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Calling his wife a cunt under his breath

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toomanydaisies · 16/11/2012 20:12

  • [Message from MNHQ: This thread was started in 2012. Just saying...]

Please give me advice.

My friend called me in tears just now. She and her husband had had an argument - but she said it was nothing major. He went off into their bedroom and called her a cunt under his breath.

Not the first time he's done this apparently.

She told him she'd heard and he wasn't apologetic - just said he was speaking to himself.

I think this is terrible. Is it emotional abuse? I just don't know what to say to my friend...

OP posts:
HellothisisJoanie · 17/11/2012 14:29

oh fgs people row

hurricanewyn · 17/11/2012 14:36

I call DH names under my breath when he annoys me - gobshite, most frequently. I probably wouldn't apologise straight away either. Don't get me wrong, once I've calmed down I would - especially if I thought I'd hurt him, but mid row isn't the right time for these kind of discussions.

I have a mouth like a sewer though.

CabbageLeaves · 17/11/2012 14:42

Maybe if you are used to using the language, used to insulting each other and it's more normal for you OneMoreChap then it's not such a big deal.

I've never used that word. I wouldn't say fuck off to DP. We don't row. We talk. If my relationship involved him calling me a cunt it would symbolise the fact that it was over.

Yes I would leave

BelaLugosisShed · 17/11/2012 14:43

Do I really have to explain that it's not about a particular word, just that the words used signify such a massive lack of respect, that's what I would never be able to come back from - he has never , ever , sworn at me, not once since we met in 1980, because he respects me.

I dont actually think that you know much about stable relationships tbh, not going by some of the utter rubbish you post on these boards anyway.

If people didn't put up with being spoken to like crap, this board wouldn't be full of women asking if being called a fat, lazy cow is abusive, there is no place for abusive language in happy, healthy, respectful relationships.

HappyGirlNow · 17/11/2012 14:45

I agree onemorechap , who would honestly end a marriage over one word..
No good will come of name calling.. but it's just a word!!
But I suppose once you're on that 'oh but that's the nastiest, meanest, most awful word in the whole wide world' bandwagon it's hard to get off! Such a cliche.

HellothisisJoanie · 17/11/2012 14:46

oh ffs oyu sound so PRIM - get over it

HellothisisJoanie · 17/11/2012 14:47

i dont swear and we rarely row. I wouldnt divorce anyone for thought crime either

HellothisisJoanie · 17/11/2012 14:48

lol at me
i obv DO wear but not to h.

BelaLugosisShed · 17/11/2012 14:48

Yes, such a cliche, wanting to be treated with respect by your partner. Hmm
A man calling a woman a cunt is an act of abuse, always .

HappyGirlNow · 17/11/2012 14:49

Oh goodness.. Ok, we'll clearly if there's a pattern of name calling and disrespect, of course leave.. But to say you'd leave after being called a bad word once ? Hmm

BelaLugosisShed · 17/11/2012 14:52

There are a whole lot of women on this board who wish they would have left the first time they were verbally abused, instead of putting up with it/thinking they probably deserved it, for years on end.
A man who speaks to his partner like this is not a good partner and is abusive.

CabbageLeaves · 17/11/2012 14:55

Grin at OneMoreChap suggesting a woman who's been married for 30 years to a man who doesn't call her a cunt .....hasn't got a stable relationship

I am physically chuckling at that one

HappyGirlNow · 17/11/2012 14:55

It may well be a red flag, but c'mon, no one in their right mind would end a long marriage just because of that one instance.. Hmm

Binfullofgibletsonthe26th · 17/11/2012 14:56

She might have called him a mealymaggot dicked peadophile first though, mighn't she?

You don't know the context of it. She might have the mouth of a sailor. She could have done or said something to really really upset him.

He muttered it under his breath, so it could have been an exclamation about the argument, or he could have been saying "obviously I'm a complete cunt" or something similar. He didn't spit it directly into her face whilst she was backed up against the wall.

He should be entitled to have some time to cool off in private too, if he is a reasonable level tempered bloke.

But she should be talking to her husband about it surely.

CabbageLeaves · 17/11/2012 14:58

It's choice. You get what you choose. Bela doesn't get called names and has stayed.

If you're happy with name calling then you stay and presumably you also use names - which is fine because that's your normal.

It doesn't mean one relationship is better than another.

Some partners stay with others who are lazy, repressed, extravagant, wtc. It's just what you decide is acceptable to you

BelaLugosisShed · 17/11/2012 15:00

I would bet my house on it not being just that one instance, abusive behaviour can be very subtle in the beginning, abusive men never start by calling their partner a cunt, this is just pushing the boundaries to see if she will accept more.
I depspair for young women if they don't think that being called a cunt is much of a big deal within a relationship.

HappyGirlNow · 17/11/2012 15:01

I don't believe even someone extremely averse to name calling would leave a long relationship after one instance of it

HappyGirlNow · 17/11/2012 15:03

Well we can only go on what were told can't we??
And nobody is saying being called names isn't bad because it clearly is and should be strongly addressed. But cunt is no worse than many other words.

BelaLugosisShed · 17/11/2012 15:03

OP said it wasn't the first time though. Wink

JugglingWithPossibilities · 17/11/2012 15:05

Hmm, my DH has said similar and worse quite often - sometimes in a very angry and shouty way - not good at all Sad

CabbageLeaves · 17/11/2012 15:05

Happy - no possibly I wouldn't
I was in an abusive relationship. It started like this.
You tolerate one instance
Next time... is also only one more instance

and so on

My tolerance levels are set on zero currently. I would rather be single than compromising and I know how it starts. You fail to see it until you're right in it

But that's me and I'm a fairly non confrontational, even kind of person who doesn't swear much

BelaLugosisShed · 17/11/2012 15:05

HappyGirl - it is worse when it's man calling a woman a cunt, it's intended for one purpose only , to remind a woman of her status, just a woman, not a real person like a man .

CabbageLeaves · 17/11/2012 15:08

What would I want for my DDs

Would I say... it's just a word. Don't make such a fuss.

Or You're worth more than that...don't accept it

HappyGirlNow · 17/11/2012 15:08

Oops Blush missed that bit! oh well that's different and really does need addressed.. But I still maintain its about name calling in general not because of that particular word..
I do award Biscuitto myself though Blush

strumpetpumpkin · 17/11/2012 15:09

i dont see the big deal about walking away and muttering that the person you were arguing with was some sort of unpleasant swear word under your breath.
Havent we all done it??

Maybe she was being a cunt?

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