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Feeling very sorry for myself.

158 replies

TwllBach · 04/11/2012 11:43

I've been with DP for six years - we cenrated our anniversary last night.

I've always been very open about the fact that I want a marriage and a family - always and open are key words here, and right from the first week of being together. Not in a crazy way, but just being honest and talking about the things we want from life.

Three years in, DP was apparently shocked that it was what I wanted and declared that he didn't believe in marriage. I said that's fine, but it was a dealbreaker for me. DP got upset, promised we'd get married and I believed him.

I was training to be a teacher, he was working full time and money was sort of tight so I let it slide because it wasn't the best time. Last year, though, I graduated an got a job, although not teaching. At Christmas I reiterated my desire to get married and he said he knew it would have to happen to stay together.

I was sort of torn and a little hurt. The poor sod shouldn't have to marry someone if he doesn't want to, but at the same time, I feel like I have the right to be with someone who wants to marry me.

At the beginning of the year, then, we went forward on the understanding that we were getting married. I suggested buying a cheap engagement ring - I said I'd buy it or we could go halves but he insisted he wanted to buy it and it would be a 'proper' one. I started looking at place to get married cheaply - each one he turned down because they'd make him ashamed. I tried more expensive places - he doesn't like the food, the staff, the location.

I left it a couple of months, he never mentioned it again. I discussed booking a registrar and doing it with no fuss and, with his agreement, booked the date. We then cancelled because he said he wanted me to have a 'proper' wedding.

I got a teaching job and started in September. We took out a loan together, cleared my student overdraft and other various debts between us (nothing big) and we are payi back half each. He used all his 'half' of the loan to clear 'hus' debts while I used £2k todo the same, meaning technically I have £1.5k left that is 'mine.' I have jokingly asked for it, saying I want to go on a spending spree - I would never be that frivolous with money, but he fobbed me off and didn't give it to me.

As the weeks went on, it bothered me. If he had spent it - what on? He's nothing to show for it. Had he used it to clear debt that I wasn't aware of? If so, I'm very uneasy about him hiding stuff like that from me - my dad was the same and I swore never to end up like my mum.

Stupidly, I let the idea that he was using it to buy me a 'proper' ring. I don't know why - partly because I wanted it to be true and partly because its one of te only reasonable explanations for the missing/used money that I can come up with that doesn't make me upset/angry.

So our anniversary comes round and he is so lovely, he arranged to take me out to my favourite restaurant. I said we'd go halves because its something from each to each, IYSWIM? But he said no - it's his gift to me because beig with me all these years have been a gift to him. He's just been so loving and wonderful. I tried really hard not to let the ring thing creep in to my head, but it was there and I was excited.

We went to dinner and it was lovely. No ring though. I am disappointed, however unreasonable that is. I brought up the idea of getting married again this morning and he seemed resigned to it, surprised somewhat and did say it was a waste f money. He said if we strt saving £25 a week each we will be able to afford to - so I said "are we saving from scratch? There's not a lump sum left over from the loan?" And he said that there was a grand left, after being a bit evasive.

I'm not getting married am I? I've wasted six years of my life, and his. And, just as importantly, it's the money thing.

Oh I didn't even know what I'm trying to say. I'm miserable and disappointed and am feeling very, very stupid.

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FermezLaBouche · 04/11/2012 22:26

If you need to cry, sob, bawl, snot, weep, etc then let yourself - after so long worrying and repressing your feelings for his sake you'll have a lot of emotions to get out.

But then tomorrow is a new start.

bessie26 · 04/11/2012 22:36

ooooohhhh well done! Kicking out the crap bf, being single & living by myself was the (sometimes scariest) & best thing I have ever done - enjoy!

ChasedByBees · 04/11/2012 22:37

I think being single for a while is a really important phase of life. It's good to know you can do it alone (and not just cope but have an amazing time). And you can do it! You've done the right thing. How did he respond?

tumbletumble · 04/11/2012 22:54

Well done Twll - I remember your previous thread and I think this guy was dragging you down - you are well shot of him. Stay strong!

B1ueberryJam · 04/11/2012 22:58

You're only 24? I thought you were about 35... You could afford to waste six years this time round. You've learnt a valuable lesson that many women haven't learnt (or had to learn) by the time they are 30+ You will be ok. You'll be better than ok. Little bit of empathy for other women's heartbreaks makes you a popular friend ime!

ImperialBlether · 04/11/2012 23:19

24 is a fantastic age! You should be having so much fun now. OP, stay on MN and let us chart your progress - make us jealous!

MarjorieAntrobus · 05/11/2012 00:11

Good call, OP. Well done! I remember your thread from the summer about the weekend away with your family down south, and your DP's teenage-style stroppiness in the lead up to it.

Onwards and upwards!

Shellywelly1973 · 05/11/2012 01:06

I spent 4years single(by choice) in my 20's... Best years of my life!

Its scary at times but you will get to know who YOU are.

Good luck,stay strong!

justbogoffnow · 05/11/2012 01:30

Really - don't put up with all this crap. There will be someone lovely out there who is right for you. This man isn't.

needsomeperspective · 05/11/2012 02:47

Hon, no one should be married at 24. Seriously.

Also I had a relationship very like this. Except I was 25 when I met him. All our friends got married one by one and he still didn't ask me. He knew how much I wanted to be married to him and he kept promising it would e soon. He insisted I use my mortgage to buy a 4 bedroom family home in France for the kids we would be having. I said no way unless we are married because if we split up I needed to Br able to buy a small apartment for myself in my home town. He swore up an down I had no need to worry and he would be proposing before the purchase was completed.

The deal took nearly 6 months to close. He finally proposed on the day we exchanged. And Even though I pretended to be ecstatic it was such an awful disappointment. You could just tell his heart wasn't in it.

Needless to say he insisted on a long engagement. I was 29 by this point and him 34.

Of course he ended up calling off the wedding - only 8 weeks before we were due to get married. He had never really wanted to marry me but felt obliged to do so because I loved him so much.

I was abandoned in the foreign country he had moved us to for his job and left to pay the mortgage on a huge family home I could never even visit because its thousands of miles away.

When someone seems reluctant to marry you there is a damn good reason for it. They aren't sure if they want to spend the rest of their life with you. And that can only end in misery.

When I met my now husband we were engaged in 6 months and married in 9. I didn't have to push him because he loved me and wanted to be with me always. That is how it works.

You are young and need to move on. Personally I would be horrified if one of my daughters wanted to marry at 24. I think it far too young. You ought to be out enjoying life and experiencing all those thins which you may not easily be able to do once you have a family. Travel. Make a lot of very good girlfriends.

The two years after I got jilted and before I met my DH were the best of my life. I was single, had plenty of cash, a good job because I worked on my career, tons of single working girlfriends to go out with and had an utter ball. I wouldn't change anything for the world.

You'll be fine hon. And next time remember, if he seems reluctant to marry just move on gracefully. And don't give the next guy six bloody years!

natsnuts · 05/11/2012 05:26

I hope you're feeling better in the morning trrl x

AgathaFusty · 05/11/2012 07:48

Look ahead to your bright future, meeting someone who wants what you want, and wants to make you happy - genuinely, not just paying lip service to it.

It's ok to feel sad for a while. You will grieve this relationship, you are still grieving the baby you lost. Take time to work through those feelings. Maybe consider getting some help to work through your self-esteem issues.

Ultimately though, you have done the right thing. This guy was a walking bag of contradictions, and power hungry to boot. Like someone said up thread, even if he had proposed and married you, he would have only flung it back in your face at every opportunity. At best he is immature, and at worst, well who knows. He certainly sounds flakey with money, and secretive. Not the best combination for a long term relationship.

marriedinwhite · 05/11/2012 07:56

Hey OP. Now let's look at some positives:

Young - tick
Free - tick
Bright - tick
Good career and prof quals - tick
pretty - probably very - tick
everything to live for - tick

the world is your oyster - enjoy it; explore it; throw yourself into teaching for a bit; plan some travel in your long summer holiday; don't look back and don't go back when he comes snivelling.

gettingeasier · 05/11/2012 08:17

Its odd I was stuck in a very unpleasant relationship at your age but because we had a mortgage I thought that was my life forever Hmm

Then at age 43 when my xh left me I felt and still do that I had my whole life ahead of me !

The wisdom of age maybe. Anyway you really do have your whole life ahead of you and well done to have the courage to end it with him.

Its really painful at the moment but its for your greater good

DontmindifIdo · 05/11/2012 09:15

You will be fine. This wasn't the right man for you, marrying the wrong man even for the right reasons doesn't work.

Now, your "to do" list, sort out somewhere new to live, can you ask round colleagues if anyone knows someone with a room to rent, even if it's just a stop gap to keep you going, then a personal loan to pay him back the money you owe from that loan and so you can unlink your finances. But most importantly, get all your girl friends together this weekend and book a drunken night out involving 'bad for you' food, far too much wine and boarderline agressive dancing.

Anniegetyourgun · 05/11/2012 09:20

If you've never been on your own it will take a bit of getting used to at first. No doubt you'll sometimes panic because you "can't possibly" go to this or that event without a partner, etc. But actually, you can. As they say, it's better to walk alone than badly accompanied. Ask Red Riding Hood.

Please don't be tempted to ask him back because he's familiar and you're lonely. Work on not being lonely, rediscovering female friends, going places your ex never wanted to. Enjoy being admired and chatted up even when you know it's not going anywhere. Then, once you are thoroughly comfortable with who you are and what makes you happy, it will be time to let someone into your life who really wants to be there and who would absolutely love to do the whole family thing with you. They do exist, in fact I'd go so far as to say they're fairly common. If you let Mr Misery worm his way back you'll be missing out on meeting them.

NotAnotherNewNappy · 05/11/2012 09:35

Well Done OP, true love shouldn't be such hard work!!

B1ueberryJam · 05/11/2012 17:02

Can I recommend a book called Bitches by Sherry Argov. It's NOT about game playing or rules or anything like that. It's about holding on to YOURSELF in a relationship, valuing yourself, and having the confidence to march to the beat of your own drum. I read it a while ago adn took a few useful things from it, even at my advanced age !

I can't tell you the value in having learnt the harsh lesson you've learnt so young. I had friends learing this lesson (and it's a tough one) aged 36+

Enjoy your twenties! I was single for most of my 20s as well. Halcyon days!

Funnylittleturkishdelight · 05/11/2012 18:49

Hey kiddo- how you feeling today?

Is school taking your mind off the break up?

I thought of a good distraction technique- plan a school trip! It was how I got over my marriage breaking up- took 30+ kids to Asia!

TwllBach · 05/11/2012 19:25

I was fine till I got home. Normally I leave school at ten to five to pick him up at five, but I stayed until half past, because I could. My class were brilliant, and I was so busy.

Then I came home and it was dark and cold and quiet and it's going to stay quiet, isn't it.

I understand its the right thing to do though.

That trip sounds amazing do you think I could persuade my head to let me take year four pupils to Russia? I'd love to go to Russia.

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ShipwreckedAndComatose · 05/11/2012 20:25

Put on some music and turn the lights up Smile

It's totally your place so you can have it any way you like.

He might have made it look like it was a warm and inviting place to be but, in reality, he was freezing you out of anything you truly wanted.

TwllBach · 05/11/2012 20:33

I am making fucking paper bunting to hang on my shelves in school. Do I go with school colours or a nice mix of colours??

The dog is looking mournful and the cat is looking smug. The cat and him never got on...

I am also listening to teh Dixie Chicks really loud because he hated them.

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RedCabbageNoIdea · 05/11/2012 20:36

Twll I've just read this whole thread in one go and want to congratulate you for being so brave. You have done the right thing and you know it, scary though it is. All change is scary, but this is such an empowering change that gives you the gift of being able to finally find out who you are, what you like, what you want to do, and to have the freedom to do all of those things.
I was single, after a 'serious' relationship ended in my late teens, from the age of 20 to 25 - that is to say I wasn't in a relationship, had lots of encounters etc Wink. The early years were characterised by low self esteem and because of that, the encounters were with dreadful blokes who fucked me about and treated me like shit. By the time I was 24 however, I got to the point where I realised I deserved so much better, and decided to simply enjoy being single and having fun with my mates. Lo and behold not only did I have loads of fun but I suddenly became incredibly attractive to all sorts of much nicer men! By the time I met my now DH when I was 25 I was having so much fun, living on my own in a funky little flat, with lots of friends nearby and complete freedom, that I was actually a bit cross and didn't want to give up my single life! I was quite literally having the time of my life, it was absolutely fantastic! The rest is history that I shan't bore you with but we have been married for 7 years and have two lovely DCs now, and I am sure that part of what's made me the happy person, wife and mum that I am now is having all those years getting to know myself and learning who I am. That's a gift you take with you all your life and its priceless.
I'm telling you all this because I have been pretty much where you are now and I want to give you the MN equivalent of a hug and a pat on the back to say 'chin up'! This is the start of an amazing new positive phase in your life, and you will look back on it as one of the most important things you ever did - and best of all you did it by yourself, for yourself, and deep down you know you deserve it.
Well done. You are brave and life will repay you for your bravery. Go out and have some fun, meet up with friends, arrange to travel, all those other things other posters have said. This is your life and you've finally given yourself permission to enjoy it.
And on a really practical note, if its too quiet at home, put the radio on in one room and the telly in another until you get used to your new situation. It won't take long. Silence is a blessing when you're no longer scared of it, as is freedom.
I wish you all the luck in the world, you have an amazing adventure in front of you! Grin

ShipwreckedAndComatose · 05/11/2012 20:39

Love the bunting!!! Definitely go with a jaunty mix!

I found school to be great therapy and distraction until my colleagues found out and then they kept giving me 'the look'...you know: head tilted on one side with that look of pity and concern!!!

ShipwreckedAndComatose · 05/11/2012 20:53

Do confide in friends and get their support, this is a time when friends really count!

But tell them to treat you normally around school Wink