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Support thread for those in emotionally abusive relationships: 14

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foolonthehill · 10/12/2012 21:15

Am I being abused?

Verbal Abuse A wonderfully non-hysterical summary. If you're unsure, read the whole page and see if you're on it.
Emotional abuse from the same site as above
Emotional abuse a more heartfelt description
a check list Use this site for some concise diagnostic lists and support
Signs of Abuse & Control Useful check list
why financial abuse is domestic violenceAre you a free ride for a cocklodger, or supposed to act grateful for every penny you get for running the home?
Women's Aid: "What is Domestic Violence?" This is also, broadly, the Police definition.
20 signs you're with a controlling and/or abusive partner Exactly what it says on the tin

Books :

"Why Does He Do That?" by Lundy Bancroft - The eye-opener. Read this if you read nothing else.
"The Verbally Abusive Relationship" by Patricia Evans ? He wants power OVER you and gets angry when you prove not to be the dream woman who lives only in his head.
"The Verbally Abusive Man, Can He Change?" by Patricia Evans - Answer: Perhaps - ONLY IF he recognises HIS issues, and if you can be arsed to work through it. She gives explicit guidelines.
"Men who hate women and the women who love them" by Susan Forward. The author is a psychotherapist who realised her own marriage was abusive, so she's invested in helping you understand yourself just as much as helping you understand your abusive partner.
"The Emotionally Abusive Relationship: How to Stop Being Abused and How to Stop Abusing" by Beverley Engels - The principle is sound, if your partner isn't basically an arse, or disordered.
"Codependent No More : How to Stop Controlling Others and Start Caring for Yourself" by Melody Beattie - If you a rescuer, you're a co-dependent. It's a form of addiction! This book will help you.
But whatever you do, don't blame yourself for being Co-dependent!

Websites :

So, you're in love with a narcissist - Snarky, witty, angry, but also highly intelligent: very good for catharsis
Dr Irene's verbal abuse site - motherly advice to readers' write-ins from a caring psychotherapist; can be a pain to navigate but very validating stuff
Out of the fog - and now for the science bit! Clinical, dispassionate, and very informative website on the various forms of personality disorders and how they impact on family and intimate relationships.
Get your angries out ? You may not realise it yet, but you ARE angry. Find out in what unhealthy ways your anger is expressing itself. It has probably led you to staying in an unhealthy relationship.
Melanie Tonia Evans is a woman who turned her recovery from abuse into a business. A little bit "woo" and product placement-tastic, but does contain a lot of useful articles.
Love fraud - another site by one woman burned by an abusive marriage
You are not crazy - one woman's experience. She actually has recordings of her and her abusive partner having an argument, so you can hear what verbal abuse sounds like. A pain to navigate, but well worth it.
Baggage reclaim - Part advice column, part blog on the many forms of shitty relationships.
heart to heart a wealth of information and personal experiences drawn together in one place

what couples therapy does for abusers

If you find that he really wants to change
should I stay or should I go bonus materials this is a site containing the material for men who want to change?please don?t give him the link?print out the content for him to work through.

The Bill of Rights
bill of rights here is what you should expect as a starting point for your treatment in a relationship, as you will of course be treating others!!

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TisILeclerc · 18/12/2012 21:29

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MatchsticksForMyEyes · 18/12/2012 21:33

Is the course to do with how he relates to people in general or to you though? I know what you mean about feelings being all over the place. I am okay today, but last week a complete mess as he was kicking off.
I am ringing a hypnotherapist tomorrow as I have had good results from hypnotherapy before. I need to get to the point where I feel how I feel and not get so distressed by his ranting and raving. The practioner whose site I visited says it can be used for stress and anxiety through the emotional freedom technique, which I have had done before.
Maybe that would help you?

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MatchsticksForMyEyes · 18/12/2012 21:44

I can only speak from my own experience and that having ripped off the plaster, so to speak, it has meant everything has to be dealt with now.
I wonder if your FW would have woken up to the fact he needed to become a better person had you not left? Is he taking the course seriously or is it like a box to tick for him?
I know my FW pays lip-service to it all being his fault, but would never make any serious effort to change as deep down he thinks his behaviour is justifiable.
Sorry, I am probably not helping at all.

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MatchsticksForMyEyes · 18/12/2012 21:48

Hope not on my account. Apologies if so.

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NiniLegsInTheAir · 18/12/2012 22:06

I ended up going to the work xmas do, had too much to drink on an empty stomach and almost skipped my way home with DD in her pushchair (she's been fine today!). NSDH got home, said he felt ill and went straight to bed. I'm sat here with my study books, a cuppa and some choc brownies (no muffins I'm afraid Grin).

Hope you're ok Leclerc.

TryBreatheTwinkleFly · 19/12/2012 00:06

Pony that sounds so horrible, what your fw is doing re ds1 and also playing with everyone?s mind. I?m so sorry Sad

Match what you said I couldn't be persuaded to go back to someone who has shown me such a lack of compassion, respect and kindness over the years and valued me only in terms of the service I provide rang SO true with me too. You hit the nail on the head.

leclerc sorry to hear about the mind games your fw is playing Sad.

nini it sounds like the xmas do lifted your spirits a bit? I'm so glad if so. Good that NSDH has taken his man flu to bed so you can enjoy peace and quiet and some study time (and brownies, mmm)

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NiniLegsInTheAir · 19/12/2012 09:36

Had a phonecall earlier, my counselling session today has been cancelled. I feel sick, I've been keeping myself going in the knowledge that I'd be seeing her. She won't be back in until after xmas now, which means at least another 3 weeks of nobody to talk to. Over xmas. With NSDH at home. Sad Sad

Leclerc I would open it while you're alone and have the chance to react to it however you feel you need to. What could it be?

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NiniLegsInTheAir · 19/12/2012 09:44

Thanks Leclerc. I havn't seen my counsellor since NSDH put an end to our Relate sessions, so really wanted to discuss that with her. I'll have to keep ranting here in the meantime (Wink). I've never tried WA or the Samaritans but will bear them in mind.

I've got today off as waiting in for a parcel and tidying the house as prep for the weekend. NSDH has been emailing my work addy so I have to keep logging onto it so he doesn't realise I'm off today.

Can't view your pic if you've put one up?

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MaggieMay05 · 19/12/2012 09:48

Morning ladies, sorry not had time to catch up properly as been nursing very poorly DS. But just had to share these pearls of wisdom from FW with you all. My DDs nursery supports the local womens refuge every xmas-FW totally disagrees with this charity because...(wait for it)...these refuges are...(wait for it)...full of pathetic women who were TALKING when they should have been LISTENING. Says it all really doesn't it. What an evil man I'm with.

Talking of evil....am I evil for having a little laugh about the grandma in laws scooter zooming off on the fast setting?! Just have visions of her zooming off at 60mph! sorry!! Hope she gets well soon Xmas Blush Leclerc ohhhh maybe the wrapped picture is a full portrait of FW for you to hang up-just so he can remind you what you are missing! Seriously though, I would open it-it may be a family photo or something similar you won't want DD2 to see to get her hopes up even more. Thinking of you all

Ps-Pony ((hugs)) for your poor love DS1.

MaggieMay05 · 19/12/2012 09:53

Oppppsss X post! Ohhhh a teddy Leclerc!! Maybe with a secret cam attached since roger rabbit has failed his recent mission with cablegate!Xmas Grin

Nini stay strong my lovely, know its not the same but we will be here for you all over xmas if you need to chat/rant etc xx

NiniLegsInTheAir · 19/12/2012 09:53

Wow Leclerc that is one big teddy! How bizarre, can't get my head round why he'd buy you that Confused. Unless he's just got you the opposite of something you'd like just to mess with your head?

I just wouldn't know what to do with that!

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TheSilveryTinsellyPussycat · 19/12/2012 10:35

That is one MotherFucker of a teddy!

Tis the sort of thing a lovelorn teen gets his gf.

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