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The Brave Babes Battle Bus - Boinging Into Spring, With A Dance And A Sing!

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Mouseface · 16/02/2013 20:58

Hello, tis me, Mouse and I'm one of the regular travellers on this Bus!

This is a Bus for drinkers, the completely sober, those fighting to stay sober and everyone in between! No matter what, you're welcome here if you feel you don't like the way you drink anymore, or you're worried for someone else.

Take a seat.

You'll be listened to, looked after and maybe (if you're lucky), slapped with our resident Squid, Barry Grin whom I'm sure you'll meet in time!

So, what have you got to lose by posting? What have you got to lose by coming to say hello and telling us why you don't like the way you drink anymore?

And, if you'd like to see where we've been so far HERE IS THE LAST THREAD

And the reason we're ALL here in the first place, the first ever thread is ALL HERE

See you soon Smile xx

OP posts:
PurpleWolfe · 12/03/2013 10:59

Well done on Day 11 Obrigada ! Fab!! Hope the headaches clear really soon.

aliasjoey · 12/03/2013 11:26

green would it help to concentrate on either smoking or drinking, it's just too much to handle right now to give up both? "Tackle your issues in the order in which they will kill you" somebody once suggested. And yes to finding distractions during those peak times, don't even think about an hour later, just think minute-by-minute.

purple that's so great you found someone you trust and is a lifeline for you. And she's been where you are now, so she KNOWS what you are going through!

I've told DD that I will talk to the school, because she's taking so long to eat her lunch they threatened to put her in with the infants. It doesn't seem to be a 'diet' issue, but it might be a 'control' issue - no idea how to resolve it though. She does have a tendency to beat herself up when she thinks she has not achieved her best. She gets angry with herself for not being able to eat more/quicker.

aliasjoey · 12/03/2013 11:30

obrigada well done on Day 11!

It was a mistake for me to drink last night, even though it was a small amount. 3 days drinking in the last 4 - that's a slippery slope right there. Also, I have a cold and the alcohol just gave me a bad headache last night.

On the positive side, I have found that 250ml, that's 2 glasses of wine is enough for me. It really is. (I have to keep telling myself that, because I've been so long in the habit of thinking I need more, must have more)

obrigada · 12/03/2013 11:30

Thanks Purple, hopefully they will clear soon but think that until I start dealing with life stuff they will be around for a while. Hope the AA meeting goes well for you this evening, have no experience of AA but no harm in giving it a go!

Lemonylemon · 12/03/2013 11:49

Morning ladies.... Lemony in the side car again. I just have so much going on that I really can't concentrate on any one thing at the moment.

My DD has just been diagnosed as having reflux. She's 5. She just keeps sicking up into her mouth, poor thing. Sorry if that's TMI. She's been given gaviscon (mint) and it burns her tongue.... Sad

Purps obrigada Well done you!
Ma Rooting for you. You CAN do this.

Mouse I think you will feel some relief when you get some strategies in place.
alias I keep making that mistake too.....
green I think I'd only be able to concentrate on one thing at a time.

Sorry I haven't namechecked everyone, but I do think of you all.........

Day 1 - I won't be drinking tonight.....

aliasjoey · 12/03/2013 12:17

lemony I get acid reflux and it's horrible! Your poor wee girl. My main issue was actually alcohol and coffee, that's not likely to be a problem with a 5-year-old!

Can you not give ranitidine to children? Check with your pharmacist. Otherwise, limit fatty foods, eat little and often. Avoid eating just before bed. Does it happen when she's in bed? You can help by raising her head with pillows. Hope it gets sorted soon.

determinedma · 12/03/2013 12:36

green sorry you are feeling shit. Lots and lots of water might help?
purple you rock. really, you do
Things very unstable right now, swinging from trying to kiss me this morning, to phoning me shouting and ranting, to an apologetic text, to sending me a joke...I cant keep up. Offered to go out tonight to talk about things but he says hes not ready to. I'm not ready to be kissed either.....
I found I can get some one to one counselling via a health plan thing in work. Might do that. Offered it to him but he says he already has someone. News to me......
Day 2 today. I will not pick up.
mouse good news on help for my little fishy friend

Lemonylemon · 12/03/2013 12:36

alias thank you for the drug namecheck. I think that the doctor has referred DD for further investigation and in the meantime, we need to keep a food diary. I don't think that he wanted to go down the heavy duty route until he'd found out if it was overactive acid production or whether it was a dodgy stomach valve or something. The funny thing is that DD is a grazer rather than a big meal eater. The reflux happens more when DD has eaten anything "bready" - ie. pita bread, muffins, etc. So I'm wondering whether it's a sensitivity to something......

PurpleWolfe · 12/03/2013 13:09

Joey Sorry to be a bit reactionary, but the school making your DD sit with the infants to eat her food is, in my mind, BULLYING!! How bloody insensitive of them! If it is an emotional problem that certainly isn't going to help and if it's a control issue, nope, still not helpful! Any chance you could send her with a packed lunch (sez me who HATES the nause of doing packed lunches!) for a week or two whilst you try and get to the bottom of the problem? It might break the cycle? Or maybe the poor child is just a slow eater - like me!

Is she a first child? She does have a tendency to beat herself up when she thinks she has not achieved her best. My DD is the same, if she can't be perfect she doesn't want to know. They do seem to suffer from the assumption of raised expectations.

Thanks Lemony, Ma and Obrigada Grin xxx

PurpleWolfe · 12/03/2013 13:17

Ma already has someone ?! So sorry, Hun. How did that make you feel? xxx

PurpleWolfe · 12/03/2013 14:05

Feeling a bit hacked off today because:

DD rearanged her room last night (it's the size of a small shoebox!) to reveal at least 4, 3in circ patches, of something purple and glittery staining the carpet! Ffs! I've tried 1001 cleaner on it today and it's not budging but I think the stuff is plasticised somehow. I'm now thinking I need to freeze it in some way! All on the carpet of rented accomm (as in 'Whoops There Goes My F**ing Deposit'!!!!!!). Advice welcome!

  • No 'taker's' for the dog yet. She's on the RSPCA website but still not had any inquiries. Now that I've decided she has to go, I just want it over and done with. Had to treat the dog and the carpet for fleas at the weekend - so I'm down another £32!

  • Still no maint. from XP (12 days late and counting!).

  • DS2 was uncharacteristically weepy on delivery at school this morning. Don't know what's going on with him. He's been quick to tears all weekend. He has strange spots/marks on his face which the Nurse Practitioner prescribed an anti-fungal cream for - but didn't/wouldn't/couldn't say what the cause was. The spots/marks on his face got a bit better but haven't gone completely. I'm going to have to take him back again. Sad

  • Oh, and finally checked my insurance and it seems I have to pay the first £75 to get the car windscreen replaced due to the enormous crack in it. Deep sigh!

RL is a crock of shit sometimes - especially on your own! xx

Lemonylemon · 12/03/2013 14:11

Purps could those strange marks/spots be ringworm? My DS got it once and kept touching them with his grubby hands and that's what it turned out to be.....

Ice cubes for the purple glittery splodges?

PurpleWolfe · 12/03/2013 14:18

Thanks Lemony, I don't think it's ringworm. The marks are sort of small, almost acne sized. One of my DC have had ringworm in the past and this is not very similar. The thing is, the spots don't seem to be healing very quickly?? I've had a similar thing, too. In the past, any spots or cuts were really quick to heal but recently - not so much.

Ice cubes for the splodges! Brilliant idea (might save me from strangling DD!). xxx

determinedma · 12/03/2013 14:43

purple i think he means he has someone else to talk to. I dont care. I hope whoever it is can help him but suspect it will be his sister or friend, neither of whom will be neutral.
cover the splodges with a rug. job done.

guggenheim · 12/03/2013 17:00

Hi babes, i'm too bloody knackered to say hi to everyone properly.
Can I just send best wishes and lots of luff to you all?

ma look after yourself
x

aliasjoey · 12/03/2013 17:01

purple I don't want to be alarmist, but those Bird mites we had took a long time to heal - partly because she kept scratching them. Are they itchy?

Re. Dinners, yes it was a stupid thing for them to suggest, it was because they thought she was deliberately taking her time and avoiding going outside as it was so cold! I've now told them that's not the case, as she's like it at home & it's been going on a couple of months. She does seem to eat enough (just) but very slowly and complains of nausea.

Yes she is the eldest, in fact she's an only child! You got me there, and of course I do worry about her. Although usually I'm a hands-off parent, not pushy in academic terms. I worry about health a lot, mine and hers, perhaps she's picked up on that?

greeneyed · 12/03/2013 17:08

babes thank you for your advice and being there :) purps you are right I have so much going on - too much to even make a start on here but suffice to say I have pushed myself to make our lives better by trying to turn around the business(hence solving our finances) After seeking out coaching then counselling to help me with my difficulties I ended up at a psychiatrist and diagnosed ADHD.
Extremely brief explanation but it is a problem with cognitive function meaning not enough dopamine which leads to poor concentration, focus, memory, impulse control, distraction, racing thoughts, inability to stay on task and impulsiveness to name a few!

The diagnosis was like an epiphany and explains a lot - Apparently I am text book ADHD - dropped out of college, bright but underachieving, paralysed by procrastination, poor self regulation, chasing dopamine stimulating activities (stats are 60% more likely to be a substance abuser if ADHD) Anyway I have been hell bent to "fix" this dopamine imbalance to improve my productivity. //the drugs have at times been like a curtain lifting - I can stay on a task for hours without my thoughts flitting from one thing to another and never getting anywhere, I can remember things short term, I can complete tasks etc etc - It's been like a bloody revelation to see that I am not just some useless shite but actually when my brain has the stuff it needs I can cope with work like anyone else :) The side effects however are a nightmare I am on to my second attempt, yes work is improved but I feel like someone has pissed on my bonfire and my light has literally gone out. I miss my crazy motor mind, my constant need to be up and doing and I feel like I've had a lobotomy. Then' there's the physical stuff - nausea, mouth from hell, headaches, sleep problems etc. All of this I'm prepared to tolerate though for the sake of the family - to get me more productive and money coming in. I am exploring other avenues to bring in revenue and went through an interview process culminating in a very good job offer. I turned it down as again it wasn't the best thing for the family and would have made everyone else's lives more difficult not having the flexibility I have now.

I feel like I am making all the effort - DH contribution to improving situation - so far nil - so long as he's happy in his job he doesn't care it doesn't pay the bills and will refuse to even worry about it until the month we can't pay our mortgage - despite working 4 days now I am still taking responsibility for everything else. He does his chores but fundamentally it's me that plans everything, deals with discipline, childcare, shopping, finances paperwork etc etc etc so yes resentment is rapidly rising. (feeling marriage may be doomed at the moment :( )

There's more but I think I've typed enough for now :) - anyway suffice to say I gave myself permission to use whatever crutches necessary to get through this, acclimatize to the meds (no interactions with alcohol) etc etc - so permission to drink every night and start smoking properly again - looking after myself has come bottom on my list of priorities as something I will deal with later when everything else is sorted - well that's caused it's own problems and now I need to address things.

Purple what a shit day :( You poor thing. You are absolutely right, life is hard but I figure it's hard sometimes for everyone - how do we deal with the disappointments, challenges, arseholes, frustations etc without turning to the bottle? It's like the bit in the article where RB says then there is no girl etc - but it's only a momentary escape and reality is still waiting when we wake up. We need better solutions as alcohol is fickle, it gives then it takes away.

Thank you Joey and Lemony for trying to make things easier on me but I need to do both at once they go hand in hand at the moment - doing one will lead to the other.

Isinde thank you for posting the Ezra Pound poem, I am repeating it every day at the moment!

Sorry for me me me post - Love and happiness babes.

aliasjoey · 12/03/2013 17:10

ma is he blowing hot and cold because he's worried about you leaving? Would it help if you told him the truth ie. you are planning on leaving in the next x-years, you are staying because of DS atm, you think it would be a good idea to seek mediation so the split can stay amicable. I just thought maybe the uncertainty is making him act worse, and if he knew what was going on and the timescale it might even relieve him and you?

Well I have never been in your situation so ignore if I am talking bollox.

curryeater · 12/03/2013 17:17

greeneyed - that was all so interesting - sounds very hard. Well done

ma - I am completely exhausted on your behalf

gugg - hi

Purple - could it just be very sensitive skin? Needs some tlc and a rest?

lemony - hello!

clutter - thanks for the words about confidence

hello everyone else

Splitting headache today, strange dreams. feel hungover although haven't drunk since tuesday. maybe I still am. Realising this cycle was one I used to live with all the time.
Missing my girls a lot today.

ohcluttergotme · 12/03/2013 17:54

Hi Curry, sorry your feeling bad, could you still be a little hungover from the weekend as you said you had 9 units sat & sun? Lots of water & paracetamol should help.
Sorry so many babes are struggling. I think bringing up children is so hard, they push your limits to the max. Would be so so easy to think of that glass of wine/cider/vodka but agree with Green on what RB said the reality is still there waiting & in my experience 10 times harder with a hangover!
Purple don't want to sound too negative but in my experience rental company's always find a way not to give you your deposit back. When I once moved out of a flat I paid to have my dd's room painted, cleaned from top to bottom & I thought the flat was perfect they managed to count down to the last penny how they calculated that they kept my deposit! Maybe not all company's are like this!
Hope your dog gets rehomed soon to someone who can give him what he needs.
Wishing all brave babes strength & love xx

Mouseface · 12/03/2013 18:20

Evening, tis me, Mouse - will catch up and then come back.......

Purple - the other thing with the carpet could be to iron it through and old towel?

I have lots to say (sorry) so I'll be back after bathing the fish boy and getting him settled. xxxxx

OP posts:
Mouseface · 12/03/2013 18:26

ON A LOW HEAT!!! Grin Grin Grin

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LibertineLover · 12/03/2013 19:40

Evening babes,

greeneyed that sounds like a hell of a lot of pressure you've got going on there, the ADHD is really interesting though, (wonder if I'm crap or ADHD) although the treatment sounds like a double edged sword. See how it goes I guess, but honestly think you should put looking after yourself a bit higher up your list than bottom, you can't do anything about anything if you make yourself ill.

purple agree with mouse on the iron/towel remedy

Back soon, just going to put DS to bed

determinedma · 12/03/2013 20:04

green my goodness what a lot you have to deal with. I hope you can get your meds to balance and make you feel better.
I am very very tired.feel I have nothing left to give. Nothing at all.dh made dinner and is quite happy tonight. Wonder if there is something I am missing with his mental health. He has already been diagnosed with paranoia previously, but there must be more. He will want to make up and I just can't. I can't. I will refuse and we will flip back into angry mode and it will start again. I'm sorry to hog the thread - first Richard, now this. You guys are literally keeping me alive. Thank you all. I would raise a glass if it wasn't inappropriate!

LibertineLover · 12/03/2013 20:13

Oh ma vent away, it sounds utterly crap my lovely. certainly not conducive to cutting down or stopping drinking, I'm still having one (tonight was two) on a night, beers that is, I can't seem to not do that right now.

since green posted about gastritis, I've googled it and wonder if that's what's wrong with my beer gut stomach, and not a pulled muscle as the doc said, it's twisting in agony sometimes, can't be just a muscle, think I will go back to docs tomorrow.

everyone else I'm sorry, Im dead on my feet, will check in again tomorrow night.