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Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

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SummerDad · 15/04/2013 22:10

Here we are dear fellas Grin

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KittyAndTheFontanelles · 07/05/2013 15:28

Wow Mini, fabulous gardening! We grow our own too. Smile

Themidwife that well dressing festival sounds glorious. I've never heard of it.

themidwife · 07/05/2013 18:21

Kitty it's great - every May bank hol. Hippy hills website has details!

themidwife · 07/05/2013 18:21

Mini - I thought you'd been to a spin class in amongst your trip to the far side & Titchmarshing!!

BlueyDragon · 07/05/2013 20:25

Sorry for the radio silence, everyone - RL has been busy. Waves to all the veterans and hellos to all the newcomers.

Huge hugs for jynier and themidwife - you are such lovely strong people despite going through so much. The best thing about Operation Yewtree will be that victims of abuse feel more able to come forward and be believed, as no-one will be considered to be above the law any more. At least I hope that's the case.

We've just had the most lovely weekend in Cornwall. The beaches weren't that busy, the sun shone, DCs loved playing in the sand/sea, we had ice creams and cream teas and saw friends and family (DH is Cornish). You know the line from the Elbow song, "One day like this a year will see me right"? They were those kind of days Smile.

KittyAndTheFontanelles · 07/05/2013 20:39

Throw your curtains wide, bluey Grin

I know exactly what you mean Smile

Lovely to hear from you. Yum, Cornish ice cream

BlueyDragon · 07/05/2013 20:44

No pasties though, an unusual native feeding fail.

Your Jamaican food sounds yummy, kitty.

KittyAndTheFontanelles · 07/05/2013 21:06

Oh it was Wink

How are you feeling? Apart from the Cornish buzz Smile

Minimammoth · 07/05/2013 21:18

Gawd I am tired today. Had my thyroxine increased, I thought I was supposed to have more energy. Haven't made much headway on my list. How are others doing on their deadlines?
Lovely views from the far side Midwife, burrits a bit flat. Have you been singing tonight? btw.

themidwife · 07/05/2013 22:25

No singing tonight Mini because I am on call again & need to be in the vicinity & not disturbing the peeps with my blasted phone & pager going off every half an hour. In 2 weeks I will be in London on a mega girly trip with a friend to see the following:- (brace yourselves)

Macklemore & Ryan Lewis (hip hop)
David Bowie Is at the V&A (god)
Depeche Mode (overpaid stripper)

But after that I will sing in the Shire!

Hope the thyroxine kicks in soon. Thanks

Bluey that sounds idyllic - really craving seeing the sea now!

Harriet & Kitty your little ones sound so cute!

jynier · 07/05/2013 22:28

Am so impressed by all of you! Mini - my sister went through the same awful experience 22 years ago; she's fine now! Went back to work and had baby No. 6! Best wishes, x

cafecito · 07/05/2013 22:32

Sad at jynier and themidwife's experiences Sad Sad Sad Brew Bear Thanks

I cannot imagine the enormous reverberations of such horrific experiences so early in life. So crappy that such lovely people have endured this Sad

I had an evil mother, but her worst was physical and emotional abuse, I wasn't sexually abused. She did hook up with a dreadful man when I was 4/5 though, who was that way inclined but I was fortunate to be able to go running to my grandmother at the time, and she refused to let me stay with him when mymother was working, and I lived with her, and then lived with friends. I was never raped per se so I am lucky, nothing ever happened. mY mother was aware of things but drunk and self absorbed and now in denial. She had a breakdown and a psychotic episode (alleging her own parents abused her). My grandparents knew and did nothing though, and my aunt knew and did nothing, and only told me she knew when I was 18 and chain smoking drinking wine in a north London kitchen with her at 3am. hmm. I think there's a different outcome with my sister Sad Angry

cafecito · 07/05/2013 22:35

themidwife- I love all those!!

bluey - hello! Smile

waves enthusiastically to everyone

cafecito · 07/05/2013 22:38

also, I have a friend from school, who was a boarder, and told me her gf abused her from the age of THREE and she has never told her family. she is seriously not okay (now 20s) and her family still don't know. I'm the only person she ever told. I didn't really know what to say or do, but it has so far seriously affected her life. I don't feel it's my place. It's like she's waiting until he dies, for her to be able to start living her life Sad

themidwife · 07/05/2013 22:45

Hello Cafe - what an ace combination eh?! My friend & I even have matching Same Love t shirts for Macklemore & are expecting lots of "aren't they a lovely same sex couple" smiles & nods! Wink

Sorry about your mum & her choice in men. I've realised how important it is not to be your daughter's cool buddy & wave her off to stay out until 3am aged 13 like mine did, but to be a fucking PARENT. No you can't go out with a group of 19 year old lads clubbing & we will go to bed even if you're not back, no I won't go on holiday & leave you home alone for 3 weeks & no I won't put you in a foreign hotel room alone so we can have sex undisturbed & sleep off the hangover all morning! Angry

themidwife · 07/05/2013 22:48

Cafe I think it's so hard to tell until you're strong enough to deal with the inevitable denial. I always thought I was afraid to tell my parents because they would be so upset but the truth is they are incapable of taking any responsibility or showing any remorse for their neglect. Would your friend's parents believe her?

cafecito · 07/05/2013 22:58

I have a feeling, as it was mum's dad.. that mum might know.. but that's a whole other can of worms. friend says it would break their hearts. But yeah, she is so angry, that she is one of the brightest people I know, yet has failed school, had no relationships, lives at home and is very isolated, and has issues and has been medicated for years. I love her to bits, but I feel powerless to help her- I think she should tell her parents, but other than that, I don't know what kind of therapy would help her as such.

WouldBeHarrietVane · 07/05/2013 22:59

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cafecito · 07/05/2013 23:00

my mother shows no remorse for her neglect and abuse (she has changed now) but towards me, no remorse only 'I'm sorry you feel that way' said in between saying she wishes I was dead Hmm

still, whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger -!

cafecito · 07/05/2013 23:02

Blush thanks Harriet. My friend gave me a book when I was expecting DD years ago, mothering without a map ! I think the fear of being like my mother has motivated me to be the opposite, so it's not all bad. I hope. Hmm Smile

On a delightful note, I am recovering from a day of PRs...

themidwife · 07/05/2013 23:04

I thought my parents would be upset but they completely ignored the information. Has she access to CBT or healing? Or even counselling?

themidwife · 07/05/2013 23:07

PRs as in what I think they are?!! Yikes!!

jynier · 07/05/2013 23:18

themidwife - You are still feeling the horror of the experience, aren't you? I didn't even know what was happening to me, really, as I was unaware of the facts of life. My heart goes out to all victims of rape and sexual abuse, especially the little ones. How could anyone do that to an innocent child?

cafe- You, too, have had such awful times in your own life; I am so very sorry!

jynier · 07/05/2013 23:23

Sorry, all! Took me a while to compose post so didn't see anything from 22:48:25!

MrsShrek3 · 07/05/2013 23:42

gulp.
can't say more tbh, just respect to all of you for moving on from the various shit that life has thrown at you. you are the strongest people.

Im here for a while. aspie ds1 has done mahoossive meltdown and says his brain is broken. he wants to die Sad

cafecito · 07/05/2013 23:49

Sad oh MrsShrek - heartbreaking for you, and so difficult, what kind of support do you have with him?

themidwife- yes, PRs as you think they are. A whole 6 hours of them without break. I'm quite the pro. [bleurgh]