hoarded them against the day I was alone with DCat, at the time I didn't know whether I'd be able to keep this house or would have to move. and hid stuff I knew I wanted for myself, like the kitchen scales

Funnyfishface · 05/06/2013 23:40

I'm shaking and scared.

My good friend is very poorly and I have been to see her today with the intention of staying overnight. She lives 40 miles from me. And lives alone. I took an overnight bag. H was fine about me going.

I left home at 10 am this morning. Went straight to see my friend. There has been lots of other friends making meals fir her and taking turns to care for her. She is on very strong pain killers so is sleeping on and off.
I do not get any reception on my phone whilst I am there.
H tried to call me and of course I didn't answer.
When she was sleeping at 4.30 I popped to see another friend then went back from 6-8 to make sure she was comfortable before heading home.
Phoned h to say I was coming home.

Well he has got it in his head that I have been out for lunch with someone. And my intentions were that I was intended to stay over and that I had taken clothes to go out in.
He has got very nasty. I have told him that its in his head. He is being ridiculous. He has followed me downstairs and told me that I can fucking do one. If I didn't stop waving the remote control at him he would shove it down my throat.

I have said I am telling you now I have been with you for 22 years I have never cheated on you and would never but you are scaring me so please go away.
He said you are a fucking liar. He is so angry at me. I am shaking.

Funnyfishface · 05/06/2013 23:41

Is anyone awake

Funnyfishface · 05/06/2013 23:42

Hearts beating like mad

heghog · 05/06/2013 23:51

fff that does not sound good. i am awake.
is he threatening enough for you to need the police?

heghog · 05/06/2013 23:53

he probably does not believe that you have bn with anyone else he is just putting you off balance.

can you go and stay somewhere else for the night?
sorry for not knowing do you have dcs?

heghog · 05/06/2013 23:54

and most.importantly you ok?

Funnyfishface · 05/06/2013 23:54

No he has gone back to bed now.

Heghoghe he is so angry. I haven't done a thing wrong. It's in his head. He has gone through my overnight bag obviously and I had clean jeans undies and smart shoes. So in his mind my intention was not to just sit with my sick friend but to go out with his imaginary male. It's absolute rubbish

BreatheandFlyAway · 05/06/2013 23:55

FFF am also awake and holding your hand Thanks

Funnyfishface · 05/06/2013 23:55

We have our youngest son 18 here. He must have heard. Yes I'm ok.
He grabbed me and told me to stay in bed and answer his questions

TheSilveryPussycat · 05/06/2013 23:56

I'm awake too. I would say ring police on 101 if you can, if poss without him knowing. Then don't be afraid to dial 999 should he kick off, and police should prioritise you.

Funnyfishface · 05/06/2013 23:56

I told him he was making me anxious and that he was scaring me.

He said oh good one. Yeah use that. I'm anxious shit. I've been on ads for anxiety for 6 months

TheSilveryPussycat · 05/06/2013 23:58

However, my knowledge about this kind of situation is entirely derived from MN. The main thing is to Stay Safe.

Standing by.

Funnyfishface · 05/06/2013 23:59

Thank you. It helps. How can you prove your innocence.

heghog · 06/06/2013 00:00

he almost certainly knows it is rubbish. he is probably pissed off that your poorly friend is taking your attention. try not to engage with it as it is ridiculous ( easier said I know).

keep your phone handy. if he is sleeping and you feel up to it you could call 101 to get it logged.

heghog · 06/06/2013 00:02

you can't FFF that is what he knows.
well you could you you could let him speak to ppl who saw you today but he would claim they were lying too.

so I don't think you should try.

Funnyfishface · 06/06/2013 00:02

It's crazy. I don't ever do anything or go anywhere. Except to see my friends occasionally. I am totally isolated since moving away from them 8 years ago.

He on the other hand is always out. Drinking. I really did feel sick when he kicked off.

He said just answer me. I kept saying I'm not answering your questions. It's rubbish. You should trust me

TheSilveryPussycat · 06/06/2013 00:03

As it turned out, mine was never violent (just nasty), however, at the time I was prepared for the possibility. Felt much better when DD (then 20-21) was staying in the house...

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