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Concerned about attempted silencing/derailing of issues (via hunting/mocking)

999 replies

Halfway · 30/10/2012 16:25

I posted a thread in AIBU yesterday (perhaps foolishly), which thankfully did turn out to be very helpful, but also turned out to be extremely hurtful. And while overall, I gained a great deal of benefit/clarity/insight from it, I also spent a great deal of the day in tears and/or raging, and feeling generally crap about myself.

The post was about a friend, which led a lot of people to think I musn't be that emotionally invested, because it wasn't about me.

However, I was emotionally invested because I felt like I was watching my friend potentially walk into a very, very dangerous situation (which could end up in her hurt or even dead), and worse, I had the realisation that I could not stop her, but could only try to, and may very well fail.

In the context of that worry, these are the specific things I am complaining about:

a) sustained piss-taking/mocking (which not only humiliate/hurt me, but distracted and derailed the thread, with others jumping on board)

b) failure/refusal to stop the piss-taking/mocking when asked nicely to, and despite my making it clear that I was finding it painful

LET ME MAKE IT VERY CLEAR - I have nothing against genuine concerns, disagreements, and even disbelief of my thread, or specifics in my posts if these things are stated outright (not passive-aggressively buried in in-jokes), and if the posters simply make their position clear and report to MNHQ.

There is a valid need for this kind of watchdog activity, and I am in no way trying to stop that.

But the mocking, especially the sustained mocking by some posters, and 'ha ha' twisting of my dilemma into a funny joke conversation... well that hurt. That really hurt. And I've been seriously hurt in the past (raped, beaten to broken bones), so am no hand-wringing wallflower. It was triggering.

I think that behaviour is wrong, and I think it is going to hurt a lot more people other than me. Perhaps it is already hurting people who have severe issues of their own, and feel they cannot post because they will be laughed at.

Anyway, I'm concerned about it, deeply concerned, and still a bit disturbed myself (although much emotionally cooler).

I'm also not sure how this fits into "Relationships", so apologies if it seems weird here, but I seem to be inviting more suspicion by posting in AIBU, so here it is, and I'm grateful to anyone willing to listen.

OP posts:
IvorHughJackolantern · 31/10/2012 16:08

Love that MNHQ get here when the whole thing has eaten itself burnt itself out and we're swapping brownie recipes Grin

(sorry mate, they're all I have at the mo Blush )

ScarahStratton · 31/10/2012 16:09

Mmm s'reallyreallygoodmm

HelenMumsnet · 31/10/2012 16:09

@IvorHughJackolantern

Love that MNHQ get here when the whole thing has eaten itself burnt itself out and we're swapping brownie recipes Grin

(sorry mate, they're all I have at the mo Blush )

Thank you (I think). And I know: always late to the party, eh?

ginhaghasaheadinherbag · 31/10/2012 16:09

Costco sell bleedin' HUGE BOXES of amazing brownie mix. Is very easy to pass them off as home made. Unless you are me in which case no one would believe you for a second.

Hope DD is ok SS?

zillyzilly · 31/10/2012 16:10

How about a "Hide Bully" button, HelenMumsnet? If bullies were hidden by the majority of posters, they would get less of a thrill.

ScarahStratton · 31/10/2012 16:10

That's the one Ivor. Just sorting out a photo for you.

IvorHughJackolantern · 31/10/2012 16:10

Sugar that's like Cake Porn or something

HelenMumsnet · 31/10/2012 16:11

@zillyzilly

How about a "Hide Bully" button, HelenMumsnet? If bullies were hidden by the majority of posters, they would get less of a thrill.

Ha!

But I dunno. Think they might regard it as a bit of a badge of honour, no?

ginhaghasaheadinherbag · 31/10/2012 16:11
zillyzilly · 31/10/2012 16:11

Well, you do run the site. Either bullying is ok with you, or it isn't.

ScarahStratton · 31/10/2012 16:12

How's about a 'Blow up the sockpuppet' button too. I'd really like one of those.

And yes, I have reported. Aaaaaaaaaaages ago. Unfortunately, I guess it's pretty much impossible to tell, now that it's so easy to post from a desktop/laptop and a smartphone at the same time. I know, I tried it last night. I could be ScarahStratton on my laptop, and SarahStratton on my phone. I'd have been able to post simultaneously.

MaryZcary · 31/10/2012 16:13

I have a major problem cooking with cookie dough.

It gets eaten while the oven is "warming up".

HelenMumsnet · 31/10/2012 16:13

@zillyzilly

Well, you do run the site. Either bullying is ok with you, or it isn't.

It absolutely isn't. Obviously. Sorry: didn't realise your suggestion was serious Blush

If someone is bullying, the most important thing is that they're reported to us. We can't do anything about it if you just hide them instead.

IvorHughJackolantern · 31/10/2012 16:14

That's not a good sockpuppet name, Sarah/Scarah. We'd have known it was you.

Cos of the Stratton on the end. Dead giveaway.

LadyEvilBeagle · 31/10/2012 16:14

Depend what you constitute as bullying zilly.
That's what half the discussion on this thread has been about.
What you may see as bullying, others see as a bit of banter.
And if we can't banter and joke around, I'll leave MN to the pos thank you very much.

Whooooosualsuspect · 31/10/2012 16:15

How about a hide the poster who NC just for threads like these button?

zillyzilly · 31/10/2012 16:15

As well as clearly stating when someone who has been accused of being a troll is not one, as in the case of the OP, I think MNHQ should also clearly state when someone who has been accused of sockpuppeting has not been doing so.
There are plenty of sockpuppeting allegations on this thread; I doubt that any of them have any truth.

MaryZcary · 31/10/2012 16:16

How's the hangover, Helen?

You know, the one left over from Olivia's birthday party (to which my invite seems to have been mysteriously mislaid Shock).

I hope you are all awake and on the ball for tonight, it being Hallowe'en and all [hwink]

zillyzilly · 31/10/2012 16:16

HelenMumsnet, I do think bullying is a very serious matter.

This is a parenting site.

MaryZcary · 31/10/2012 16:17

zilly, what is your opinion on trolls and sockpuppets, just as a matter of interest? Do they add to the site?

I'd also like to point out that I reported this thread numerous times, and have done since the time of my very first post.

So mnhq's party yesterday must have been a looooooong one [hgrin]

HelenMumsnet · 31/10/2012 16:18

@zillyzilly

HelenMumsnet, I do think bullying is a very serious matter.

This is a parenting site.

So do we, zillyzilly. Hope we've never given the impression otherwise.

ScarahStratton · 31/10/2012 16:18

Slutty Brownie photo now available for drooling viewing.

[hgrin]

HelenMumsnet · 31/10/2012 16:18

@MaryZcary

How's the hangover, Helen?

You know, the one left over from Olivia's birthday party (to which my invite seems to have been mysteriously mislaid Shock).

I hope you are all awake and on the ball for tonight, it being Hallowe'en and all [hwink]

Ha! We're leaving Hallowe'en to Olivia. Obvs.

zillyzilly · 31/10/2012 16:19

I think you need to read this kind of thread and make a judgement about what is acceptable to you - as owners of the site - and what is not.

LadyEvilBeagle · 31/10/2012 16:19

Mn can't prove the OP was a troll. Different thing.

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