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Dating thread no 49

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JulietteMontague · 01/04/2013 15:17

All daters welcome here.

OP posts:
ohmyrainydays · 04/04/2013 10:18

Yes it's the same one. I will be careful but i do really like him already.

lubeybooby · 04/04/2013 10:21

Rainy I agree with OWW about your date today... hope you have a good time and all is ok though.

Pom - laughing so much at the mexican accent, omg. Oh dear.

Kin and Pom It is indeed me with the one sending long texts... I don't have a bad feeling about him though or anything like that, just his texts are novel like in length. A great read though. Refreshing that he has a very good grasp of English!

I'd prefer it if he sent those long ones as emails though as it would be easier to follow, I have the crappiest phone in the world with a tiny screen and it is difficult to follow.

If anything, my concern about him is that he may want more than fwb. He does seem to be going all out to impress me and some things he says are quite wistful and romantic. I'd LOVE that if I wanted a relationship, but as things are at the moment, I look at them and think... DUDE! I just want a date and a shag... you're onto a winner already... you don't have to impress me this much! I suppose it's kind of nice that he's wooing me a bit anyway though.

EternalRose · 04/04/2013 10:27

Ohhhh movingforward123, I can't tell you how much that book was written for you, and pretty much every women who has a history of going for men, with substance abuse problems, is emotional unavailable, angry and has commitment issues.

It all stems from the fact that we ourselves get our excitement from 'helping', which is why Robin strongly suggests going for the 'boring' man. The 'boring' man is usually without drama, chaos, or any such issues, he is usually very kind and dependable, whereas the bad boy who brings 'uncertainty, usually brings 'excitement' but is normally carefree and irresponsible. She explains that the excitement comes from there constantly being chaos, or a problem with something and for women who love too much, this just sends us on heat! (subconsciously). Women like this always want to 'help'.

Oh, I cant thank this woman enough, really I cant. It's a bestseller, and it really resonated with me. She does talk a lot about women who have come from homes that have been toxic in all senses of the word, and that our relationships with our parents has led to the reason why women act out their relationships in this way. Our childhoods doesn't necessarily need to of had physical, or verbal abuse but it could be the dynamic that occured during your childhood. For example, you may of had a dad that would have preferred a son over a daughter, so you tried your hardest to get his attention etc etc. Or you may of had a mum/dad that was an alchoholic. She explains it all really well.

EternalRose · 04/04/2013 10:30

Oh and I bought it off Amazon for about £6

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Movingforward123 · 04/04/2013 10:37

It defiantly sounds like something I need to read! The only bit I'm not sure about is if I love too much? But all the rest of it sounds relevant! Especially the bit about the 'boring' man, as I always associate nice with boring! And I seem very turned on by assholes! I think I will order it Wink

KinNora · 04/04/2013 10:40

I read Women Who Love Too Much too, after seeing it frequently recommended on the Relationships board. Parts of it certainly resonated with me, I'm a dyed-in-the-wool rescuer, helper, whatever you want to call it and find it very hard to keep my urge to always make things better for others under control. Parts of the book irritated me but then I'm not an enormous fan of navel-gazing, American therapist speak. Overall I think it's worth looking at if you think you have a pattern of seeking men who 'need' you.

Lubey what would you say if he wants to see you on a regular basis ?

Scrazy · 04/04/2013 10:45

Lubey maybe he wants to make a connection first, but he did read your profile where you have explained your circs so that carn't be right. You will find out more when you meet, as the guidelines say no. 3.

Pom, the mexican accent made me lol.

Hope the dates go great today and I'm looking forward to hearing all about them.

EternalRose · 04/04/2013 10:47

I was a bit unsure about the title as well, but it becomes clear once you read it, yep me too about the nice and boring thing. When I do eventually start dating again, I am looking for a very nice, dependable man with no drama.

Kin - You got it spot on, before, I felt the need to make other people's problems better. I am a BIG helper and I am going into a helping profession as well Hmm She also mentions that social workers, nurses, psychologists etc are full of women from toxic homes! I just don't want to help anymore men who have 'issues' anymore...

And lubey hun, I hope you don't mind me asking. How comes you dont want a relationship? Are you just too busy for that right now?

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KinNora · 04/04/2013 10:56

Rose - yep with me, helping profession, difficult (in parts) upbringing, with a great deal of it centred on keeping a volatile father happy, she got me bang to rights, although I married exh who certainly wasn't at all needy, pretty much as a reaction against Yorkshire Pudding who was as needy as Needy McNeedy from Needsville USA and who I loved to bits - look how well that all worked out !

KirstyWirsty · 04/04/2013 10:59

Boo .. TheBoy has had to cancel has a dissertation meeting with his tutor .. Will need to wait till I get back from holidays (off to tenerife tomorrow with DD) Grin

Movingforward123 · 04/04/2013 11:03

Ok I've juat ordered it on eBay for £2.99 on a buy it now Grin looking forward to getting it

KinNora · 04/04/2013 11:07

Kirsty that's a shame, enjoy your holiday though.

EternalRose · 04/04/2013 11:08

ha, I shouldn't laugh but Needy McNeedy from Needsville...Grin

Moving, bargain!

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lubeybooby · 04/04/2013 11:09

Maybe scrazy

Kin if I was in a different time and space I'd adore it... but not now. Regularly as a fwb yes but not anything more. Annoying really as a couple of years ago I'd have killed for messages like his.

I text him asking him to email if he wanted to send in depth messages rather than texts. he text straight back asking if I was free for a phone call. He's overthinking this so much!

I simply do not have the space in my head to overthink or have long intellectual conversations.

Well, over dinner I can, when I've set time aside for the date and can relax a bit... but beforehand I just want to keep it to what time we are meeting and where!

lubeybooby · 04/04/2013 11:11

and that ^ is why I can't have a relationship. There just isn't room in my life apart from a pre planned night here and there and a text or two in the week.

EternalRose · 04/04/2013 11:20

Ahhh I see now..

He has probably got worried now that you said to email, but I can see why you said it, having to scroll down lengths and lengths of writing when you are just on the phone! It will make you cross-eyed! ha.

KinNora · 04/04/2013 11:22

Lubey - Sod's Law, innit ? I suppose in a way that kind of behaviour can be comparable to the man who keeps making inappropriate comments when asked not to, it's a case of either not listening to or disregarding what you've said you want. I hope he gets the message.

Time to put my foxy date clothes on, going with my black dominatrix-esque boots and a cleavage-neutral dress. I feel a tad nervous.

lubeybooby · 04/04/2013 11:22

Yeah my phone has a really tiny screen too. My poor old brain is frazzled enough thanks without reading war and peace in an inch square box! :o

lubeybooby · 04/04/2013 11:24

Kin I don't think he's like that... hmm could be wrong I suppose but I don't think so. I'll send him a pof message later and then we'll see what happens after that.

KinNora · 04/04/2013 11:29

Lubey perhaps he's just terribly enthusiastic about you and can't quite believe his luck. I think you probably have an extremely impressive Twat Radar.

lubeybooby · 04/04/2013 11:33

Yeah he isn't setting the twat radar off. (yet) I just think he's keen to impress and be seen to not just after one thing because he knows I don't just want to immediately shag. I'll clear this up for definite though later with him. Just to make sure.

Scrazy · 04/04/2013 11:42

Lubey, I get you not wanting a full blown relationship. I'm not sure I do either, it can get lonely when DD is away but then again it's nice having no-one making demands on my time. But there are many uni holidays and I'm always busy socialising during them, together with working full-time. I just want someone to meet once a week.

lubeybooby · 04/04/2013 11:46

In other news, I have managed to get my website to be the top google hit for ALL relevant search terms :o

Fuck me that was hard work. Celebrating tonight! :o

KinNora · 04/04/2013 12:06

I quite agree, I'm another one who doesn't actually want a relationship, just someone who will sex me up and make me laugh, not necessarily at the same time but I do like a certain amount of humour in the bedroom.

And for those of you who remember The Young Ones, in my best Vyvyan impression - 'I'm going to be violently and copiously sick' - I'm on way to meet Showbiz, wish me luck, I'm going in.

EternalRose · 04/04/2013 12:14

Congrats lubey, that's great news.

And good luck lubey, lots to read this evening then.

Right, I am off to soft play. Wish me luck. Last time I went, I got my heel stuck in the frame, must remember to go on the frame barefoot this time

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