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Feeling very sorry for myself.

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TwllBach · 04/11/2012 11:43

I've been with DP for six years - we cenrated our anniversary last night.

I've always been very open about the fact that I want a marriage and a family - always and open are key words here, and right from the first week of being together. Not in a crazy way, but just being honest and talking about the things we want from life.

Three years in, DP was apparently shocked that it was what I wanted and declared that he didn't believe in marriage. I said that's fine, but it was a dealbreaker for me. DP got upset, promised we'd get married and I believed him.

I was training to be a teacher, he was working full time and money was sort of tight so I let it slide because it wasn't the best time. Last year, though, I graduated an got a job, although not teaching. At Christmas I reiterated my desire to get married and he said he knew it would have to happen to stay together.

I was sort of torn and a little hurt. The poor sod shouldn't have to marry someone if he doesn't want to, but at the same time, I feel like I have the right to be with someone who wants to marry me.

At the beginning of the year, then, we went forward on the understanding that we were getting married. I suggested buying a cheap engagement ring - I said I'd buy it or we could go halves but he insisted he wanted to buy it and it would be a 'proper' one. I started looking at place to get married cheaply - each one he turned down because they'd make him ashamed. I tried more expensive places - he doesn't like the food, the staff, the location.

I left it a couple of months, he never mentioned it again. I discussed booking a registrar and doing it with no fuss and, with his agreement, booked the date. We then cancelled because he said he wanted me to have a 'proper' wedding.

I got a teaching job and started in September. We took out a loan together, cleared my student overdraft and other various debts between us (nothing big) and we are payi back half each. He used all his 'half' of the loan to clear 'hus' debts while I used £2k todo the same, meaning technically I have £1.5k left that is 'mine.' I have jokingly asked for it, saying I want to go on a spending spree - I would never be that frivolous with money, but he fobbed me off and didn't give it to me.

As the weeks went on, it bothered me. If he had spent it - what on? He's nothing to show for it. Had he used it to clear debt that I wasn't aware of? If so, I'm very uneasy about him hiding stuff like that from me - my dad was the same and I swore never to end up like my mum.

Stupidly, I let the idea that he was using it to buy me a 'proper' ring. I don't know why - partly because I wanted it to be true and partly because its one of te only reasonable explanations for the missing/used money that I can come up with that doesn't make me upset/angry.

So our anniversary comes round and he is so lovely, he arranged to take me out to my favourite restaurant. I said we'd go halves because its something from each to each, IYSWIM? But he said no - it's his gift to me because beig with me all these years have been a gift to him. He's just been so loving and wonderful. I tried really hard not to let the ring thing creep in to my head, but it was there and I was excited.

We went to dinner and it was lovely. No ring though. I am disappointed, however unreasonable that is. I brought up the idea of getting married again this morning and he seemed resigned to it, surprised somewhat and did say it was a waste f money. He said if we strt saving £25 a week each we will be able to afford to - so I said "are we saving from scratch? There's not a lump sum left over from the loan?" And he said that there was a grand left, after being a bit evasive.

I'm not getting married am I? I've wasted six years of my life, and his. And, just as importantly, it's the money thing.

Oh I didn't even know what I'm trying to say. I'm miserable and disappointed and am feeling very, very stupid.

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ShipwreckedAndComatose · 08/11/2012 19:49

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ShipwreckedAndComatose · 08/11/2012 19:50
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amazingmumof6 · 08/11/2012 20:30

lucky enough to do this at 24 I say!

My sister's last boyfriend was a single dad (his wife died 9 years ago) and they were on and off as he kept on cheating on her, lied etc, she broke it off, he begged her to take him back, they started again blah blah blah.
last year she ended it for good after 6 years of nightmare.
The one before that was even worse, they'd been together for a while when he got caught dealing drugs, ended up in prison - my sis was dumb enough to pay for his lawyers fees (!) for over 2 years! she felt it would be unfair to leave him.....for crying out loud the guy was locked up, I don't know how that didn't clarify the situation! she ended up loosing an insane amount of money and they broke it off when he got out...

She wouldn't listen to Mum or me to end either "relationship", no matter how much we begged her, talked to her, encouraged her, wiped her tears etc.
I makes me furious that she wasted almost 10 years of her life in total on these absolute shitbags!

Of course there's no way of knowing what could have been otherwise, but she could have found someone lovely ages ago, be married, have a couple of kids, sweet.

Instead she's 36, lives alone and is desperate to have a family, but thinks it might be too late now to find the right guy. She's realized that she is running out of time, I'm so sad for her. I love her dearly and just wish I could make it happen for her. Especially that the contrast is so vivid, I'm happily married with 6 kids - and only 2 years older!

So well done twll, it's harsh now, there will be difficult months ahead, but I think you've escaped a potentially bleak future with this bloke.

just one question - would you say yes if he turned around and proposed?

TwllBach · 02/12/2012 12:06

I realise this is an old thread but I thought it'd make more sense to post here rather than on a new one.

I feel awful Sad I had my staff party last night and I really didn't want to go but I did anyway to show my face. I got really drunk and tried really hard to 'mingle' but I'm really not good at it. If you put it in a school context, everyone that was there was 'cool' and thin and fashionable, whereas I'm sort if dumpy and plain and I really didn't fit in.

I was feeling really vulnerable and sad when I got home and text him Sad I'm such an idiot. He came straight round, held me, told me I was perfect the way I was, I didn't need to change just to fit in with people.

He's not stopped trying to get me back, not once. Not in a creepy stalkery way, but he's made it very clear that he loves me and is sorry for his behaviour. I have tried as best I can to keep my distance, I don't answer all his calls or all his texts, I don't invite him to the house and we don't go out alone together. Now I feel a bit like I've given him (false?) hope.

He's gone now. He made me breakfast and left without a fuss.

Oh I don't know. I do miss him but I have been doing just fine without him, so that's probably all I need to know isn't it??

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blackcurrants · 02/12/2012 12:51

I'm afraid so. If you take him back you are signing up for more of the same, and it sounds to me like you dont want that. Why not look into the ways you could strenghten your self-worth and independence, rather than retreating to the familiar (even though crap) when you feel bad about yourself?

TwllBach · 02/12/2012 13:01

I think that's another reason that I'm feeling particularly shit. I thought I was going really well, I thought I'd learnt who I was, finally, and was some way towards accepting it. Apparently, though, all it takes is a group of women a couple of years older, a good four stone lighter and a few sneers here and there and I'm right back to where I started. It's so frustrating.

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blackcurrants · 02/12/2012 15:50

Twil honey, it sounds like a dire night, have a ((hug))

And now put that bad night behind you. It's just a night. I'm not great at parties either, I don't tend to enjoy myself and frankly I often don't want to go. So what? I am fabulous anyway Xmas Grin

You had one bad night. A blip. You don't need to sink into "why am I so awful" and "what if no one wants me" or "what if he's as good as I'll ever get" or "why am I so dumpy and awkward" or any crap like that. Not after ONE bad night! The furthest I would suggest taking this introspection is "Why do I feel like I want more people to like me?" and "How can I be kinder to myself?" and "What shall I do to further develop my independence and sense of self-worth in the new year?"

You're so young - and I don't mean to sound patronising (wistful, more like!) because you're so together for someone of your age - when I was 24 I hadn't got a sense of my career, hadn't got a man, was convinced I had no clue what to do and wouldn't ever amount to much. As it happens, I needed to spend a bit of time drinking too much, making bad romantic choices and navel gazing with some mates before I could do some necessary growing-up. You've got time on your side - you're good at being a 'grown up' when it comes to paying the bills and you want a grown up relationship, so now you can look at yourself and say: what can I do to make myself even more strong and fabulous in the months ahead? How can I be the happiest and best person for myself?

You know you don't need this waster back in your life, he was just a comforting familiar presence when you felt a bit low. Look on it as you would a junk food or junk-telly binge: you're not proud of it, but it's not like it's something you'd do every day, it's not like it's something that defines you. It was a lapse. You're over it. Onwards and upwards!

CaliforniaSucksSnowballs · 02/12/2012 20:40

Twll cut yourself some slack, it was one night, nothing in the great scheme of life. You are young and things will get better.
The holidays will make it difficult for a while, just hang on in there and get through to the new year.

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