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The Brave Babes Battle Bus - Boinging Into Spring, With A Dance And A Sing!

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Mouseface · 16/02/2013 20:58

Hello, tis me, Mouse and I'm one of the regular travellers on this Bus!

This is a Bus for drinkers, the completely sober, those fighting to stay sober and everyone in between! No matter what, you're welcome here if you feel you don't like the way you drink anymore, or you're worried for someone else.

Take a seat.

You'll be listened to, looked after and maybe (if you're lucky), slapped with our resident Squid, Barry Grin whom I'm sure you'll meet in time!

So, what have you got to lose by posting? What have you got to lose by coming to say hello and telling us why you don't like the way you drink anymore?

And, if you'd like to see where we've been so far HERE IS THE LAST THREAD

And the reason we're ALL here in the first place, the first ever thread is ALL HERE

See you soon Smile xx

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PurpleWolfe · 27/02/2013 18:56

Mouse I have no words to make your awful situation better. You are in the middle of such a crappy time. Why can't you tell us how bad the weekend was? You are a legend anonymous here and we ALL owe you so much and want to, if we can't help, send our blue, healing light.

Don't be sorry, you goose!!! How many times have you chided others for apologising!?

It's the same old, same old advice here - even for you marvellous Mouse - keep posting Sweetpea, we are here. xxxxxxxx

guggenheim · 27/02/2013 19:40

mouse I'm so sorry! It sounds really tough and you need a break. Poor nemo too. hope you have a great time with your friend and thank you for posting even when life is tough for you Smile xxx

libertine please do keep posting or lurking, do come back! I don't think that there is anyone on here who has been able to switch the ww off all the time, it's just a day to day struggle for all of us.Hope you are ok?

curryeater · 27/02/2013 20:43

[chants] WE WANT LIB-er-TINE! WE WANT LIB-er-TINE! WE WANT LIB-er-TINE!

Come back!

Thanks for the support.
Had a bit of a shit day and the w haunted me a bit at train time. Left it to the very very very last minute to get to the station so had no time to do anything but get on the train. Haven't seen her at that hour for weeks, and if I have one then, it's all over.

Mouse, I hope you are out now having a lovely evening with your friend. So sorry to hear that things are hard.

Inde, that hotel situation sounds like a potential major disaster that you converted into a minor one with food and water. I think work can be really bad for drinking. Every work event I go to, at some point near the end of the official worky bit someone makes a knowing reference to being able to have a glass of wine soon, and everyone giggles as if it is known and terribly funny that everyone is gasping for a drink. I am terribly over-thinky now and always think: does everyone really want one that much? Isn't that a bit unhealthy? I mean having a glass of wine is nice but... is everyone dependent?

determinedma · 27/02/2013 20:57

mouse what happened this weekend? I have a deep gut feeling that you and dh are made for each other. Don't let this shit with nemo drive you apart.
Dh's cake was a fab football one. Will try and get pics on tomorrow. Richard came round. Only drank soft drinks. He is on day 3

ohcluttergotme · 27/02/2013 21:00

Aw mouse, so sorry things still
so tough. Really hope you get out to your friends & can relax just for a couple of hours huge hugs sweetie
(( )) Xx
MA your dd's coming home tk make their dad a cake sounds lovely, is that comes after these difficult teenage years?
Curry well done on managing not to drink, I'm so impressed, you must of felt so in control.
Isinde really hope your feeling ok, sounds to me like an impossible situation & I think you handled it really well, hope your day was ok today
Purple how are things? Hope your feeling a little better, you've had Such a hard time to be coping with
Waves hi to all other babes & good night to all. Wishing everyone happiness & a good sleep xx

guggenheim · 27/02/2013 21:14

Bloody hell- I'm watching the child in time program and blubbering away at the little girl who was born very early and needed loads of premmie care (can't remember proper term) Less cute as a teen though!

determinedma · 27/02/2013 21:24

clutter yeah, its all been peaceful tonight but they'll be arguing about something tomorrow. They are down loading sleep app sounds just now and mixing them to make horrible combinations....Ds is going to have nightmares! Creaky rocking chair,Buddhist monks, dripping tap and music box lullaby makes a particularly creepy soundtrack.

Fairenuff · 27/02/2013 21:34

curry there are at least two people who I work that reference drink A LOT. I know both of them can handle a large amount so they must have built up quite a bit of resilience.

Mouse all of Nemo's challenges are separate conditions which, taken in isolation would be difficult enough both emotionally and physically. These are all little bits of him who make him who he is. And I know you love him unconditionally, just for being him.

But that doesn't make you superhuman or mean that you will always be able to give him exactly what he needs, exactly when he needs it, exactly how he wants it, if that makes sense?

When 'just' one or two of his needs become more critical, you are fantastic at coping and helping him manage. But right now it sounds as if they are all coming to the fore at once and that is so hard to prioritise.

It is mentally exhausting to have to constantly stay alert and one step ahead, trying to anticipate what to do for the best and afterwards going over and over what you might have done differently.

I have nothing useful to offer, other than a listening ear eye. Keep posting, keep letting it out here. Try to bear in mind that nothing stays the same. Things always change and what seems hopeless one day might seem different on another.

Not going to tell you not to drink. You know yourself. Just take care of yourself whatever you do xxx

venusandmars · 27/02/2013 23:28

Oh mouse what a tough, tough time. You already have your lovely and precious dd, so you already know that with any child, we as mothers cannot meet their every need all the time. Whether that is because we can't be at work and at home at the same time, or we can't mend a broken toy, or we can't revive a dead guinea-pig, or we can't make the clouds go away. That is hard and difficult, but it sounds so much tougher for you and nemo (and you dh).

I imagine it is heart-breaking for your dh to feel so thoroughly rejected, and possibly to feel that his comparative lack of patience, or lack of understanding, or lack of skill, is part of the reason. (and I say comparative because almost any person would be lacking compared to you, darling, dedicated mouse). Whether we are Mum or Dad I guess we all feel that as parents we should be able to know how to help our children, and that our deep underlying love will overcome all our worldly frustrations and irritations, and despair. But sadly that's not so, and many of us have had moments, or hours, or days, or weeks , or months when we feel so terribly, terribly inadequate, and we just have to do the best that we can.

The best that we can for our dc, and ourselves, and our partners. we just have to do whatever we are able. Beyond that we can do no more.

venusandmars · 27/02/2013 23:30

Sleep well babes and keep each other in your hearts xx

aliasjoey · 28/02/2013 09:07

venus what a beautiful post, I hope mouse reads it and is able to take some comfort.

Lemonylemon · 28/02/2013 09:20

Thank you all for your very kind words and hugs yesterday. I really, really appreciated it.

Libertine come back!!!! You, me and Purple can share the seat in the side car for a while until we gather our strength again. We really are all in this together.

mouse {HUG HUG HUG} for you. You are really going through it at the moment, you poor thing. Poor all of you. It's a toughie. Are you able to chivvy the powers that be at all?

Peace to you all.....

LibertineLover · 28/02/2013 09:32

Hi!! firstly, thanks for all your kind words, am feeling much more positive today, I have actually made good progress, going from drinking a bottle and couple of cans a night to one or two cans, so have got my head around the maybe I can control if not completely stop right now, so thanks again.

Mouse I feel for you lovely, I really do, relationships are tested to the very limit sometimes, but I'm sure you'll come through it together, it must be so hard, I hope they pull their fingers out and get him diagnosed soon. Really glad to read you have good friends in a similar situation, don't know what I'd do without my friends sometimes. glad you had some time to yourself last night too, and well done for not going for another bottle :)

Lemony thanks! (and budge over, jesus!)

determinedma · 28/02/2013 09:44

morning all
mouse I have been fretting all night that my phrase "this shit with Nemo" sounded terribly wrong and that nemo was causing it. I meant all the shit you go through in supporting nemo not that HE was shit, IYSWIM?
Oh dear...that sounds worse.Confused
I hope you had a better night and that you and DH can get some time out to sort things out.

venusandmars · 28/02/2013 14:42

Hello Babes, hope all are well today. I find winter (and the lack of bright sunshine) deeply depressing, so I'm looking forward to the end of February and some spring weather appearing.

Mouseface · 28/02/2013 14:48

Afternoon, tis me, Mouse

To those who said 'why can't I go into detail?' it's because this is a public forum and I've most likely said too much already, it's not that I don't want to, it's just that it was a very upsetting moment and something I don't think DH would want mentioned in detail. Sorry. Smile xx

Ma - you dafty! I knew what you meant lovely, and I honestly believe in my heart, deep within my soul that DH and I are meant to be, forever. Our wedding theme was the Seahorse because they mate for life. We have a Seahorse in every room in the house. Soppy? Maybe but it's massively important to us both. We are a team, in all we do, we've always been a team.

Except for now. And it's hard not to have my Seahorse curled around me because there's a little fish in the way......

venus - such a lovely post, thank you so much. You are exactly right, in everything that you say. He does feel inadequate, through no fault of his own too which to me, makes it even harder to deal with. He wants his son to love him but right now, Nemo is saying that he doesn't even like DH and that is crushing him.

I can't imagine the pain it would cause me but I can see my husband getting smaller and smaller each day that this carries on....... I managed to get out last night and my friend was totally amazing. She got it, she gets it. She knew that I am right in saying that Nemo is way beyond where he should be with his numbers, letters, words, etc. Academically, he is flying but emotionally and socially he is stranded in limbo and can't move. He can't articulate his feelings, so he lashes out, rejects everyone but me, he is naughty because he's frustrated.

He won;t be officially assessed again for Autism until he is 4/5 (before school I think), so not long to go and I will be making a shit load of noise so that the assessment covers everything.

I'm so pleased that this Bus is here..... I could have easily got shit faced last night. I wanted to. I really did but all that would have done is given me a hangover, a rougher night than normal at 2.47 am when my night shift started with my little boy and a feeling of immense guilt for letting myself down. So, I had two glasses of wine, came home, talked to DH about the day, what my lovely friend had said and went to bed with DH, holding him tight until we both fell fast asleep. Smile It's the only time we get alone now, and even that is cut short every night.

Faire - you are amazing. Thank you for your kind post to me, I'm very aware of everything all happening at once currently and I'm trying to put things into the order in which they are most important, but as you say, it's not always easy to know which or that is.

Thank you for understanding Faire xx

Clutter - I have a feeling that this is going to be a longer process than I first thought. I know how much DH is hurting and I can't take that away from him because it's just not that simple. All I can do is keep reassuring him that he is a fantastic father, he is loving and giving and selfless in all that he does. All he wants is for things to go back to normal. He wants his son back. he wants his little boy to want to be with him.

They used to have such a strong bond and that seems so weak now. I'm at the gym for my second induction programme. I've just told him ( Nemo ) that I'm going and he went mad at me, I'm just going to go and perhaps have to use a touch of bribery to get that I need to without creating a rod for my own back?!

Libs - I'm glad you feel more positive today, that's the spirit (of the non liquid variety of course Grin) I'm also glad you're sticking around, on the Bus. Smile

Thank you all for your well wishes. Today DH is still being rejected but he's starting to ignore the way that Nemo speaks to him. I've said that maybe he should try to give him attention when he is nice and ignore bad behaviuor?

We'll get there, eventually. Right, park and ducks time. Be back later xxx

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alabasterangel · 28/02/2013 15:20

Been away a while.

mouse - I'm sorry you are having such a crappy hard time. I can't believe your story and how far you've come, you don't deserve this. I've been thinking of you lots, and really sincerely hoping things get back on a a better keel. You're in my thoughts, lots.

Day something here - 10 at least I think. Never gone that long in my adult life not drinking, not even when pregnant.

I don't have a choice. Dr say I have hepatitis as a complication of glandular fever. How ironic that my hepatitis has come NOT through alcohol. I just want to say though, it's a bloody awful, scary thing, and makes you realise how delicate your liver is. My bus journey is now not voluntary, for the next couple of months I have zero choice. Looking in the mirror and seeing the start of jaundice in my eyes has been a shocker. Feel somewhat depressed about it all, but trying to keep upbeat.

venusandmars · 28/02/2013 15:35

alabaster that is what happened to my friend's dd. I know how ill she looked, and apparently she felt worse than she looked, so I really really for you.

The good news is that she DID recover quickly, and then has been fine ever since. She had no alcohol for 6 months - a tough gig for a young girl at uni.

Take lots of good care of yourself, rest, eat well (in small amounts), and keep on posting here.

alabasterangel · 28/02/2013 16:04

Thank you Venus. It's luckily very mild. Despite all the thrashing , my liver is holding its own. I had a very slight yellowing but that's passing already. I have a lot to be grateful to my liver for, I wouldn't blame 'it' for not bothering to help me!! reading Allen Carr too now....

LibertineLover · 28/02/2013 17:20

mouse and alabaster all strength to you both, I've been shitter than I thought possible today, after a visit from a friend, but haven't seen her for so long, think we needed it. Anyway, hoping everyone's Ok, if not totally on the bus :)

LibertineLover · 28/02/2013 17:21

Sorry that was dead short, amdoing tea, laters brave babes xx

jesuswhatnext · 28/02/2013 17:38

afternoon! Smile

mouse the usual ((((hug)))) from me! dh will be ok you know?, he is a good man, just keep talking and things will come right in the end! Smile

nice to meet you Libertine!

i feel dead on my feet, nothing bad happening, not ill, just very tired - looking back at my last 'meltdown' i can see that feeling like this is a trigger for me, so, im backing off the work front again, farmed a load of stuff out etc etc, hoping for a quiet week next week, gets me down really, im sure its all hormonal/menopausal crap, just gets me down that i cant live as fast as i did in my 30s Sad hey ho, i'll live! Grin

Mouseface · 28/02/2013 18:50
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ohcluttergotme · 28/02/2013 20:40

Hi babes, how is everyone doing?
Mouse so sorry that things so rough, it's good you got out with your friend last night & had a but if time away from everything.
JWN hope you can manage to slow down, sounds amazing that you are recognising what your triggers are

I've been awake since 4, seem to have lost the ability to have a good nights sleep, so going to head to bed very soon

I'm noticing that as I'm not drinking I am turning into a real recluse. Has this happened to others? I feel I really don't trust myself & really don't want to wake up the next day with a hangover so it's easier to just stay at home where it feels safe...does that make sense?
Sending all babes who need it a hug (( )) xx

determinedma · 28/02/2013 20:46

Hi all.
mouse something I used to do with Ds when he was younger and "hated" me, was to start doing something that piqued his curiosity like a jigsaw or gluing and watched him get closer, while I ignored him, or even "hid" what I was doing until he got more and more interested. Sometimes we didn't even speak but and ended up pottering away quietly together.

I love seahorses. They are my favourite creatures.

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