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Hollow laugh from the OW

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Dandythelion · 21/10/2012 21:22

I was the OW. As well as sweeping me off my naive feet into a 50 shades type sexual thrall, he convinced me that the marriage was dead, he'd hated her for years, he only stayed because he felt sorry she was going bald (!), they only had pity sex, she was horribly unstable and always threatening suicide, was a total hypochondriac, terrible mother, educationally bereft, emotionally subnormal and socially inept.

He made me feel absolutely beautiful and special and I couldn't do without it, nobody can make you feel better than an emotionally abusive man, it's almost an art form. They get inside your head and worm out your deepest dreams and promise to make them all come true. Then he makes them almost come true, but just dangles perfection out of reach.

You'll go mad trying to get there and you won't have the sense you were born with, the madness takes you over and morality won't enter it because you want to believe the fantasy more than you will listen to friends, family, conscience.

For all the wives who've been left by this type, sleep a little better knowing that less than two years on, the beautiful clever perfect wam they left you for discovers he's pulling the same stunt on new woman, and suddenly it's easy to see why the mental health issues arose.

Don't waste time begging him to come back, he has a cock where a heart should be and doesn't say a word that hasn't been carefully chosen to get exactly what he wants.

Thought it might give a wry smile tp those who have been there.

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Bogeyface · 21/10/2012 21:54

he chose and groomed sp carefully that I really didn't think 'no' was an option

Or you need to believe that because if you dont then you have to accept that you were selfish enough to have an affair with a married just because you wanted to. If you can convince yourself that he "groomed" you then you can put most of the blame onto him, when in reality, you did have a choice.

Dandythelion · 21/10/2012 21:55

Happy 'until he dumped' me? no, until one of the remaining friends I had marched me double quick into a year of very intensive therapy. Only then, away from him, could I reflect on what I did. At the time, I'd probably have jumped in boiling oil for him.

No, not looking for any sympathy at all, just putting across my experience.

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Bogeyface · 21/10/2012 21:56

on ipad, with random deletions for some reason!

Is that true or do you need to believe that.........an affair with a married man.

Bogeyface · 21/10/2012 21:58

And if your therapy has focussed on you shifting the guilt from you to him (was it CBT?) then you need more therapy as you havent resolved the issue that made you think it was ok in the first place. If you believe that he groomed you then you are still vulnerable to being the other woman if you convince yourself that the next one is actually your soul mate.

waltermittymissus · 21/10/2012 21:59

No, not looking for any sympathy at all, just putting across my experience.

Yes, but why? You should know you could hurt a lot of people by this. There are women here who don't need people trying to make them feel sorry for the OW!

SanctuaryMoon · 21/10/2012 22:00

I think you are brave to post this here. I think we all agree that what you did was pretty low. Do i think this means you deserve all the misery in the world? No, I don't think so.

Bogeyface · 21/10/2012 22:01

There are women here who don't need people trying to make them feel sorry for the OW!

or making it crystal clear what our H's said about us to their OW, when we have suspected but dont really want to think about :(

RecklessRat · 21/10/2012 22:03

"the beautiful, clever, perfect wam they left you for"

Is that you? So i guess he didnt have to make much effort to convince you that you were "absolutely beautiful"......

You're just pissed off he left you. Serves you right.

Dandythelion · 21/10/2012 22:04

Bogey, absolutely fair point and I sit here now agreeing with you totally, thinking ffs woman, you could easily have said no. But no, I was certain it was fate, I believed that completely.

Walter, I wasn't that sexually experienced but I have learned that sadly, quite a lot of what he did was probably, technically, rape. Because he loved me so much he couldn't help himself. I genuinely knew no better.

Certainly she and I have both moved on or I wouldn't be able to see any of this from a more healthy perspective. And yes, he left her and she remarried recently I believe.

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usualsuspect3 · 21/10/2012 22:05

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ledkr · 21/10/2012 22:05

You were with someone who cast aside his next of kin to be with you and then he cheated on you too?
Fucking hell that's incredible!

waltermittymissus · 21/10/2012 22:07

Walter, I wasn't that sexually experienced but I have learned that sadly, quite a lot of what he did was probably, technically, rape. Because he loved me so much he couldn't help himself. I genuinely knew no better.

This is very disturbing OP. have you spoke to someone in rl about it? If not, perhaps you should.

No matter what you've done, you do NOT under any circumstances deserve to be assaulted.

AThingInYourLife · 21/10/2012 22:08

What Reckless said

ATourchOfInsanity · 21/10/2012 22:10

Unless you married the git then you have no real comparison to the DW.
Maybe if you end up married and they do the same to you then you will have a true idea of what she was going through.
Sorry to be blunt but no one likes a home breaker.

Viviennemary · 21/10/2012 22:10

Pity sex. I must say I haven't heard that one before. I must have led a sheltered life. A 50 shades type of sexual thrall. So it was a nightmare then.

Dandythelion · 21/10/2012 22:12

Rat. No, I left him. You're right, it didn't take much to convince me of anything at that time.

Walter, I'm genuinely not trying to hurt anyone. That wasn't my intention and I am truly sorry if I have done so. If anything, I was motivated by readi g all the women wondering 'why, why' when they thought things were perfect. That there are some men who will say absolutely anything, and so the question will never be answered.

Regarding 'it's not EA' I'm afraid that yes it was. Very much so and a fair bit more besides.

I'm certainly not pissed off. I'm sad and regretful and really grateful for sime excellent (yes, parts were CBT) therapy.

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Dandythelion · 21/10/2012 22:15

Ledkr, yes isn't it?

Walter, the therapy addressed that, thank you.

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Dandythelion · 21/10/2012 22:16

Insanity, we were together longer that they were married. Not an achievement I'm proud of.

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RyleDup · 21/10/2012 22:17

Op, do you mind if I ask how old you are?

ProphetOfDoom · 21/10/2012 22:18

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CelineMcBean · 21/10/2012 22:19
GobblersKnob · 21/10/2012 22:20

Why do people come down so hard on the OW?

If the OW is single she is free to shag who she likes. As far as I am concerned all the blame should lie with the man who is married and couldn't keep his cock in his trousers.

I have been cheated on and felt only pity for the OW, who had been fucked over as much as I as far as I was concerned.

usualsuspect3 · 21/10/2012 22:21

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RyleDup · 21/10/2012 22:24

I would come down harder on the man that cheated. But why the OW would want to tangle herself in a threesome of anger and distrust I do not know. Far better to just find someone who is actually available.

ginhag · 21/10/2012 22:27

'groomed'? Is that not taking it a bit far?