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Concerned about attempted silencing/derailing of issues (via hunting/mocking)

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Halfway · 30/10/2012 16:25

I posted a thread in AIBU yesterday (perhaps foolishly), which thankfully did turn out to be very helpful, but also turned out to be extremely hurtful. And while overall, I gained a great deal of benefit/clarity/insight from it, I also spent a great deal of the day in tears and/or raging, and feeling generally crap about myself.

The post was about a friend, which led a lot of people to think I musn't be that emotionally invested, because it wasn't about me.

However, I was emotionally invested because I felt like I was watching my friend potentially walk into a very, very dangerous situation (which could end up in her hurt or even dead), and worse, I had the realisation that I could not stop her, but could only try to, and may very well fail.

In the context of that worry, these are the specific things I am complaining about:

a) sustained piss-taking/mocking (which not only humiliate/hurt me, but distracted and derailed the thread, with others jumping on board)

b) failure/refusal to stop the piss-taking/mocking when asked nicely to, and despite my making it clear that I was finding it painful

LET ME MAKE IT VERY CLEAR - I have nothing against genuine concerns, disagreements, and even disbelief of my thread, or specifics in my posts if these things are stated outright (not passive-aggressively buried in in-jokes), and if the posters simply make their position clear and report to MNHQ.

There is a valid need for this kind of watchdog activity, and I am in no way trying to stop that.

But the mocking, especially the sustained mocking by some posters, and 'ha ha' twisting of my dilemma into a funny joke conversation... well that hurt. That really hurt. And I've been seriously hurt in the past (raped, beaten to broken bones), so am no hand-wringing wallflower. It was triggering.

I think that behaviour is wrong, and I think it is going to hurt a lot more people other than me. Perhaps it is already hurting people who have severe issues of their own, and feel they cannot post because they will be laughed at.

Anyway, I'm concerned about it, deeply concerned, and still a bit disturbed myself (although much emotionally cooler).

I'm also not sure how this fits into "Relationships", so apologies if it seems weird here, but I seem to be inviting more suspicion by posting in AIBU, so here it is, and I'm grateful to anyone willing to listen.

OP posts:
Strawhatpirate · 31/10/2012 19:03

Mundane is a bit like vanilla. Its a term that people with unusual tastes lifestyles etc use describe the mainstream. Or at least that is my understanding of it.

IvorHughJackolantern · 31/10/2012 19:04

Of course Ed isn't a troll. Or a sockpuppet. Or any of that rubbish.

Bullying is different to piss-taking. Piss-taking is different to troll-hunting.

Maryz and Purbles aren't mundane.

Sarah has a nice butter dish.

Halfway's friend isn't going to let her boyfriend eat her.

I still haven't answered question 5 of my application form Sad

And this thread is stupid.

MaryZcary · 31/10/2012 19:05

Thanks, Straw.

Like, maybe, to describe people who don't eat each other as part of sex? Maybe [hgrin]

SuePurblybilt · 31/10/2012 19:05

Though SGB applies it to people with cars Grin. Which is rather sweeping.
I don't mind being vanilla. Embrace the Bean.

RubyCreakingGates · 31/10/2012 19:05

It's also what historical re-enactors call people in street clothes.

MaryZcary · 31/10/2012 19:05

I agree with Ivor (and think she has a rather lufferly name).

IvorHughJackolantern · 31/10/2012 19:05

Oh, ta Straw. Maybe Maryz and Purbles are mundane then Confused let's not go there

SuePurblybilt · 31/10/2012 19:05

What is the job Ivor? Let us answer Q5.

IvorHughJackolantern · 31/10/2012 19:06

Didn't win the contest though

amillionyears · 31/10/2012 19:06

I am beginning to feel uneasy about this site.

MaryZcary · 31/10/2012 19:08

Oh, yes

Give us Question 5. And answer a question for me:

My children are scattered at various Hallowe'en events. Should I

(a) open the Wine and stay here
(b) tell dh he is on taxi/hospital/police station pickup duty
(c) forget about them
(d) all of the above
or
(e) have a cup of tea and go and drive around collecting them at various times between now and midnight.

Answers on a postcard, please.

ScarahStratton · 31/10/2012 19:08

Yes, MaryZ is right, it is entirely possible. Which means it is actually now as impossible to prove someone is a troll as isn't. You simply can't tell for certain if someone is also another poster any more, by virtue of technology.

Ed that is in no way aimed at you, just in case you're worried, it really is simply answering poor old Purbles.

amillionyears · 31/10/2012 19:08

It is up to people whether they heed warnings in life.
It is up to people whether they shoot the messenger.

IvorHughJackolantern · 31/10/2012 19:09

Thanks Sue, it's 'Give an example of using your initiative in helping solve a problem'

I think the fact that I can't think of one means that i) I don't have any initiative and/or ii) If I do have some, I've never used it to solve a problem.

Trouble is I really don't want the job. It sounds horrible, the money is crap and when I rang for further info the woman on the end of the phone was rude and patronising.

I am doing massive sighs

mutny · 31/10/2012 19:09

I don't get why the OP is upset at the thread being locked and feels she was silenced. But would have been perfectly happy for the thread to have been deleted?

SuePurblybilt · 31/10/2012 19:09

(e) Maryzed. But barter it for something good.

IvorHughJackolantern · 31/10/2012 19:10

(d) Maryz, definitely.

SuePurblybilt · 31/10/2012 19:11

Q5) I have a problem currently as I have no work. Using my initiative, I decided to apply for this job. Do lets crack on?
Love from Ivor.

SugariceAndScary · 31/10/2012 19:14

maryZ definitely b.

ScarahStratton · 31/10/2012 19:14

No, no, owning a car isn't mundane. Shagging in a car is.

Unless you're dogging I suppose? [hhmm]

MaryZcary · 31/10/2012 19:14

Sue Shock. How could you Shock.

Ivor, make one up. For example (office job) - the phone lines are down so you used your mobile. Or the photocopier went tits up so you went to the local shop. Surgeon - your patient had the wrong leg to be lopped off marked with blue marker so you woke him up to check whether he really wanted his left or right leg removed.

You know, sensible, made up shite. Like all application forms.

MaryZcary · 31/10/2012 19:15

Thankyou Ivor. And Sugar.

ScarahStratton · 31/10/2012 19:17

I vote d).

Ivor, you ran out of tracing paper so you used loo roll. Or you ran out of loo roll so you used leaves. Obviously, leaves wouldn't work for tracing, so don't muddle the two.

IvorHughJackolantern · 31/10/2012 19:18

Thank you both Grin I'll get there...

It doesn't close until after an interview I've been offered for a job I actually want so I may just place it on the 'If I have to' pile

IvorHughJackolantern · 31/10/2012 19:20

Or, '....so I used this application form. Soz' Wink

(With the winky face, so they can see that I'm fun loving and ditzy and just generally-fun-to-be-around, every-office-needs-one)