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Concerned about attempted silencing/derailing of issues (via hunting/mocking)

999 replies

Halfway · 30/10/2012 16:25

I posted a thread in AIBU yesterday (perhaps foolishly), which thankfully did turn out to be very helpful, but also turned out to be extremely hurtful. And while overall, I gained a great deal of benefit/clarity/insight from it, I also spent a great deal of the day in tears and/or raging, and feeling generally crap about myself.

The post was about a friend, which led a lot of people to think I musn't be that emotionally invested, because it wasn't about me.

However, I was emotionally invested because I felt like I was watching my friend potentially walk into a very, very dangerous situation (which could end up in her hurt or even dead), and worse, I had the realisation that I could not stop her, but could only try to, and may very well fail.

In the context of that worry, these are the specific things I am complaining about:

a) sustained piss-taking/mocking (which not only humiliate/hurt me, but distracted and derailed the thread, with others jumping on board)

b) failure/refusal to stop the piss-taking/mocking when asked nicely to, and despite my making it clear that I was finding it painful

LET ME MAKE IT VERY CLEAR - I have nothing against genuine concerns, disagreements, and even disbelief of my thread, or specifics in my posts if these things are stated outright (not passive-aggressively buried in in-jokes), and if the posters simply make their position clear and report to MNHQ.

There is a valid need for this kind of watchdog activity, and I am in no way trying to stop that.

But the mocking, especially the sustained mocking by some posters, and 'ha ha' twisting of my dilemma into a funny joke conversation... well that hurt. That really hurt. And I've been seriously hurt in the past (raped, beaten to broken bones), so am no hand-wringing wallflower. It was triggering.

I think that behaviour is wrong, and I think it is going to hurt a lot more people other than me. Perhaps it is already hurting people who have severe issues of their own, and feel they cannot post because they will be laughed at.

Anyway, I'm concerned about it, deeply concerned, and still a bit disturbed myself (although much emotionally cooler).

I'm also not sure how this fits into "Relationships", so apologies if it seems weird here, but I seem to be inviting more suspicion by posting in AIBU, so here it is, and I'm grateful to anyone willing to listen.

OP posts:
SuePurblybilt · 31/10/2012 19:21

Leaves work much better than bums for making rubbings, though.

MaryZcary · 31/10/2012 19:23
ScarahStratton · 31/10/2012 19:24

Depends how proficient the wiper is imo.

IvorHughJackolantern · 31/10/2012 19:25
OTheEldritchManateesOfMadness · 31/10/2012 19:37

Ah c'mon guys, you can't let this degenerate into bum rubbings and Wine now. It was just getting fun again

SuePurblybilt · 31/10/2012 19:40

degenerate? We were raising the tone

OTheEldritchManateesOfMadness · 31/10/2012 19:42

I wouldn't sniff too close to that there bum rubbing if I were you.

OliviaMumsnet · 31/10/2012 19:49

[hhmm]

MaryZcary · 31/10/2012 19:51

Ollllllllliiiiiiiiiivvvvvvviiiiiiiaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Welcome. Happy (belated) birthday. We have treats for you Smile Grin Gin [cupcake] Thanks

SuePurblybilt · 31/10/2012 19:52

Happy Birthday Olivia. It's all been going swimmingly in your absence.

ScarahStratton · 31/10/2012 19:55

Happy Birthday for yesterday, Olivia ChocolateGinGinGinThanks

Draw up a pew, and come and tell us about your rubbings. Arf [hgrin]

OTheEldritchManateesOfMadness · 31/10/2012 19:55

Is that a bum rubbing sniff face, Olivia? [hgrin]

SugariceAndScary · 31/10/2012 19:56

Do we lose the [hsmile] [hgrin][hwink][hshock][hhmm][hconfused][hblush][hangry][hsad][henvy][hbiscuit] after tonight.

SugariceAndScary · 31/10/2012 19:56

ooh and happy birthday Olivia [hwink]

ScarahStratton · 31/10/2012 19:59

I think so Sugar, we do get the Christmas ones soon, though.

MaryZcary · 31/10/2012 20:01

No.

No.

Olivia we don't get Christmas ones until December 1st, do we [hopeful]

SuePurblybilt · 31/10/2012 20:02

Don't let the HumBuggers grind you Olivia, we need Christmas Ones soon. I am putting on my Christmas name too. Both of them.

SugariceAndScary · 31/10/2012 20:03

Bugger, I like the hats! [hgrin]

OliviaMumsnet · 31/10/2012 20:03

God no, DEFINITELY no christmas ones until December.

amillionyears · 31/10/2012 20:04

www.thefreedictionary.com/unregulated

MaryZcary · 31/10/2012 20:04

Whew, thank you Olivia.

I was really worried there.

Maybe we should have something Thanksgiving-y to bridge the gap a bit.

I will start a thread.

SugariceAndScary · 31/10/2012 20:05

Yes Christmas names Grin, when are you starting yours SuePurb

amillionyears · 31/10/2012 20:05

Wasnt aware I had posted the above.
Was just geting it ready for tomorrow.

Happy birthday for yesterday, Olivia

SuePurblybilt · 31/10/2012 20:07

I dunno Sugarice. I have one that is not Sue and that always worries me. And I have the Sue one I always use. I could flit between the two, but it could all get socky and horrid.
Maybe I'll do the non Sue one and keep my hovererererer.

ScarahStratton · 31/10/2012 20:10

I'd quite like little Puritans and Indians for Thanksgiving. We could keep the Halloween ones for the Puritans, and have little feather headdresses for the Indians.

Oh and a nice big fat turkey one. That one would be useful all year round though.