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The Brave Babes Battle Bus - Boinging Into Spring, With A Dance And A Sing!

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Mouseface · 16/02/2013 20:58

Hello, tis me, Mouse and I'm one of the regular travellers on this Bus!

This is a Bus for drinkers, the completely sober, those fighting to stay sober and everyone in between! No matter what, you're welcome here if you feel you don't like the way you drink anymore, or you're worried for someone else.

Take a seat.

You'll be listened to, looked after and maybe (if you're lucky), slapped with our resident Squid, Barry Grin whom I'm sure you'll meet in time!

So, what have you got to lose by posting? What have you got to lose by coming to say hello and telling us why you don't like the way you drink anymore?

And, if you'd like to see where we've been so far HERE IS THE LAST THREAD

And the reason we're ALL here in the first place, the first ever thread is ALL HERE

See you soon Smile xx

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LRDtheFeministDragon · 14/03/2013 10:46

Morning my loves. Smile

Sorry, got caught up in life and haven't been on for a couple of days. I had a little wobble but was good again yesterday. Lots of ticks on my calendar for March that are keeping me on the straight and narrow!

I don't have kids, but I totally agree with lemony. Several of my good mates are single mothers and they are absolutely fantastic parents with children who are obviously happy and doing well. Don't let anyone make you feel bad about being a single mum!

Sending good strong thoughts to you, ma and clutter, and ma I'm crossing my fingers about your work problem. If need be, can you tell them you are having personal problems? It is embarrassing to do but might feel better once they understand there is some one-off stress you are dealing with.

aliasjoey · 14/03/2013 14:25

welcome dolly

obrigada are you replacing the alcohol you would usually have drunk with other drinks? you're not dehydrated are you?

obrigada · 14/03/2013 14:42

Never thought of that Joey, that could well be the reason Blush.

guggenheim · 14/03/2013 15:10

Hi babes

clutter (hugs) Poor dd! Good for you clutter for being sober, any decisions you make are yours to make, not seen through the fog of a hangover. I have sympathy for your dd because I was bullied by my stepfather- he just put me down constantly and my mother always went along with it put the boot in too. The consequences are that he's a horrid old man who everyone avoids and no one likes. I'm fine.
Does your dh have any insight into it? Does he understand that he's bulling her? If he has the ability to understand what he's doing then maybe he would consider parenting classes or mediation so that he can change his behaviour?

Hope you are ok clutter. Good for you for spotting what's going on. x
P.S. Why are men such twunts?

jesuswhatnext · 14/03/2013 18:08

afternoon! welcome dolly, hope your meeting went well!

MA, i have been a single mum, best thing that happened to us was dds df buggering off - i took my time to heal, created a calm warm home for us both and look back at that time with thankful thoughts! sounds bloody easy, was hard at times but the 3 years we had alone are as precious to me as the family we have built with dh.

ohcluttergotme · 14/03/2013 18:15

Evening lovely, lovely babes, thank you for all kind thoughts.

Green how are you feeling? I so get where you are coming from with being fed up with yourself that is precisely where I was last September when I found the Bus, the whole getting drunk, hungover, shame routine makes you weary, hope you are not being too hard on yourself sweetie (( ))

Libertine Maybe all the break-ups are in part due to people being bled dry with mortgage, childcare, petrol, gas, electricity etc etc. I feel all of the above have put a huge strain on my relationship. I feel shattered with situation and know my dh will fight and fight to keep us together but I feel I have been here before...and before. Things change momentarily then before you know it you are back where you started and just feel so pissed off. How did your dog walking go? I work as a nurse and remember reading an article about a nurse who gave up to be a dog walker and said it was the best thing she ever did, great job, more money so really hope it works out for you.

Curry thank you for kind words and hope you found speed and clarity with what you were doing today! Smile

Welcome Dolly glad you found this fab bus and hope it/we can offer you support. How did your meeting go?

Obrigada Day 13 is amazing! Do you have a plan or ODAAT?

Lemony Sorry that you had to go through a difficult time with your own son, was it your son's df or step-f who was being bullying towards him? Thank you for your lovely kind words, I was a single mum with dd after getting the strength after having her to leave an abusive relationship and always thought if i had another Id love to do it properly with right guy and all that, suppose I felt like a bit of a failure that here I may be again. The way you described your partners behaviour towards your ds is how I feel my dh is towards dd.
I loved your description of your family being The Three Musketeers Smile

LRD Well done on getting lot's good days ticked off, hope that gives you the strength to get more and more

Guggs I don't think he does realise how is behaviour is to my dd. I think he thinks he is being a good parent and she needs firmness. I think his dm was quite strick but then she would also have given love and nurture too which I don't think he does so he comes across as being harsh, unfair, overly strict iyswim? I'm so sorry you had such an awful experience with step-f and dm, that is so not the experience I want my dd to have. Sometimes my dh will treat her in a way i don't agree with and i think ami just as bad as him for letting him? He suggested counselling for us so I am sure if it meant us trying to make it work he would go to parenting classes. I just don't know if I want to but not sure if I should be trying to make it work?

Mouse How has today bee sweetie, hope little mouse been ok and your hormones have not been driving you too crazy (( )) hugs to you lovely mouse x

Purple Hope things getting better for you, did you manage to get all outfits & things organised for dc. I will be glad when red nose day, it feels like it has been going on and on and so much expense!! Confused

Wishing all babes strength tonight

Day 33 for me but i am actually a little scared at what NOT drinking is doing...I'm starting new job in 4 weeks and thinking of leaving my dh!! Sometimes easier to just stay where you are??

jesuswhatnext · 14/03/2013 18:31

clutter - in AA there is a saying, 'the good thing about being sober is that you get your feelings back and the bad thing about being sober is that you get your feelings back' - i wonder if my emotions were stunted for many years by my drinking, certainly, getting sober has bought huge changes in my life, mainly because i can see with clarity now, not through fog!

guggenheim · 14/03/2013 18:50

Hi clutter, you sound a little clearer and brighter now. Hope so anyway Smile Yeah, it was shit but it was a very long time ago. I ignore my step father because he took advantage of being in charge and my mum is bonkers Mcbonkers. Add my real father (twunt) into the mix and it's no wonder I've ended up on the sauce!

Hope you didn't mind me asking all those questions,bet you've thought it all through anyway. What you feel and what your dd feels is much more important than what he feels, sounds like he's pushed it past the point where it could have been sorted out. I wasn't for a minute suggesting that you are colluding with him though! Absolutely not. Just sending best wishes to you and ma. Look after yourself lovely x

ohcluttergotme · 14/03/2013 19:08

Gugg, absolutely don't mind, it helps me to make sense of situation to hear other people's perspective. I do sometimes think I am colliding, it feels complicated to explain but there are times (many) when I don't agree but think "maybe it is because I'm too soft" maybe he is right but in my heart I don't agree. I do often question myself & feel am I letting my dd down. Its so hard & people I've spoken to in RL all say they have experience this when they're children we're teens & either step-f or df were harsh on their teens.
I suggests to dh about parenting classes & he said he is happy to do anything & everything to keep our family together. I can't help but be cynical tho as I've heard this before Hmm
Thank you for advice & support x

determinedma · 14/03/2013 20:18

Wow, have missed a lot. So many people struggling with relationships and yet finding time to be nice to each other and support each other. The work thing blew over..I was mega-stressed and overreacted but CEO was OK. He's a kindly person but bloody ineffectual as a boss. Just as well really - a sterner boss might have reacted differently. I wish our old CEO was back - I liked him so much.
Nothing much new or better to report except I am not drinking tonight. 50% success rate so far this week. Better than the usual 100% failure. Have to go and ice fairy cakes for red nose day....

Mouseface · 14/03/2013 21:16

Evening, tis me, Mouse

Just popping in to say that it does get better, life, love, and everything that goes with it..... kids, money, exes, cars, leaky roofs, all of it.... it gets better.

It gets better still when you're sober but that has to come when you're ready. When it's not so tough maybe? Maybe not.

I'm sorry that so many Babes are struggling right now.

Clutter - today has been hard. Nemo has been pushing my buttons but I feel scared and emotional about September so rather than letting him get to me, I'm trying to justify my reasons for telling him no, why, because etc..........

I want to be more patient and calmer. I need to give him as much time as I can now so that when September comes, he will understand things more, better, we'll have learnt how to communicate with each other better. Understand it all..... maybe.

Anyway, Ma, you are in my thoughts all of the time. I have so much love and respect for you, I really do. I hope that one day you'll find your beach, your air to breathe, your space. Keep going. I'm glad you didn't get sacked, I wish your old boss was back too. xx

I need to go, be back in the morning.....

I'm so tired and my head is FULL TO POPPING!!

Sorry not to NC back and welcome to any new Babes I've missed.

Night all xxxxx

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ohcluttergotme · 14/03/2013 21:20

Night night brave babes, tomorrow is a new day, hopefully brighter and better for us all.

MA glad that your work situation has worked out, that must be a big relief. This red nose day is going on and on, hope your fairy cakes work out lovely.
Mouse sorry things so hard with neno, but good attitude to think you are doing this, being like this to help and prepare him for school in September. As you said things will get better
xxx

Mouseface · 15/03/2013 10:30

Morning, tis me, Mouse

Thank you Clutter - it's going to be hard because they don;t want me with him at all when he goes across. It's fair enough because the second I set foot through that door, he'll think I should be there all of the time. I get it, he doesn't. And therein lies my worry and problems.

Quick post as I need to go and get sorted for school. Be back later.

Ma - thinking of you, and you Clutter. xx

Venus - are you around lovely, I'm really worried about you and I'm not sure when you last posted because sleep deprivation is killing my brain cells! Grin

Bye for now, be brave and safe babes.

Purps - you okay? xx

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PurpleWolfe · 15/03/2013 10:56

Hi Mouse. No, not doing OK. Being pathetic and letting the recent occurrences reinforce the 'can't trust anyone' shitty attitude I have. I'll recover soon but just wallowing for the moment. Clown outfits for the boys made me smile this morning though thanks Clutter Am hoping the squeaky noses drive the teachers insane today! Bad Wolfe! xxx

Lemonylemon · 15/03/2013 10:57

Morning, morning.....

clutter it was DS's bio Dad who was like that. That's why we had to leave. DS's step-father, although he didn't have any children of his own, tried very hard to help DS and to teach him things like making his own bows and arrows, bird spotting (esp. birds of prey), all things from the "natural" world to counteract the "material" world.... Does that make sense?

ma glad things got sorted with your boss and you're back on track.

mouse ach, you poor thing, so much on your plate lovey.

WW kicking vibes to you all this weekend. I have much to do this weekend, although I'm just not in the place to not have a glass or 3 of wine... Sad

aliasjoey · 15/03/2013 11:05

morning babes hope everyone is doing okay... sorry not to read back, have a rotten cold and only just doing all the stuff that has to be done. purple talk to us lovely?

determinedma · 15/03/2013 18:31

Hey all. What plans for the weekend?
Spring cleaning and rugby here I think. After a couple of reasonable days, dh back in snarly mood. Has the heating on full blast PLUS two portable heaters as says he is cold. House is like an oven.
Looks like being a fun weekend - not

ohcluttergotme · 15/03/2013 19:18

Hi MA, sounds like your dh is coming down with something...could this be part of the reason for his behaviour?
My dh has said he is going to go to parents classes, couples counselling & anger management. Altho I think of he could understand dd then he wouldn't need anger management.
Dd is still at my mums but came home after school today & think she's missing us & we're really missing her.
I think she's loving getting lots of love & nurturing at my parents.
Coca cola with ice & lime for me tonight & watching new programme The Following with Kevin Bacon which is brilliant.
Dh working tomorrow & dd at my mums so just me & lively boy so hopefully get out for a while. On Sunday all family but me off to Hampden for football so I am getting a whole day to myself....can not wait!!
Really loving Allen Carrs easyway, very interesting!
Sending all brave babes lots of positive vibes for tonight xx

determinedma · 15/03/2013 20:47

Hey clutter. Wish mine would go and get some therapy.I don't know if I'm getting Mr nice or Mr nasty from one minute to the next

Sunnygirl39 · 15/03/2013 21:10

Hi all. Am new to this thread but guess I have known I have a problem for some time. I am a mother of two and in a very happy relationship but still continue to drink to ridiculous levels. I have tried many times to moderate and control my drinking but fail every time. I know deep down my life would be sooooo much better if I didn't drink. My tipple is wine and on the nights that I do decide to drink I will have two bottles. I am on antidepressants (as have suffered from acute recurrent depression since my early 20's) and the combination with the alcohol often causes me to pass out. I really want to nip this in the bud before I turn 40 this year. Where do you find the strength to keep going when you are desperate for a drink? Weirdly I always feel excited at the prospect of stopping but after about 3 days always crack. I am in awe of all of you who have managed to give up. What was different about the time you managed to succeed? Any help will be much appreciated. Xx

TrinityRhino · 15/03/2013 21:17

EVENING ALL

sorry not read the whole thread

just dropping in to say I'm alright Smile

I haven't touched a drop of alcohol.....8 and a half months now

and I'm giving up smoking as of today, got an electric fag, going well so far

I have the power Grin

hope everyone is ok

many positive bunnys for everyone Grin

Mouseface · 15/03/2013 21:29

Clutter - you are in my thoughts, with DD, DH and all. It's so tough sweetheart. Sending you love and best wishes, you know where we are, lots of love to you xx

Ma - sorry DH is being a twat again, maybe he is ill. Maybe it's something that will see him bed bound for a while so you can have some time off! Sleep in another bed!! Let him sweat it out. xx

I'm offski. Feeling rather low, after the highs of the week, Nemo has been horrid to me, hitting me again, screaming in my face. I've come close to walking out of the door tonight. Just because I can't keep going. Emotional exhaustion. Emotions are just running high..... I guess.

I'm tired.

Be brave babes and stay safe. Lots of love to you all! Keep going, keep trying, keep posting :) xx

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Mouseface · 15/03/2013 21:31

Welcome Sunny - sorry to post and run but welcome, keep posting and coming back xx

TRINITY YOU FECKIN STAR!!!! - you've just lifted my fog by reading that. Can I be proud of you? I hope that's not twatish of me! Well done you xxxxxx Huge achievement. xxxxxxx

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aliasjoey · 15/03/2013 21:50

ma is he being difficult because he's coming down with something? I've been feeling so cold the last couple of days (am away to have a hot bath now!) I hope your weekend is a bit more relaxing...

Welcome sunny and well done for being brave and posting. Several people on here are struggling to succeed, I don't think there is a magic answer and for most people there are good days and bad days. Definitely no overnight success. Actually I was watching tv last night and they showed some people making pledges to quit smoking, and I got quite cross about that. It's really NOT that easy! I don't know if they had support, but giving up any drug is hard!

For me, I have managed to cut down to drinking only once a week. More importantly, not obsessing about it (as much). Most importantly, I have stopped drinking completely in situations where I don't feel in control (at my in-laws). I am aware that it is a fragile situation which can easily go wrong eg. a couple of weeks ago when I was stressed I did 'default' to the wine!

It has taken nearly a year and being on this board has been THE most helpful support. Reading every day, posting as often as I can, getting tips and advice, knowing that everyone on here understands what you're going through.

For other people, books, hypnosis, AS, SMART (another support group) there are loads of tools out there, different things work for different people.

Sorry it's such a long post. I'm just so grateful for this Bus and all the Babes on it. Smile

Mouseface · 16/03/2013 10:24

Morning, tis me, Mouse

Sorry for crappy, low post last night. It's been a really hard week and I have reached breaking point but I've put my GIANT BigGirlPants on and I'm going to stop Nemo's behaviour hurting my feelings, I'm going to take a step back before reacting to him and I'm going to try to remember that ASD is something that he can't help, it's something that I have to learn to help him with IYSWIM?

I can't wait for CAMHS to get involved, get him assessed again (it's been 2 years since he was last assessed properly) and get the support that we ALL need.

It's not fair that he can't process things, that he doesn't get it, that he is just so literal. We have to learn how to help him understand :)

Anyway, mad busy weekend here so I'll be off soon....

Sunny - as Joey said, we're all very different and have different ways to cope but we all struggle too. It's bloody hard sometimes not to just push the FI (Fuck it) button and go for it.

I do drink, but only on occasion. Like date night or weddings etc.... or at the weekend. I HATE being pissed, I HATE being hungover and having that stale wine/alcohol feeling swishing around in my belly. It's gross. And the headaches..... urgh.

I too was on ADs for a looooooooooong time and as you know all to well, booze and ADs don't mix well at all. They cancel each other out. I also take a shit load of morphine for extreme pain and I shouldn't drink at all but the odd tipple, controlled and at home or in a safe environment (so not out alone, or hidden in the garden swigging vodka Blush ) is okay.

I had a serious wake up call with my son, Nemo who you can read all about every day on here or on my profile! Grin Thing is, it's up to YOU to own this, it's up to YOU to stop. To take CONTROL and take the POWER AWAY from alcohol. Honestly? I'd go to see my GP and talk to them about you drinking and also taking your ADs. It's dangerous. But you know that sweetheart.

You have to start somewhere, so maybe start there now that you've been brave enough to take that first HUGE step in saying (posting) on here that you need help because you son't like who you are when you drink or how you drink.

Well done you xxxx

Off to get dressed etc..... be back later xx

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