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support thread for those in emotionally abusive relationships: 20

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foolonthehill · 14/04/2013 17:02

Am I being abused?

Verbal Abuse A wonderfully non-hysterical summary. If you're unsure, read the whole page and see if you're on it.
Emotional abuse from the same site as above
Emotional abuse a more heartfelt description
a check list Use this site for some concise diagnostic lists and support
Signs of Abuse & Control Useful check list
why financial abuse is domestic violenceAre you a free ride for a cocklodger, or supposed to act grateful for every penny you get for running the home?
Women's Aid: "What is Domestic Violence?" This is also, broadly, the Police definition.
20 signs you're with a controlling and/or abusive partner Exactly what it says on the tin

Books :

"Why Does He Do That?" by Lundy Bancroft - The eye-opener. Read this if you read nothing else.
"The Verbally Abusive Relationship" by Patricia Evans ? He wants power OVER you and gets angry when you prove not to be the dream woman who lives only in his head.
"The Verbally Abusive Man, Can He Change?" by Patricia Evans - Answer: Perhaps - ONLY IF he recognises HIS issues, and if you can be arsed to work through it. She gives explicit guidelines.
"Men who hate women and the women who love them" by Susan Forward. The author is a psychotherapist who realised her own marriage was abusive, so she's invested in helping you understand yourself just as much as helping you understand your abusive partner.
"The Emotionally Abusive Relationship: How to Stop Being Abused and How to Stop Abusing" by Beverley Engels - The principle is sound, if your partner isn't basically an arse, or disordered.
"Codependent No More : How to Stop Controlling Others and Start Caring for Yourself" by Melody Beattie - If you a rescuer, you're a co-dependent. It's a form of addiction! This book will help you.
But whatever you do, don't blame yourself for being Co-dependent!

Websites :

So, you're in love with a narcissist - Snarky, witty, angry, but also highly intelligent: very good for catharsis
Dr Irene's verbal abuse site - motherly advice to readers' write-ins from a caring psychotherapist; can be a pain to navigate but very validating stuff
Out of the fog - and now for the science bit! Clinical, dispassionate, and very informative website on the various forms of personality disorders and how they impact on family and intimate relationships.
Get your angries out ? You may not realise it yet, but you ARE angry. Find out in what unhealthy ways your anger is expressing itself. It has probably led you to staying in an unhealthy relationship.
Melanie Tonia Evans is a woman who turned her recovery from abuse into a business. A little bit "woo" and product placement-tastic, but does contain a lot of useful articles.
Love fraud - another site by one woman burned by an abusive marriage
You are not crazy - one woman's experience. She actually has recordings of her and her abusive partner having an argument, so you can hear what verbal abuse sounds like. A pain to navigate, but well worth it.
Baggage reclaim - Part advice column, part blog on the many forms of shitty relationships.
heart to heart a wealth of information and personal experiences drawn together in one place

what couples therapy does for abusers

If you find that he really wants to change
should I stay or should I go bonus materials this is a site containing the material for men who want to change?please don?t give him the link?print out the content for him to work through.

The Bill of Rights
bill of rights here is what you should expect as a starting point for your treatment in a relationship, as you will of course be treating others!!

OP posts:
butterflymeadow · 17/04/2013 23:42

Oh yes, and Bernard gave a good laugh too!
I am going to bed. Failing miserably on my resolution to be in bed by 11.
Night all.

minkembra · 17/04/2013 23:45

Hey all. tis well said. hope she gets the message.

I am [happy] because dsd said something really nice to me.

minkembra · 17/04/2013 23:48

butterfly is working it out not what this thread is for?Smile

And fi i liked that positive switch too.

Bernard is being remarkably well behaved tonight.

Colin hope you are having a great night out.

FairyFi · 17/04/2013 23:58

had the most amazing spa today and feel wiped out physically having been pummelled by bubbles into submitting to total relaxation.. but Mr McAvoy came on the telly and I'm hooked (although I think the film is a bit rubbush).

More stunts than story.

I was talking to a friend recently about famous fancies and she thought someone I was impressed with was arrogant and pretty narc really, just made me think what a worrying thought! That perhaps I just can't see that, or actually, worse still am attracted to it!!! not attracted to anything right now, oh apart from James that is, but is he too?

I wonder how Bernard is today, and whether he has been suitable punished for misdemeanors, ha!

bountyicecream · 18/04/2013 00:05

fi Who's your famous fancy then? Let's see if we think he's a narc. I too worry about having a poor Fw radar in the future.

Hope you 're groomed and gorgeous now post spa day and not drooling at James

I tell you who I hate hate hate that most people seem to go for (that I work with anyway) and that's Mark Wright of dubious TOWIE fame. I find him so arrogant that my skin crawls

FairyFi · 18/04/2013 00:15

James!

I really can't stand to watch any more of the TOWIE s. They all seem so up themselves and hapless. I think the one where [in the salon] one was slowly dawning the realisation that the sun and the moon were two completely separate entities ... whoa! Wo! Wot! Really!?

Hmm they thought that it was just the sun looking different at night???? I turned over.

The guy that I recently spoke to friend of, as I thought him hilarious and hadn't considered any side to was Matt Lucas, definitely not a famous 'fancy' tho. so then I was wondering about famous fancies, James, and thinking he does seem a lot of a bad boy, right? full of himself? maybe?

Who esle Bounty? try another I migth know

minkembra · 18/04/2013 00:17

Oh Bernard Bernard bad Bernard! I have only just found out about something he slipped into a thread last nightBlushBlush but also Grin

[[http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/1731720-Fuck-fuck-fuck-Help-me-please-I-am-broken here] check out Tuesday at about 22.16.

Honestly what am i to do with him??

That thread and several similar just now are doing my faith in men no good at all though.

Still i suppose that at least Bernard has a GSO.

minkembra · 18/04/2013 00:17

try that again

FairyFi · 18/04/2013 00:17

still tingling all over... tis lovely feeling for sure, and no grooming required any more, IFGWIM Blush

FairyFi · 18/04/2013 00:21

afaik FFS! What nationality is Bernard?

FairyFi · 18/04/2013 00:22

GSO [what]?

minkembra · 18/04/2013 00:32

Damn him that should have been gsoh.

I don't know what nationality Bernard is as his accent is very unconvincing hard to place. sometimes he sounds French. but perhaps as he was suggesting tiny thongs on that thread he is Australian Grin

bountyicecream · 18/04/2013 00:34

I'd never really considered any 'side' to Matt Lucas either (chuckling a bit at even thinking of any vague possibiliy of fancying him sorry matt )

Yes I'm with you on the TOWIEs, geordie shores, made in chelseas all being irritatingly thick.

Hmmm other famous potential FWs - Tom Cruise (deffo), Elton John (again not exactly dreamy material), most footballers (possibly excluding Beckham but then there was the alleged Rebecca Loos affair years ago - I know an affair doesnt' make you a FW)

I think Ewan McGregor and Justin Timberlake seem lovely though.

bountyicecream · 18/04/2013 00:35

Naughty bernard running amok through the relationship boards. I think he sounds a bit 'Borat' like so maybe Kazakhstani?

FairyFi · 18/04/2013 00:36

Grin Grin whats afaik then? and for all I know? i figured GSO was another reprehensible misdemeanour.. totally missed the point of 'tiny thongs' ah ha.. even more tired that I realised...

have to slide off my perch now.. sleep is ....

FairyFi · 18/04/2013 00:39

clawing way back to agree dreamily of Ewan... and the FW list nodding. so whot bout James, you think FW? go on I can take it.. I need to know before rushing headlong into ... with him!

minkembra · 18/04/2013 00:45

Afaik as far as i know.

bountyicecream · 18/04/2013 00:52

James - cocky but not a fw IMO ( and def dream material)

But I never had chap who used to be on with Alan Carr, Justin someone, as a fw but he clearly is after that court case. Not that I've ever fancied him. He may ge straight but he's about as fanciable as matt lucas.

bountyicecream · 18/04/2013 00:55

Chris moyles is potential fw too. Most the ones I'm thinking of are also v unattractive. Must be some hotties too.

Anyway must go to bed. Am aware I'm filling the thread with pointless drivel and wasting my time too.

minkembra · 18/04/2013 00:59

My fault fi was bit out with the time should have said 22.21. Still the op seemed to like the underwear advice so all well that ends well.

Sknetjibg though?? Swedish? Perhaps. Thats what comes up first if i type in s k. not skin or skip or skim but Sknetjibg. Obviously.

James mcavoy? He is absolutely lovely about his gf who herself lovely and with spectacular eyebrow control. Seems ok to me.

I don't really do famous although i suppose Alexander Armstrong would be getting it as they say. I used to fancy ewan's uncle denis Lawson (but not as red leader).

Anyway enough. Bernard needs his beauty sleep.

FairyFi · 18/04/2013 08:25

chris moyles out and out fw, never fancied, in Matt's category there!

I am relieved to hear of shared opinions of James, yes he's cocky, thats what worried me I think, what lay beneath. I think its a good wasting of testing out my radar theories, to see how they are working not but we seem pretty much in accord.

Yes the Justin thing! blew me out the water, I watched loads of his stuff, never spotted anything.

I am feeling decidely like I need an anorak and a notebook with all this 'spotting' going on - a bit grim FW Spotter!

FairyFi · 18/04/2013 08:28

Wasting ???? I have no excuse atall, this is my internal preemption going skewy!!! (If this was Word, that would be underlined in red I think).

WAY OF

TheSilveryPussycat · 18/04/2013 09:22

Justin Lee Collins does someone mean?

minkembra · 18/04/2013 10:37

I never liked him jlc. (i also never liked jimmy saville but then who did?)

Sir Sean connery fw. i suspect piers brosnan but with no real reason. Think i saw one interview years ago where he said something unnerving.

George galloway strongly suspected fw.
Cannot think of anyone else.

On the online dating front my radar is rejecting ppl on the most spurious grounds. (ppl called Rod or Jon, anyone who likes motorsports or mentions a games console of any kind) think i may not really be ready yet. don't have time or energy but have also realised that a date with me is going to be like a job interview crossed with being interrogated by Cracker.

I have now accepted though that i am of an age where i may have to accept that a lot of men play golf.

TheSilveryPussycat · 18/04/2013 10:53

Interesting and useful rejection strategies there min. I wouldn't reject a Jon, but would a Rod (but presumably name connotations vary with age of on-line daters?)